Smoking?

[FightThePower]

1. I have no problem with smoking. Sure it's bad for you, but if people want to do it I don't care. I'm a casual smoker - I have got my own lighter and cigarettes, but I have them very rarely, one or two a month at most.

2. Mixed. I thought it was pretty relaxing but also the taste was pretty horrible. I don't mind the taste now, it's not so bad.

3. They taste nicer. Also you're not supposed to double-breath with them.

Also, people who are absurdly anti-smoking piss me off. It's their life, deal with it, stop being so anal.

 

[Plurralbles]

I've only smoked one cigarette in my entire life.

I really dont' give a damn what someone puts in their bodies. I look down on someone who is addicted to it but there's a LOT of people who just like the taste.

I started with cigarillos from my local gas station with friends after I turned 18. I enjoy Romeo y Julieta cigars. They taste nutty and sweet. Corona P1's are also a favorite cheap full cigar. I cant remember what it tastes like but basically, cigars are best enjoyed by building up from truly good tasting ones with chocolate or whatever and building up to those full cigars that one must think about and light methodically to get the true taste of it instead of being like that kid failing miserably. I am now an occasional pipe smoker. Basically, I enjoy the taste of good tobacco or a fine tasting aromatic. I live with myself knowing that I have something that i can do outside and enjoy and meditate with on the cheap.

I don't smoke, but there's a thing behind it, with the cost of cigarettes and the level of addiction i observe on a regular basis, smoking could cost me anywhere from $2000-$6000/year, those figures equal into quite a bit of other better stuff i could spend that on... like parts I need for the restoration of my car, or say... saving up to do something worthwhile like putting a down payment on a house or something...

so yeah my decision is mainly that of logistics... also i hate the smell it leaves on clothing...

Except that's assuming a lot about how and what you smoke. A pack to five packs a day smoker is what that is. How or why would someone smoke a whole fucking pack a day? I've spent around 100 in the last two years that I've enjoyed tobacco.

Just don't be a douche and smoke only for the nicotine and end up addicted. It's not hard with some brain work.

 

[Marmooset]

Why honestly, does everyone care so much about people smoking? Studies show that second hand smoke does not harm anyone, the only reason that people think so is because of smear campaigns against the tobacco industry.

Doesn't harm anyone?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/secondhand-smoke/CC00023
I mean, it's only the Mayo Fucking Clinic, but hey.

Ah yes, the concern of the 'second hand smoke' (which has been filtered of most toxins anyway) in the public space (i.e. outside) is duly noted. Now, how do you feel about car owners and their murderous ways? Not only do they kill, on average, more people than almost anything else. The smoke coming out of their exhausts is, dare I say it, about as lethal.

A) Do you smoke your cigarette with the filter side out?
B) Being a proponent of greatly increased public transportation (specially here in 'Merica), I'm not gonna argue that cars are not a general hazard.
But a good bit of the driving is due to the fact that the driver has no other choice in getting from point A to point B, and not for the sheer pleasure. Smoking would be more akin to driving with an open container - something that we do have laws against ('cept fer texas, God bless 'em!)

 

[wickermole]

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[Marmooset]

One side: Studies show smoking is great in every way!
Opposition: Studies show smoking is bad in every way!

Well, if one side is 3% of the medical community (with suspicious funding and/or addiction), and the opposition is the other 97%, maybe.

As the debates on global warming and evolution illustrate, two views does not necessarily mean equal likelihoods.

 

[Spinozaad]

A) Do you smoke your cigarette with the filter side out?
B) Being a proponent of greatly increased public transportation (specially here in 'Merica), I'm not gonna argue that cars are not a general hazard.
But a good bit of the driving is due to the fact that the driver has no other choice in getting from point A to point B, and not for the sheer pleasure. Smoking would be more akin to driving with an open container - something that we do have laws against ('cept fer texas, God bless 'em!)

My apologies, but I do not get the implication for A (I blame my English, apologies). Cars have filters, but so have cigarettes. Both still pollute the air with toxins, right?

As for B. Yes, it's not a perfect comparison, but still valid. Cars pollute and, let's be honest, do we really need two (or more) cars for every family? If the distances are great, move closer to your destination. If not, improve public transportation. If you're just too damn lazy to take a walk or bike, just suck it up.

Again, and since you seem to be more sensible than that other dude, I support the smoking ban in public buildings and being a sensible smoker is important. However, whining about the toxins and poison in cigarette smoke remains silly if you live in an urban environment with cars, factories and God knows what else.

 

[Odbarc]

I hate cigarettes. I hate being around smokers. I avoid them whenever possible. The taste is terrible. The smell is terrible. It's asphyxiating.

For smokers, they're paying into a habit that has absolutely no health benefits. It's a waste of health, a waste of money, a waste of time.

I've never tried one. 90% of my family smokes and the ones that don't are the only ones with any success in their lives.

 

[Eisenfaust]

1. it's fun to play with the smoke
2. wow... playing with the smoke is fun
3. tactile sensation... tastes bullshit, like tobacco normally does, but it can be fun to... well... play with the smoke, call me old fashioned

 

[Spinozaad]

I've never tried one. 90% of my family smokes and the ones that don't are the only ones with any success in their lives.

You are aware that correlation does not imply causation, right?

 

[Dexiro]

One side: Studies show smoking is great in every way!
Opposition: Studies show smoking is bad in every way!

Well, if one side is 3% of the medical community (with suspicious funding and/or addiction), and the opposition is the other 97%, maybe.

As the debates on global warming and evolution illustrate, two views does not necessarily mean equal likelihoods.

