Smacking Your Child.

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Children. Are they being treated more softly today than, let's say, 20/30/40 years ago? With the UN warning the UK about our smacking laws, the debate goes on and will still go on about smacking a child and any kind of harm to a child.

There are actually millions of question to pose here and all to talk about so let's all discuss. For those who are parents, what are your thoughts on smacking. No, not that awkward TV show that came on last year (let us never remember that). Do you think smacking is unneeded in today's world? Do you think there isn't enough of it? Does our memories of yourself being hit by your parent stopped you from doing the same to your kids? Should the UN butt out? Do some who hits their kids, do it out of frustration and anger? Lack of education maybe?

Your thoughts on the matter please.
 

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Totally unnecessary in my eyes. It isn't legal here to smack an adult, or even a pet dog, so why should it be legal to do so to a small child? What people need to remember is that absence of smacking doesn't have to be an absence of discipline, taking away privileges is just as effective a deterrent and doesn't teach a child that it's okay to be violent towards a small being dependent on you. Social studies are always contentious of course but the evidence seems to suggest that even after controlling for confounding factors such as natural aggression and socio-economic background, smacked children are more likely to become aggressive as they grow older than those disciplined in other ways. [footnote]http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1983895,00.html[/footnote]
 

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I'm pretty against the idea. My dad used to smack me- nothing serious, but he would give me a pretty hard smack around the head if I was being a complete pain. If stopping your kid from acting out is your aim, then yes, it definitely works although I think it was unnecessary.

Whilst I don't think it taught me that violence was ok or any bollocks like that, I would say it probably damaged my relationship with my dad long-term. There are a few other major reasons as to why I don't have an especially close relationship with my dad (I'm keen to stress that these aren't his fault), but it played a part in me distancing myself from him as I grew up. That's probably the saddest thing about physical punishment, it really damages the way your kid views you. Personally I would hate to think of my own hypothetical children seeing me as a figure to fear.
 

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Spanking, yes to a degee (I was a wild child when I was little so I did get spank by my mum alo to the point that I eventualled behave) but I won't used that practive on my own child if I became a father but actual smacking (as in hitting the child) is a complete no!
 

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Nah, Id' rather not. I'm not saying it'll give your kid Gigantic Mental Scars necessarily, but there's two things that bug me about it.

1. Hitting full-grown adults isn't okay, so it shouldn't be okay on a little kid.

2. A kid that only behaves if punished corporally has deeper problems that you need to solve.
 

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JoJo said:
Totally unnecessary in my eyes. It isn't legal here to smack an adult, or even a pet dog, so why should it be legal to do so to a small child? What people need to remember is that absence of smacking doesn't have to be an absence of discipline, taking away privileges is just as effective a deterrent and doesn't teach a child that it's okay to be violent towards a small being dependent on you. Social studies are always contentious of course but the evidence seems to suggest that even after controlling for confounding factors such as natural aggression and socio-economic background, smacked children are more likely to become aggressive as they grow older than those disciplined in other ways. [footnote]http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1983895,00.html[/footnote]
Queen Michael said:
Nah, Id' rather not. I'm not saying it'll give your kid Gigantic Mental Scars necessarily, but there's two things that bug me about it.

1. Hitting full-grown adults isn't okay, so it shouldn't be okay on a little kid.

2. A kid that only behaves if punished corporally has deeper problems that you need to solve.
I agree. Especially about the not hitting adults bit. I do wonder where this idea of "No smacking = no discipline" comes from.

...Now that I think about it, would a light tap count as smacking a child? Like, do you think it matters if they're hurt or not from the action as long as it's physical contact? I was thinking that the definition of hitting might vary from person to person, and some people might not even consider a light tap OK.

Not that I think I'd treat any of my kids that way, I was just thinking...
 

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If smacking your child is a vital part of raising your child, you're likely a very shite parent.

A smack and a slap when warranted is not a disaster, though. It won't ruin a child and it won't raise a child. Simple as.
 

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Depends on what circumstances and how hard. I'm not totality against smacking but it shouldn't be the default for punishments, it should always be just an open hand and you shouldn't do it if you're the type who rages.
I'm not going to judge a parent if their kid tries to run ahead across the road and they pull them back and smack them.
 

