Badass avatar. Also, some stuff to avoid incurring mod wrath. Wrath is a word that is not unlike wraith.theevilgenius60 said:I'm only on the first mission after augmentation, but so far it's the shit. I'm a big Mass Effect fan and this feels like a darker, grittier, more customizable Mass Effect 2. Then again this is just me seeing it through the first bit. Here's hoping it keeps this up
It's pretty darn focused on being stealthy. That kills a lot of the fun.Enamour said:What!Souplex said:A bit too stealthy to be called great, but it's pretty good.
I've got a Core 2 Duo 6600 (2.4GHz) and a GTX 460, and for the most part the game runs great on high settings. A couple instances of low framerate right after I load an area, but after that it's fine.Neuromaster said:Any word on how it plays with older hardware on the PC? I'm running an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3GHz and a Nvidia GTX260, so I'm a bit concerned about framerate issues.
You can totally run and gun it if you want.Souplex said:A bit too stealthy to be called great, but it's pretty good.
Since you brought up AP: I've yet to play this, but my impression from what I've heard is that it's basically like if Alpha Protocol had actually been polished a considerable amount. That sound right to you?Skorpyo said:Take the awesomeness of the original, take all the good parts of Mass Effect 2 and Alpha Protocol, and you're pretty much there.
It's really, really good. I've yet to find much to complain about.
I can see how stealth isnt your type of game style, but thats not a reason to say its not great. Its like saying mass effect has too much scifi to be great, Its really just preference.Souplex said:A bit too stealthy to be called great, but it's pretty good.
I'm pretty sure that there are many people who enjoy stealth and I really hope that whole scientists thing you said was a joke and that you weren't being serious. How can it be proven that stealth isn't fun? If stealth isn't fun then why do people like the Thief or Hitman games? Why was "All Ghillied Up" one of the best levels in CoD 4?Souplex said:It's pretty darn focused on being stealthy. That kills a lot of the fun.
When I buy an RPG, I expect to be able to play it my way, but you get significantly more EXP for being stealthy, and your health is so pitiful that stealth is pretty much the entire option.
As scientists have pointed out for years:
Stealth =/= Fun.
So the Thief series isn't fun in the slightest, then? ;PSouplex said:As scientists have pointed out for years:
Stealth =/= Fun.
But Sci-Fi is a good thing.Nicolairigel said:I can see how stealth isnt your type of game style, but thats not a reason to say its not great. Its like saying mass effect has too much scifi to be great, Its really just preference.Souplex said:A bit too stealthy to be called great, but it's pretty good.
There is nothing tactical about simply hiding behind a wall, and waiting for your enemies to go away.ChupathingyX said:I'm pretty sure that there are many people who enjoy stealth and I really hope that whole scientists thing you said was a joke and that you weren't being serious. How can it be proven that stealth isn't fun? If stealth isn't fun then why do people like the Thief or Hitman games? Why was "All Ghillied Up" one of the best levels in CoD 4?Souplex said:It's pretty darn focused on being stealthy. That kills a lot of the fun.
When I buy an RPG, I expect to be able to play it my way, but you get significantly more EXP for being stealthy, and your health is so pitiful that stealth is pretty much the entire option.
As scientists have pointed out for years:
Stealth =/= Fun.
Maybe nowadays there are more people who prefer to go in guns blazing without a second thought, but that does not mean that there aren't people who would prefer a more tactical approach.
What game are you playing? Certainly not Deus Ex, since I haven't noticed getting any rewards for bypassing enemies. You only get xp if you kill or subdue enemies. Are you talking about getting a whole WHOPPING 30 more xp for using a takedown instead of shooting them with a gun? Besides, the guns blazing option is the easiest and quickest in DE:HR anyways. This isn't Serious Sam you know... you can't stand in the middle of a room circle-strafing and expect to live. The few gunfights I have gotten into aren't difficult: you just have to know how to use cover effectively, and keep moving. Seriously man... what game are you playing? I'd really like to know. Or are you talking about the ghost BONUS? Because that's just a... bonus. I really don't think you are playing the same Deus Ex as everyone else...Souplex said:It's pretty darn focused on being stealthy. That kills a lot of the fun.
When I buy an RPG, I expect to be able to play it my way, but you get significantly more EXP for being stealthy, and your health is so pitiful that stealth is pretty much the entire option.
As scientists have pointed out for years:
Stealth =/= Fun.
You actually do get points for completing an objective without being seen. Its called a "Ghost" bonus. Several hundred points (300), I think. There is also "Smooth Operator" for not setting off any alarms.Stall said:What game are you playing? Certainly not Deus Ex, since I haven't noticed getting any rewards for bypassing enemies. You only get xp if you kill or subdue enemies. Are you talking about getting a whole WHOPPING 30 more xp for using a takedown instead of shooting them with a gun? Besides, the guns blazing option is the easiest and quickest in DE:HR anyways. This isn't Serious Sam you know... you can't stand in the middle of a room circle-strafing and expect to live. The few gunfights I have gotten into aren't difficult: you just have to know how to use cover effectively, and keep moving. Seriously man... what game are you playing? I'd really like to know. Or are you talking about the ghost BONUS? Because that's just a... bonus. I really don't think you are playing the same Deus Ex as everyone else...Souplex said:It's pretty darn focused on being stealthy. That kills a lot of the fun.
When I buy an RPG, I expect to be able to play it my way, but you get significantly more EXP for being stealthy, and your health is so pitiful that stealth is pretty much the entire option.
As scientists have pointed out for years:
Stealth =/= Fun.
That's actually another problem I have. I haven't noticed getting a reward for bypassing enemies. Apparently DE thinks that the real show of skill isn't slipping by your foe unnoticed, but having to smack them in the head before you do. It's really disappointing... even Alpha Protocol gave you a little bit of xp for being able to bypass your enemy.