Smacking Your Child.

[Michel Henzel]

Nothing wrong with a correcting smack imo, sometimes it's necessary.

 

[Worgen]

Really all hitting a kid does is make you feel better. Because who doesn't want to hit a kid?

I've always been in the "shoot 'em or run the fuck away" camp myself. Absolutely terrified of kids, to the point I start thinking about looking for a new place to shop when I see one.

I could've been a REALLY fucking annoying kid, but you learn when you're held down for an hour that you probably shouldn't be acting that way, gets in the way of your own fun. So yeah, I'm all for smacking a kid, I'm all for smacking an adult when they're being pricks as well. Gets 'em ready for when the schoolyard comes into play too(which it will, for everyone at some point there was that one asshole that wouldn't leave you alone).

I mean, what is the alternative, constantly negotiate with a screaming brat? Letting them get their way every time? Allow them to cry themselves out? Sorry, but if they're going to cry, I'm either going to help them cut peppers without gloves and not tell them to rinse their hands, or do something for them to realize that doing that for no good reason is a detriment to them in some form. Whether that's pulling their ears, hitting their butts with a light cutting board, or just tying them to their beds and telling them they'd better get acquainted with their imaginations, because I'm not going to be talking to them while I sit in the corner for an hour with earplugs in.

Edit: reading this again, it wasn't clear that I was joking on most of this, but my basic feelings I think are plain.

Hitting will have an effect once or twice, maybe. But more than that and your just showing the kid the limit and teaching them that its not only alright to hit those smaller than them, but feels good too. Still though, even "having" to do it once means somethings gone wrong, you've already fucked something up.

let me tell you if you do the first spanking right the threat of receiving another is more then enough to keep you in line. Now I don't support abusing your child that's wrong but smacking a child and saying "No!" to them is not the same thing neither is spanking your child. A good parent is both loved and feared by their child.

That sounds like a fucked up upbringing.

nope pretty nice actually, never got into fights, I prefer to negotiate problems rather then defaulting to force, and I abhor bullies. I don't know how old you are but if you look at parents who were baby boomers their children tend to be pretty well adjusted and civil, were as those who are younger tend to have children who are often in trouble all the time.

That's a fallacy, youth crime actually spiked in the 70s and 80s, about when kids from the tail end of the baby boomers would be around. Not to mention the fact that I doubt you will find many people in prison who lament not fearing their parents enough or being there from lack of being hit.

Correlation does not imply causation. Every kid ive met who parents were like mine, as in children of baby boomers, has one thing in common none of them got in trouble till well into their 20s. By that I mean your standard fighting ticket, speeding ticket, and fender bender. my neighbor's kids on the other hand are raised in the new way of no real consequences go sit in the "naughty chair" kind of punishments, and low and behold one just got busted selling drugs, and her youngest just got expelled for attacking a younger girl. now their middle child is actually not that bad got straight A's and is now in college studying to be a doctor, so I guess the new way works on 1 out of 3.

(the ages of the 3 kids are as follows 25 the oldest,22 the middle child and the last one is only 14 all three boys.)

You do realize you just pretty much said your point means nothing, right?

Anyway, you also mentioned no real consequences parenting, that doesn't mean anything on its own. It sounds like parenting by neglect, which doesn't work.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Not only is there no scientific pedagogic evidence that spanking works, there is evidence [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3768154/] that it doesn't work and in fact poses a developmental risk you're taking without any real benefit.

So no, I wouldn't hit my child. Why would I? Doing so in face of evidence to the contrary would be ignorant, irrational, immoral and uncivilized.

let me tell you if you do the first spanking right the threat of receiving another is more then enough to keep you in line. Now I don't support abusing your child that's wrong but smacking a child and saying "No!" to them is not the same thing neither is spanking your child. A good parent is both loved and feared by their child.

What? A good parent is feared?! Where'd you get that from? Again, we see a lack of evidence that it works better than other techniques in the long run and an increase of evidence that it poses a developmental risk. As the title of that little meta-study said; we now know enough to stop hitting our children.

 

[Redryhno]

Not only is there no scientific pedagogic evidence that spanking works, there is evidence [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3768154/] that it doesn't work and in fact poses a developmental risk you're taking without any real benefit.

So no, I wouldn't hit my child. Why would I? Doing so in face of evidence to the contrary would be ignorant, irrational, immoral and uncivilized.

let me tell you if you do the first spanking right the threat of receiving another is more then enough to keep you in line. Now I don't support abusing your child that's wrong but smacking a child and saying "No!" to them is not the same thing neither is spanking your child. A good parent is both loved and feared by their child.

What? A good parent is feared?! Where'd you get that from? Again, we see a lack of evidence that it works better than other techniques in the long run and an increase of evidence that it poses a developmental risk. As the title of that little meta-study said; we now know enough to stop hitting our children.

As an example, how many times did your parent(s) call you by first, middle, and last name? And exactly what did you feel when they said that? Because prickly fuzzy wonderfulness wasn't one of them for me or anyone I know.

 

[KissingSunlight]

It does seem like we are living in a time where it's a crime to hold anybody accountable for their actions. Especially when it comes to parents disciplining their children. I read an article recently where some states are considering laws to punish parents who publicly shame their children. The link is here, but it's behind a paywall. http://time.com/3935308/when-parents-publicly-shame-their-kids/

Physical punishment for children is a more nuance position that I want to get into right now. Appropriate use of spanking is alright. However, if you physically hit your children out of personal frustration. That is abuse. I'll go into more details later on. I just wanted to share that article and wonder if there is anything at all that parents can do to discipline their children without somebody trying to make it illegal?