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JoJo said:
Totally unnecessary in my eyes. It isn't legal here to smack an adult, or even a pet dog, so why should it be legal to do so to a small child? What people need to remember is that absence of smacking doesn't have to be an absence of discipline, taking away privileges is just as effective a deterrent and doesn't teach a child that it's okay to be violent towards a small being dependent on you. Social studies are always contentious of course but the evidence seems to suggest that even after controlling for confounding factors such as natural aggression and socio-economic background, smacked children are more likely to become aggressive as they grow older than those disciplined in other ways. [footnote]http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1983895,00.html[/footnote]
Queen Michael said:
Nah, Id' rather not. I'm not saying it'll give your kid Gigantic Mental Scars necessarily, but there's two things that bug me about it.

1. Hitting full-grown adults isn't okay, so it shouldn't be okay on a little kid.

2. A kid that only behaves if punished corporally has deeper problems that you need to solve.
I agree. Especially about the not hitting adults bit. I do wonder where this idea of "No smacking = no discipline" comes from.

...Now that I think about it, would a light tap count as smacking a child? Like, do you think it matters if they're hurt or not from the action as long as it's physical contact? I was thinking that the definition of hitting might vary from person to person, and some people might not even consider a light tap OK.

Not that I think I'd treat any of my kids that way, I was just thinking...
 

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Smacking your child is an excellent form of stress release and the appropriate reaction to their misbehavior/stubbing your toe/disapproval of a TV program's storyline/whenever you feel like it.

I kid of course; I'm not a parent myself but I was smacked occasionally as a youth whenever I did something incredibly stupid and harmful to myself, and I turned out fine. Not to suggest I was beaten mercilessly into terrified obedience, but sometimes a firm smack is necessary for the child's benefit.
 

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Twintix said:
...Now that I think about it, would a light tap count as smacking a child? Like, do you think it matters if they're hurt or not from the action as long as it's physical contact? I was thinking that the definition of hitting might vary from person to person, and some people might not even consider a light tap OK.

Not that I think I'd treat any of my kids that way, I was just thinking...
By UN's definition, a light tap would still count as smacking. Here in the UK, it's mostly, you can smack but you can't leave a mark (sounds like a light tap, right?), but for the UN, that's a full no no.
 

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I got smacked when I was a kid. Having said that, I'm told that when I was young; it didn't deter me from behaving any better so clearly I wasn't phased by it but it did the trick when I got older for some reason.

I think I'd find it hard to do it to my own hypothetical kid. I know there are other ways to discipline your child so I'd likely want to do my homework on what those are to try & avoid smacking as much as possible. So long as it isn't the "go-to" default punishment, I'm not completely against it.

Having been a TEACHER though, some high school students really do need a slap around the head.
 

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Within context, and without anger, smacking a kids behind or hand can be appropriate.

My Mom would get angry when she spanked me, our relationship was severely damaged because of that.

My Dad took the time to explain calmly, that my actions had consequences that hurt me and others, and that discipline was part of that. I was a rather rough child, without my Dad's careful discipline, I would be much worse then the person I am today.
 

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What definition of 'smacking' are we using?

Full backhand across the head? Spanking? Slapping their hand?
 

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Literally every single study ever published on the effects of spanking and other disciplinary violence directed at children have shown nothing but negative effects, it significantly contributes to a wide swath of behavioral problems, is directly linked to the lowering of IQ and increases the likelihood of developing several psychological conditions.

No, it's not okay to smack your child, because it's not "your" child, the fact that you fathered/mothered a person does not make them your property or your pet.

Even if "disciplinary" violence against children could be morally justified, which it can't, it would still be idiotic from a practical stand point, because it has consistently been shown to WORSEN the behavioral issues it is meant to remedy.

And no, "I was spanked and I turned out fine" does not constitute an argument in favor of it, not only is that a post-hoc rationalization, it is an emotional judgement directly contrary to the facts.
 

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I was smacked when I was young... with a belt... on the butt... only once on the legs because I tried to get away like I was a suburban black slave[footnote]That's how skinny I used to be because I had a super high metabolism...[/footnote], which is the only visible recollection of said smacking... With that said, I used to think there was a time and place to smack your kid(s), except in public because no one wants to see that shit... Now, I think you don't have to unless out of a last-minute result before the police take your kid to kid jail to "scare them straight"...

Other than that, if done "incorrectly", it could lead to their fuel of a pending smacking fetish... Take of that as you will, maybe...
 

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Misread this as smoking your child. Now my imagination has gone in ways not relevant to the thread at hand...

In anycase, I'm not going to be smacking my child. Disciplinary action can be a necessity of childhood but you do not need to execute force. It's also not something I would really be comfortable doing even if its value wasn't in severe doubt. I don't like making children cry; I feel horrible when accidents hurt them, how am I supposed to smack one around over singing too loudly in the car?