Skyrim Weight Inaccuracies
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First, welcome to the Escapist.Trevor Thomas said:
Second, it isn't the WORST argument ever. I mean, you could say that... that...
... Hm. You know, I guess it is. Oh well.
So, yeah, OP. Balance. That's really all it is. Balance.
On the list of things to complain about being innacurate in a fantasy game, I would think "the items don't weigh the correct amount" would be just below "magical TARDIS pockets" and very far below "there are fucking dragons".
If you get hung up on item weight in Skyrim then... just wow.
If you get hung up on item weight in Skyrim then... just wow.
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The fact that you can carry around 3 sets of armor, 12 diffrent swords, 2 daggers, a bow and arrows, and giant war hammer, enough food to feed the whole province of Skyrim, 32 books, a whole bunch of dragon bones and scales, and various animal hides and you complained about the WEIGHT? Not the fact that your character can carry all that in the first place? Or the fact that he can carry 300 pounds without even being slightly slowed down? And besides it would break the game and ruin it and really? is this even.. are we being trolled?
The fact that you can carry around 3 sets of armor, 12 diffrent swords, 2 daggers, a bow and arrows, and giant war hammer, enough food to feed the whole province of Skyrim, 32 books, a whole bunch of dragon bones and scales, and various animal hides and you complained about the WEIGHT? Not the fact that your character can carry all that in the first place? Or the fact that he can carry 300 pounds without even being slightly slowed down? And besides it would break the game and ruin it and really? is this even.. are we being trolled?
If they made Leather Armor weight so much, A heavy armor set would prevent you from carrying anything.
And if they made the difference in weight smaller, there would be no real reason to pick light armor over heavy.
I would say a balance reason.
And if they made the difference in weight smaller, there would be no real reason to pick light armor over heavy.
I would say a balance reason.
I don't think "skyrim weight" is mere weight, but possibly also the issue of size and awkwardness. But either way it's inaccurate simply because of the amount of crap you can carry.
have you ever sat down and read the PHB? 3.5 or 4E?spartan231490 said:
4E tosses a simple formula for how much you can carry. STR * 10. up to that there's no difference between 1lb. and 150lbs. (assuming a STR of at least 15). source: 4E Players Hand Book, page 222, under "Carrying, Lifting and Dragging".
and here's a link to the 3.5 rules on carrying shitte http://www.d20srd.org/srd/carryingCapacity.htm
and weapons http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm#weaponDescriptions
armor! http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/armor.htm#armorDescriptions
WotC does a fair job of keeping the mundane bits of the game fairly well grounded in reality
...and yes, i looked up the 4E bit in a book that i own and i would have done the same for the 3.5 bits but i can't find those books :'-(
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Edit: back on topic, Dude has a freaking Bag of Holding.
I know, right? It totally ripped me out of the game.Skratt said:Yes it does and you are completely correct in feeling that way. It is however a math problem related to game mechanics. Sorry.
Well possibly they simply just guessed weights but it was probably because they didn't want someone being able to carry around like 30 swords. I like to think of it this way, is it easier to carry around a giant sword or wear leather? The armor is on your body and effects what you can carry less. Look at it this way, as opposed it it being a weight limit, think of it as a holding and storing limit, certain things are easier to hold onto or store and other things are harder, just consider the weight to be "ability to be carried". Or don't worry about it honestly.
Because this is fairy land where 300 skyrim weight worth of junk can be hidden invisibly upon your person no matter it's proportion anyway.
Ever get overburdened just by turning the hides you're carrying into leather? More weight from losing it... Another puzzler.
Honestly I don't think they COULD have balanced it, just guessed and let fly.
Ever get overburdened just by turning the hides you're carrying into leather? More weight from losing it... Another puzzler.
Honestly I don't think they COULD have balanced it, just guessed and let fly.
OK, so you call bullshit on the one thing that might explain why, but doesn't give a good reason why you're calling bullshit on it, then say you cannot see a good reason for it, even though you just cited it and called bullshit on it for no good reason.craftomega said:
I... what.
Well I think you've put a lot of thought into this - go find/make a mod to make everything more weight accurate. I mean start small, fix all the swords would be the first one, there are several, and they all have different materials and you'd have to calculate their weight based on relative density to other items... it seems like just cut all the items weight in half... but check into that, there's still iron and silver and gold which all must be accurate too.craftomega said:
I think they either don't care, or they wanted it to be challening... idk, I think its fine.
I have decided that the weight values are not in Lbs. They must be in arbitrary units, and they factor in lots of fudge factors.
You can't carry 300 lbs of stuff around and run from one place to another. 100 lbs is believable, which puts the longsword at a more appropriate weight value.
Gold ingots should weight a fucking shitload, for instance. But they don't, because it would be too annoying.
Im considering modding to remove all weight from ingredients. You don't gain direct battle benefit from having them or not, and its really annoying to put them away and sort them.
Another mod I would like would be to allow the alchemy table to have a container on it, into which you can place all your ingredients and those are considered "in your posession".
Same for all crafting in the game.
You can't carry 300 lbs of stuff around and run from one place to another. 100 lbs is believable, which puts the longsword at a more appropriate weight value.
Gold ingots should weight a fucking shitload, for instance. But they don't, because it would be too annoying.
Im considering modding to remove all weight from ingredients. You don't gain direct battle benefit from having them or not, and its really annoying to put them away and sort them.
Another mod I would like would be to allow the alchemy table to have a container on it, into which you can place all your ingredients and those are considered "in your posession".
Same for all crafting in the game.
Here is the most neutral reason why.
Weight is a force that is determined by mass time the force of gravity [W=m*g]. Mass remains constant anywhere in the universe, but the force of gravity is dependent of the equation of Newton's universal law of gravity.
Which is
F(of gravity) = [G(this a universal constant)*mass(of the planet)]/[radius^2]
or g= Gm/r^2
So this means that the the force of gravity can vary depending on the mass or radius of the planet.
I do not know the mass of Nirn (but that could be figured out by finding the acceleration of free falling objects in Skyrim) but as you can see in this picture at the bottom of the page http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Nirn
that Nirn has a different radius, therefore its force of gravity is different, therefore objects can weigh differently as they would on Earth.
That is all I have for you. Hope it helps.
Weight is a force that is determined by mass time the force of gravity [W=m*g]. Mass remains constant anywhere in the universe, but the force of gravity is dependent of the equation of Newton's universal law of gravity.
Which is
F(of gravity) = [G(this a universal constant)*mass(of the planet)]/[radius^2]
or g= Gm/r^2
So this means that the the force of gravity can vary depending on the mass or radius of the planet.
I do not know the mass of Nirn (but that could be figured out by finding the acceleration of free falling objects in Skyrim) but as you can see in this picture at the bottom of the page http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Nirn
that Nirn has a different radius, therefore its force of gravity is different, therefore objects can weigh differently as they would on Earth.
That is all I have for you. Hope it helps.
you know what, that makes a lot of sense. if you are wearing amour, it is probably easier to carry than that long sword on your back because of all the muscle groups involved in carrying it. That's a damn good theoryIrisEver said: