So! Avengers: Endgame

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

Spoiler

Did Captain America kiss a relation in Civil war?
If Thanos could make everyone more respectful of the environment/resources, why wasn't that Plan A
It's now 5 years in the future but Tom Holland didn't finish school. Imagine having to figure out birthdays from now on.half the planet would be five years younger than their DOB days

Spoiler

1. oh god your right
2. I have stated before that thanos is a crazy idiot taken in by grief. honestly both of the Thanos's death were probably a mercy
3. I'm kind of hoping that's a major plot point of the new Spider-Man movie coming out. I really hope the rest of marvel movies kind of pick up on the snap event somewhat. It's a really interesting plot concept.

 

[Trunkage]

Spoiler

Did Captain America kiss a relation in Civil war?
If Thanos could make everyone more respectful of the environment/resources, why wasn't that Plan A
It's now 5 years in the future but Tom Holland didn't finish school. Imagine having to figure out birthdays from now on.half the planet would be five years younger than their DOB days

Spoiler

1. oh god your right
2. I have stated before that thanos is a crazy idiot taken in by grief. honestly both of the Thanos's death were probably a mercy
3. I'm kind of hoping that's a major plot point of the new Spider-Man movie coming out. I really hope the rest of marvel movies kind of pick up on the snap event somewhat. It's a really interesting plot concept.

I'm a bit disappointed that only one person read my spoiler. Because it's fucked up.

Spoiler

becuase you know there were years there between movies and it's unlikely it stopped at kissing

 

[McElroy]

Oh dear the audience. There was a woman sitting behind me actually saying "oh my god" (in English, and this is a Finnish theatre we're sitting in) every time something of note happened.

God I had a fat chick sitting in front of me that kept swaying frantically and rocking the seats around her every time Iron Man called someone a funny name.

Yeah, is Iron Man even funny in this movie? The scene with the shits was damn near out of character. Rhodey has the funny quips and Ant-Man has his antics (get it? ANT-ics! hahahaa). Not forgetting Boomer-Banner.

I'm a bit disappointed that only one person read my spoiler. Because it's fucked up.

Who cares? He doesn't have to tell her "btw, had sex with your niece in the future, she was better in bed too"

 

[Palindromemordnilap_v1legacy]

Unashamedly loved it. But then I'm the sort of person who's thrilled they finally actually said "Avengers Assemble!" after teasing it once or twice, so of course I was going to love it

 

[Marik2]

In my city, almost all the theaters are packed morning till midnight, and all the good seats are taken. I don't want to sit right in front of the screen, so I will just wait till next week.

 

[MrCalavera_v1legacy]

Spoiler

Did Captain America kiss a relation in Civil war?
If Thanos could make everyone more respectful of the environment/resources, why wasn't that Plan A
It's now 5 years in the future but Tom Holland didn't finish school. Imagine having to figure out birthdays from now on.half the planet would be five years younger than their DOB days

Spoiler

1. oh god your right
2. I have stated before that thanos is a crazy idiot taken in by grief. honestly both of the Thanos's death were probably a mercy
3. I'm kind of hoping that's a major plot point of the new Spider-Man movie coming out. I really hope the rest of marvel movies kind of pick up on the snap event somewhat. It's a really interesting plot concept.

I'm a bit disappointed that only one person read my spoiler. Because it's fucked up.

Spoiler

becuase you know there were years there between movies and it's unlikely it stopped at kissing

The movie's still in theaters. Wait a week maybe before most will watch it.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

So I got bored last night and just decided to go see this.

It was boring. And it wasn't just me. This was a Saturday night, opening weekend showing, theater was packed, every screen is showing this movie and the crowd seemed just as bored as I was. No one clapped, no one cheered, no one laughed or cried or did anything. It was dead silent the entire movie, as if everyone was asleep, and even in the end when the credits came up, nothing. Dead silence then people started to leave. Like even during the Big Moments when does and goes , nothing. And I know there's meant to be a reaction because the movie awkwardly stops after jokes for laugh beats, or big moments for applause. And it got nothing. So here we have Tony Stark telling a joke, pause for laugh, no laugh, the characters are awkwardly standing around for a few heartbeats to let the non-existent laughter die down.

Like kinda' just a dud. Like this is a 100% accurate representation of my movie going experience with this crowd

 

[Trunkage]

It was boring. And it wasn't just me. This was a Saturday night, opening weekend showing, theater was packed, every screen is showing this movie and the crowd seemed just as bored as I was. No one clapped, no one cheered, no one laughed or cried or did anything. It was dead silent the entire movie, as if everyone was asleep, and even in the end when the credits came up, nothing. Dead silence then people started to leave. Like even during the Big Moments when does and goes , nothing. And I know there's meant to be a reaction because the movie awkwardly stops after jokes for laugh beats, or big moments for applause. And it got nothing. So here we have Tony Stark telling a joke, pause for laugh, no laugh, the characters are awkwardly standing around for a few heartbeats to let the non-existent laughter die down.

I got the same response. Not much talk or noise. But then, I thought a quite theatre would be an indication of people respecting others desire to watch the movie. I guess my like of the movie must have blinded me to everyone's dislike of the movie....

 

[WhiteFangofWhoa]

Full house when I saw it today, and that was an early showing.

To my chagrin, somebody spoiled me about the deaths, but thankfully that didn't disrupt my enjoyment of it too much. The main surprise wasn't the deaths, but the resolution of the main scenario. It's the Avenger's 'endzone dance' taken up to a thousand. The perfect excuse to make a 'greatest hits' compilation of various MCU movies/scenes and add additional layers to it and numerous past characters while they're at it (perhaps the largest cast of any MCU movie?), naturally ending with a final battle designed to exceed Infinity War's finale.

Spoiler

I can see how it might not hold up as well as IW on repeat views since the main surprise is lost. Also surprised that for a character who gets so much great dialogue, Thanos gets absolutely nothing for last words. Very glad the rumors that they would be bringing in a new villain 'worse than Thanos' for this one were unfounded. Even if it had turned out to be Death manipulating him as I'd suspected they would have none of the background or interest Thanos had developed, coming out of nowhere. Also glad Captain Marvel did not steal the show- if anything it was the opposite.

Not as gripping as IW in places, but as grand a finale as expected.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

It was boring. And it wasn't just me. This was a Saturday night, opening weekend showing, theater was packed, every screen is showing this movie and the crowd seemed just as bored as I was. No one clapped, no one cheered, no one laughed or cried or did anything. It was dead silent the entire movie, as if everyone was asleep, and even in the end when the credits came up, nothing. Dead silence then people started to leave. Like even during the Big Moments when does and goes , nothing. And I know there's meant to be a reaction because the movie awkwardly stops after jokes for laugh beats, or big moments for applause. And it got nothing. So here we have Tony Stark telling a joke, pause for laugh, no laugh, the characters are awkwardly standing around for a few heartbeats to let the non-existent laughter die down.

I got the same response. Not much talk or noise. But then, I thought a quite theater would be an indication of people respecting others desire to watch the movie. I guess my like of the movie must have blinded me to everyone's dislike of the movie....

I guess its weird. I saw Infinity War the same day - Saturday night opening weekend, same cinema. Roaring applause, standing ovations, clapping, cheering, crying, shouting, gnawing, biting, breaking, hacking, burning!
Night and day difference. If I didn't know better I'd say I saw the movie alone, such was the void of response. To be fair a few people coughed and sneezed, but that's not a response to Captain shaving his beard.

I personally didn't have much response because I felt it was very obvious and route and just by-the-numbers, taking no big risks or chances. Just get things back to a semblance of normal for phase 4. I hope the 100+ other goers didn't feel the same

 

[Xprimentyl]

Why do I feel like the mark in a ?no soap, radio? joke here? We?ve had a superhero movie every 12 minutes for a decade; why the extreme hype for this one? Where?s the miasma of exhausted indifference that?s surrounded these movies for so long? I?m not trying to bring anyone down; I?m genuinely curious. Is this film supposed to be something other than super power porn?

Well, not really. "Super power porn" is a pretty accurate description. I won't dispute it.

The film doesn't accomplish any masterworks of plotting, nor does it wring out any Oscar-worthy performances from its actors. It's pure fanservice, made impressive largely because of how well-executed the fanservice is. There are some very hefty emotional beats, but they hit the hardest if you're a fan.

One spoilery example:

Spoiler: Category 5 spoiler alert

The final shot of the film is a little suburban house somewhere in America somewhen in the 1950s, with the front door slightly ajar and some music playing. It pans across to the window, where we can see Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter slow-dancing to some music.

The significance of this is unstated in the film itself. You have to have seen Captain America: The First Avenger, and to have known that as Steve was flying the Red Skull's doombomber into the ocean (where he would be frozen for seventy years), he was promising Peggy that he would come back...because he'd promised he'd take her for a dance. He's cut off mid-transmission, and the final line of his film - right after finding out that he's seventy years in the future and has overshot Peggy's entire life - is the fairly heartbreaking "I had a date."

You would only feel anything from that scene if you were a Marvel fan who'd been paying attention since at least 2011. If you weren't, it's meaningless pap.

Ah, well and earnestly said; makes total sense. As a fan of ?things,? I?m not opposed when I am pandered to over said things in high quality and regard.

That being said, a pair of tickets for a double date was my friend?s ?welcome home? gift to me as I visited home this past weekend, so I saw it Saturday night, and it was good. LONG as all get out (three fucking hours?? Are you kidding me?!?), but good. It was entertaining spectacle which is where my bar for those types of films tends to be. I see now that I?m missing broad swaths of info having only seen maybe a third of the 22 film saga as there were several moments where a collective gasp, laugh or cheer from the audience when this-or-that character popped up, said or did something, and I was utterly out of the loop, so I accept the onus is on me if the film wasn?t as ?Second Coming of Christ?-y for me. A small part of me wants to fill in the approximately 14 film gap by watching them for the context, but the larger part of me (the part with the 3-hours-numb ass) feels the gist is good enough.

I DO have one issue, if you or anyone could be bothered:

Spoiler

I?ve not seen Captain Marvel?s solo film, but after seeing her rocket in from space to two-shot an in-atmosphere, city-sized spacecraft, I get the impression she?s pretty badass. Can someone explain how did she find herself evenly matched and ultimately bested when she went toe-to-toe with a gauntlet-less Thanos?!? I mean the guy is shown just minutes before having his hands full knuckling up with the likes of Iron Man and Captain America (i.e.: augmented humans,) so he has limits; how could Captain Marvel not utterly and definitively destroy him with literal god-like abilities?? I mean, as a casual movie goer looking for little more than a couple of hours of popcorn fodder, I allow for a LOT; if MY eyes roll, ya? done something wrong. Lemme guess: her powers diminish the physically closer she is to someone whose name begins with the letter ?T??

 

[McElroy]

Spoiler

I?ve not seen Captain Marvel?s solo film, but after seeing her rocket in from space to two-shot an in-atmosphere, city-sized spacecraft, I get the impression she?s pretty badass. Can someone explain how did she find herself evenly matched and ultimately bested when she went toe-to-toe with a gauntlet-less Thanos?!? I mean the guy is shown just minutes before having his hands full knuckling up with the likes of Iron Man and Captain America (i.e.: augmented humans,) so he has limits; how could Captain Marvel not utterly and definitively destroy him with literal god-like abilities?? I mean, as a casual movie goer looking for little more than a couple of hours of popcorn fodder, I allow for a LOT; if MY eyes roll, ya? done something wrong. Lemme guess: her powers diminish the physically closer she is to someone whose name begins with the letter ?T??

She had terminal velocity. Also

Spoiler

Captain America gets swatted off like a fly when he goes against Thanos without the Mjolnir. Thanos seems to be an incredibly potent fighter when he is against a threat he knows beforehand. All in all you're right, superhero flicks always seem to raise this problem of "who can beat who and why" and oh boy have we all watched enough YouTube to know how popular of a topic that is.

 

[Baffle]

Spoiler

I'm concerned that losing half of the people on Earth has left the planet a desolate wasteland that seems to contain only about 3% of the previous population.

Edit: Bucky is the only superhero who doesn't own a suit. A real suit I mean, not a costume.

 

[Xprimentyl]

Can the OP please put ?SPOILERS? in the thread title? I?m getting confused on which blocks of text to put my spoiler bookends around?

Spoiler

I?ve not seen Captain Marvel?s solo film, but after seeing her rocket in from space to two-shot an in-atmosphere, city-sized spacecraft, I get the impression she?s pretty badass. Can someone explain how did she find herself evenly matched and ultimately bested when she went toe-to-toe with a gauntlet-less Thanos?!? I mean the guy is shown just minutes before having his hands full knuckling up with the likes of Iron Man and Captain America (i.e.: augmented humans,) so he has limits; how could Captain Marvel not utterly and definitively destroy him with literal god-like abilities?? I mean, as a casual movie goer looking for little more than a couple of hours of popcorn fodder, I allow for a LOT; if MY eyes roll, ya? done something wrong. Lemme guess: her powers diminish the physically closer she is to someone whose name begins with the letter ?T??

She had terminal velocity.

