Smells like R&P in here.
So... anybody been enjoying Smite? It's actually a pretty decent game.
So... anybody been enjoying Smite? It's actually a pretty decent game.
Smite Dev Removes "Offensive" Goddess From Website
- Thread starter Sarah LeBoeuf
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First off it has just been removed from the site not the game and secondly regardless of how stupid it is that they want it removed at least they fucking asked nicely. Is that worth fucking nothing? They had their little protest, controversy and boycott. They said nothing wrong or outrageous on any level especially not the Westboro Baptist Church level and people are still giving them shit. This is the the destruction of freedom or speech and the avatar will probably end up in the game anyway.
This just reminds me of a very obvious parody video of bad arguments for religion that got down voted by people who were too simple to see the sarcasm and satire. In the damn video he says "How can you not say what's in the Bible isn't real I have one right here and it real. Duh." without a zealous word and people still thought it was real. I know people can do and say dumb things(I know I have before) but come on.
This just reminds me of a very obvious parody video of bad arguments for religion that got down voted by people who were too simple to see the sarcasm and satire. In the damn video he says "How can you not say what's in the Bible isn't real I have one right here and it real. Duh." without a zealous word and people still thought it was real. I know people can do and say dumb things(I know I have before) but come on.
Not quite.Saviordd1 said:
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you're free to say whatever you want whenever you want to and hang the consequences. It means the government cannot take away your ability to protest or speak your mind in public.
Like all rights, the right to freedom of speech comes with responsibility. In this case, it's the responsibility to use your words in a way that doesn't promote hate, defame or incite violence against any person(s)/group/whathaveyou. That's why you can be arrested and charged if you go to a public area and start screaming obscenities.
the spanish inquistition oddly only took place in spain, if it was a catholic venture it would of been a larger portion of Europe. funny though many people who where catholic died during the inquisition. it was an excuse for the powerful of the country to remove those they disliked, considering many high ranking officials at the time where present in many of the convictions. a dark age is simply a time with low recorded or no recorded history. the dark age also happened because the roman empire collapsed and all those countries in europe which relied on that sweet, sweet roman money no longer had and became insanely poor. also Thomas Moore while regarded as a saint burned no books of intellectual or historical importance. he prevented lutheran based books from being spread wide. was it a dick move? sure but its hardlyu as bad as your hyperbole tried to make it look.Rastelin said:
Smite is one of these concepts that I'm pretty sure someone should have sat down in front of and given it some thought. It's a novel, yes, but also slightly crass idea that assumes everyone in the market is a nice, jaded postmodern irreligious or outright atheistic customer. Smite assumes that the world is a place where sane people do not give a flying fuck about creations associated to religious pantheons, because we're all mature enough to admit that religious archetypes represent some sort of really bare-bones societal development we've evolved past for the last few centuries.
The fact is, we're not. There's a reason why it's said that religion is the opium of the people (yes, before television), and some folks sadly need a Flying Spaghetti Monster or a polytheistic menagerie of various anthropomorphic concepts to give even the vaguest of meanings to their life. Some people are willing to enter serious debates in order to preserve their chosen Flying Spaghetti Monster's integrity, some people are willing to kill for it - and others will just use legal action.
In short, the basic concept is dumb, and Hi-Rez' reaction to the Hindu community's outcry is even dumber. They might as well have released an MMO called "Formless and Aimless Murder Simulator with Lots of Boobs" that they would've attracted someone else's ire. If it's not the religious folks, it's social conservatives that just can't seem to understand that death is the most potent change in state we can, at present, either inflict on the player or show to the player, and that bewbs make it into games because bewbs sell, as sad as it seems.
The fact is, we're not. There's a reason why it's said that religion is the opium of the people (yes, before television), and some folks sadly need a Flying Spaghetti Monster or a polytheistic menagerie of various anthropomorphic concepts to give even the vaguest of meanings to their life. Some people are willing to enter serious debates in order to preserve their chosen Flying Spaghetti Monster's integrity, some people are willing to kill for it - and others will just use legal action.
In short, the basic concept is dumb, and Hi-Rez' reaction to the Hindu community's outcry is even dumber. They might as well have released an MMO called "Formless and Aimless Murder Simulator with Lots of Boobs" that they would've attracted someone else's ire. If it's not the religious folks, it's social conservatives that just can't seem to understand that death is the most potent change in state we can, at present, either inflict on the player or show to the player, and that bewbs make it into games because bewbs sell, as sad as it seems.
Yes. Ok, maybe it's because I'm an atheist that I'm having difficulty sympathizing here. I don't know about anyone else, but if I believed in any sort of god, I think it'd be pretty damn awesome to have a game where he/she/it/whatever beats the crap out of other gods.trty00 said:
Seconded.Saviordd1 said:
And "trivialized"?
Its not as if this game is actively mocking any of the gods in it. Or is in any way abusing the characters. Now, some PLAYERS might do that, but that isn't the developer's fault.
And really, are all of the religions involved in this really going to tell me that their gods are so insecure that they can't handle being playable characters in a game? Really?
Actually, if you look at some of the thousands upon thousands of images, carvings and other depictions of Kali then you will see that this is not a "reduction to T&A" of the goddess.cynicalsaint1 said:
I have seen a good deal of the images, in the Hindu temples no less, where Kali is depicted just as seductively and wearing absolutly nothing besides her weapons and a stern expression.
This is just an example of the few people higher up taking offence and presenting their arguments as the opinion of the masses.
Personally I am a christian, believe in christ and the holy spirit.
I know that Jesus' image is used in many more condescending and questionable items then this game is using Kali.
Do I whip up a firestorm in the media, the press or the chat rooms?
No, I simply choose not to partake of the show, game or items in question.
To everyone out there taking offence, GROW UP and get on with your lives.
Maybe even ( ...!gasp!... ) try spreading positive information about your religion to those that had never heard of and now know about Kali thanks to a video game!
Not the first time this has happened. THe makers of Xena had to pull the episode where Xena turns into Kali off the air for similar issues.
Uh Oh, religion touchy subject; I'd better leave a comment and run...
Most people, including followers of most 'offended' religions, just won't give a fuck. I live in England, am I annoyed when an Englishman is put in a game, over-simplification sure but it's basically that.
IMO religion makes just as many problems as it solves.
Most people, including followers of most 'offended' religions, just won't give a fuck. I live in England, am I annoyed when an Englishman is put in a game, over-simplification sure but it's basically that.
IMO religion makes just as many problems as it solves.
Meh, I really don't know enough about the game or Hinduism to say whether they're right in being offended. So this game just has all the Gods fighting or something? Can't they just use dead pantheons instead of major existing religions?
I'm glad they're doing that. While I can understand artistic interpretation, there's a difference between that and reducing a widely-worshipped goddess to T&A for cheap thrills (and as someone who's seen paintings of Kali, there's a difference between those and this - there are completely different meanings there). Perhaps if they had treated the source material with a little respect, there wouldn't be a problem. This isn't a matter of suppressing freedom of speech, it's a matter of showing people of another culture some respect. There's nothing wrong with that.