Huh? I don't get what point you're trying to make.

I was just saying, I have all smokers telling me that smoking is good and all non-smokers telling me that smoking is bad. I have no idea who to believe.

I'm more inclined to believe that the people preaching that smoking is bad are 'enhancing the truth' for their own cause. Mostly because i'm led to believe that smoking just one cigarette will instantly turn you into an addict, but i have a lot of friends who only smoke like once every few months when they're feeling stressed and can carry on life as normal afterwards.

 

[PurpleSky]

I have a series of questions for smokers:

1.How can you live with yourself?(well,more like how do you feel about smoking)
2.How did you feel the first time you tried? (I tried it once,thank god it made me sick and I'm never touching the stuff)
3.Ever tried a cigar?What's so special about it?

Idiotic?

Are you calling me idiotic or did you feel that way trying to smoke?

 

[PurpleSky]

even though im not a smoker (yet who knows?) i must say that first question makes you come off as prick

lol'ed,don't know why,alright im editing it.

 

[PurpleSky]

I like how the OP missed the point of his own comic, thinking it was about smoking.

Well done.

The comic actually inspired me to post this,it is really recent.

 

[Lawyer105]

So when you start driving i can throw bowls of puke over you 3 times a day, as you are poisoning my air? fair play mate i look forward to that day

You're welcome to, mate. I don't drive... I've always found my bike good enough, so I never bought a car.

Here, I fixed this for you.

Your argument is flawed... that's like saying "I'm going to set your house on fire because you called the cops when I broke into it." If you CREATE the problem, you're hardly at liberty to get annoyed when people want the problem to go away.

And before you debate 'create', consider this... for everything from cars to factories, wine to air travel, there is an associated benefit that society considers more important than the side effects. What benefit is there to smoking? None. You might argue that it 'makes you feel better', but frankly that's no different from a heroin junkie demanding his fix.

 

[YouCallMeNighthawk]

So when you start driving i can throw bowls of puke over you 3 times a day, as you are poisoning my air? fair play mate i look forward to that day

You're welcome to, mate. I don't drive...

I'll put it again but more clearer.

So WHEN you start driving i can throw bowls of puke over you 3 times a day, as you are poisoning my air? fair play mate i look forward to that day

 

[The_Graff]

i hate to break it to you OP, but you to will one day die. surely its better to enjoy yourself en-route? and if you don't enjoy smoking then hey fair enough, I can't quite get my head around why people would get tied down and whipped for sexual pleasure, but its not really that important a question.

 

[Lawyer105]

I'll put it again but more clearer.

So WHEN you start driving i can throw bowls of puke over you 3 times a day, as you are poisoning my air? fair play mate i look forward to that day

Original post clarified... And your argument is just as flawed as Spinozaad's. You smokers CREATE the problem (see revised post - I'm not typing it again). Public urination is also considered unacceptable by a significant majority of people, and nobody tries to assert their 'right' to pee in public!

 

[Odbarc]

I've never tried one. 90% of my family smokes and the ones that don't are the only ones with any success in their lives.

You are aware that correlation does not imply causation, right?

I said a bit more in my OP. I just know that something that costs money and gives me nothing in return is equal to burning money. Where actually it's worse than burning money because I'm literally worse off for smoking than not smoking.
Family income is low. Every cent invested in cigarettes is a cent not saved. I make the least amount of money (I'm young, sue me. ^_^) and I manage to pay rent, bills, my own food and I still manage to save money when they cannot.

Plus investing in such avoidance stress relievers (as I'm sure is the only real reason people smoke - and thus create stress from not smoking) also prevents you from practicing basic problem solving skills. You mind atrophies, so does your body. You wither away, become miserable and blame others for your own problems and consequences.
Or at least that's what I've lived around my whole life.

 

[Marmooset]

My apologies, but I do not get the implication for A (I blame my English, apologies). Cars have filters, but so have cigarettes. Both still pollute the air with toxins, right?

Sorry. I can be a bit unclear from time to time, and language has nothing to do with it. My first point was in response to you saying that secondhand smoke was filtered. It's actually less filtered than the smoke inhaled by the smoker.

Still, likewise I find you more reasonable than other opponents on this issue, as you seem more consistent. I believe we differ more that you are more lenient to both while I'm more strict. I can respect that.

One side: Studies show smoking is great in every way!
Opposition: Studies show smoking is bad in every way!

Well, if one side is 3% of the medical community (with suspicious funding and/or addiction), and the opposition is the other 97%, maybe.

As the debates on global warming and evolution illustrate, two views does not necessarily mean equal likelihoods.

Huh? I don't get what point you're trying to make.

I was just saying, I have all smokers telling me that smoking is good and all non-smokers telling me that smoking is bad. I have no idea who to believe.

I'm more inclined to believe that the people preaching that smoking is bad are 'enhancing the truth' for their own cause. Mostly because i'm led to believe that smoking just one cigarette will instantly turn you into an addict, but i have a lot of friends who only smoke like once every few months when they're feeling stressed and can carry on life as normal afterwards.

What I'm saying is that the issue of whether or not smoking is bad for you is not a controversy. It's established. Most smokers themselves will admit it's bad for you. Where they often differ (read: rationalize) is whether smoking is a problem level for them: "I only smoke socially/once in a while", etc.

If someone is telling you that smoking is not bad for you (let alone 'great in every way'), they are either A) an addict, B) of questionable motive, or C) a fool.
And if you're giving their advice weight, well...

 

[Continuity]

3. Cigar's are almost entirely about the image.

There speaks a person who doesn't know what they're talking about.