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Indulge me; I?m not sure what you mean by that. I understand terminal velocity to be the maximum rate of descent of a falling body on earth. I?d say to punch through the hull and literally every deck of an unimaginably huge spacecraft, THEN turn around mid-flight and do the same thing at an upward angle to completely destroy the thing requires a bit more than [approximately] 120 pounds of woman moving at 9.8 m/s? Or Is ?terminal velocity? one of her signature ?I win? powers like Voltron?s blazing sword? And regardless of the response to that question, let?s just say Thanos is a solid 500-600 pounds; if she can generate enough force to punch through a spacecraft, I?m absolutely positive she would have no problem, at the very least, knocking Thanos down and unconscious if not the more likely scenario, disintegrating him at the molecular level leaving but a purple mist of misanthropy in her wake?

Also

Spoiler

Captain America gets swatted off like a fly when he goes against Thanos without the Mjolnir. Thanos seems to be an incredibly potent fighter when he is against a threat he knows beforehand. All in all you're right, superhero flicks always seem to raise this problem of "who can beat who and why" and oh boy have we all watched enough YouTube to know how popular of a topic that is.

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Yeah, I get it, which is why I qualified my question by saying I willingly suspend disbelief in most cases. I don?t expect everything to make total sense; I am there for the fantasy after all. But when I saw her do that to a spacecraft, then after a few seconds of fisticuffs, get tossed by Thanos who moments before somehow managed to not effortlessly kill a couple augmented humans with his evidently god-matching strength, the dissonance was palpable; it was like watching a powerlifter deadlift 1,000 pounds only to throw out his back picking up some loose change that fell out of his pocket. That whole scene, as spectacular as it was, really didn?t sit well with me. Thanos? ability just seems to scale with whomever he?s fighting at the time. How does he manage to not kill Captain America immediately? Oh, Captain America?s as strong as Thor now. Ok, so if he?s ?that? strong, then why wasn?t the REAL Thor able to provide a worthy fight in previous scenes? Where were Thor?s lightning attacks?? Was it the beer-fed spare tire? And I don?t think either Thor OR Captain America (or anyone else in the finale melee) could single-handedly bring down a spacecraft in literal seconds if at all, yet Captain Marvel takes a two-piece from Thanos (who?s been dealing them out to far lesser beings to equal effect this whole time) and gets tossed faster than the customer copy of my bar tab. Is Captain America now stronger than Captain Marvel? This would honestly be a complete nonissue if they didn?t show the spacecraft getting destroyed like that; you can?t show me that much concentrated awesome, then show that same awesome to be as potent as a wet fart in the kiddie pool 45 seconds later.

I know I?m being nit-picky, but you?ve got to understand, for ME to get to this point takes some effort; I watched Wanted and loved every cross-city bending bullet without batting an eyelash.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I DO have one issue, if you or anyone could be bothered:

Spoiler

I?ve not seen Captain Marvel?s solo film, but after seeing her rocket in from space to two-shot an in-atmosphere, city-sized spacecraft, I get the impression she?s pretty badass. Can someone explain how did she find herself evenly matched and ultimately bested when she went toe-to-toe with a gauntlet-less Thanos?!? I mean the guy is shown just minutes before having his hands full knuckling up with the likes of Iron Man and Captain America (i.e.: augmented humans,) so he has limits; how could Captain Marvel not utterly and definitively destroy him with literal god-like abilities?? I mean, as a casual movie goer looking for little more than a couple of hours of popcorn fodder, I allow for a LOT; if MY eyes roll, ya? done something wrong. Lemme guess: her powers diminish the physically closer she is to someone whose name begins with the letter ?T??

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I felt Tony rushed in a little too quickly to use the snappy snap against Thanos et al. Captain Marvel almost defeated him even when he had all the stones with him, she can't give it a second shot now that he's been de-gauntleted by Tony?

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I DO have one issue, if you or anyone could be bothered:

Spoiler

I?ve not seen Captain Marvel?s solo film, but after seeing her rocket in from space to two-shot an in-atmosphere, city-sized spacecraft, I get the impression she?s pretty badass. Can someone explain how did she find herself evenly matched and ultimately bested when she went toe-to-toe with a gauntlet-less Thanos?!? I mean the guy is shown just minutes before having his hands full knuckling up with the likes of Iron Man and Captain America (i.e.: augmented humans,) so he has limits; how could Captain Marvel not utterly and definitively destroy him with literal god-like abilities?? I mean, as a casual movie goer looking for little more than a couple of hours of popcorn fodder, I allow for a LOT; if MY eyes roll, ya? done something wrong. Lemme guess: her powers diminish the physically closer she is to someone whose name begins with the letter ?T??

Spoiler

I felt Tony rushed in a little too quickly to use the snappy snap against Thanos et al. Captain Marvel almost defeated him even when he had all the stones with him, she can't give it a second shot now that he's been de-gauntleted by Tony?

Spoiler

I think it would have been cool to use all the stones to overcharge the suit and blast Thanos with everything.

 

[Baffle]

Spoiler

I think it would have been cool to use all the stones to overcharge the suit and blast Thanos with everything.

Spoiler

I thought it would've been cool if Scarlet Witch had just dismembered him with her brain rather than making bits of his armour ping off. I mean, just snap his fingers to wonky angles and let him try to put a glove on then.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Spoiler

Have to agree about Captain Marvel vs Thanos after seeing Captain America etc come close to taking him on and her just having obliterated his ship. Would have expected her to give him a bit of a harder time. Also compared to the end of Infinity War, Thanos comes off as way more of a badass here than there in a fight without the gauntlet. Long story short being just as powerful as he has to be for the story at that point seems to be his issue. It's not too bad a thing but when it's noticeable it hurts a bit.

 

[Trunkage]

It was boring. And it wasn't just me. This was a Saturday night, opening weekend showing, theater was packed, every screen is showing this movie and the crowd seemed just as bored as I was. No one clapped, no one cheered, no one laughed or cried or did anything. It was dead silent the entire movie, as if everyone was asleep, and even in the end when the credits came up, nothing. Dead silence then people started to leave. Like even during the Big Moments when does and goes , nothing. And I know there's meant to be a reaction because the movie awkwardly stops after jokes for laugh beats, or big moments for applause. And it got nothing. So here we have Tony Stark telling a joke, pause for laugh, no laugh, the characters are awkwardly standing around for a few heartbeats to let the non-existent laughter die down.

I got the same response. Not much talk or noise. But then, I thought a quite theater would be an indication of people respecting others desire to watch the movie. I guess my like of the movie must have blinded me to everyone's dislike of the movie....

I guess its weird. I saw Infinity War the same day - Saturday night opening weekend, same cinema. Roaring applause, standing ovations, clapping, cheering, crying, shouting, gnawing, biting, breaking, hacking, burning!
Night and day difference. If I didn't know better I'd say I saw the movie alone, such was the void of response. To be fair a few people coughed and sneezed, but that's not a response to Captain shaving his beard.

I personally didn't have much response because I felt it was very obvious and route and just by-the-numbers, taking no big risks or chances. Just get things back to a semblance of normal for phase 4. I hope the 100+ other goers didn't feel the same

Not doing it the numbers is punished by audiences. Just ask The Last Jedi. We, generally, like everything cozy and safe. We don't want something out of left field, generally. Look at an example of a suprise movie, the Sixth Sense. Now, every movie by M. Night is expected to have a twist. Even when you do something new and fresh, it gets old and stale very quickly.

I'd agree, I'd love more chances being taken. Some of my favourite movies are Donnie Darko, Frailty, Arlington Road and the Usual Suspects. Not becuase of great story telling, but becuase they had something new to say. Even Vox Lux from last year was a stand out (not necessarily good, but it made an impression). Or Mandy. Annihilation was incredibly derivative as a story but the way it looked was incredible. So was Drive, who relied on feel rather than story. I bring up the last one, becuase, as I've said, Endgame doesn't make sense. But, for me, the feeling was there.

Spoiler

No movie really told me that Stark was worried about everyone in the world. They told us through action. Potts telling him that everyone is safe, and that he could sleep was a culmination of his character, that he fought the best he,could, in his own way and that he was enough. That speaks to me more than any other sacrifice I've seen in a movie, even when you see similar scenes in a war movie.

It's like Gordon's monologue at the end of The Dark Knight. None of what happened before made any sense, story wise. But the feeling of the sacrifice Batman was making to save the soul of Gotham felt real to me.

 

[Trunkage]

Spoiler

Have to agree about Captain Marvel vs Thanos after seeing Captain America etc come close to taking him on and her just having obliterated his ship. Would have expected her to give him a bit of a harder time. Also compared to the end of Infinity War, Thanos comes off as way more of a badass here than there in a fight without the gauntlet. Long story short being just as powerful as he has to be for the story at that point seems to be his issue. It's not too bad a thing but when it's noticeable it hurts a bit.

Spoiler

She was the only one able to withstand a hit. He had to use a stone against her to win