Are you telling me the LGBT community doesn't have their own culture and lifestyle?[/quote]Woodsey said:Different lifestyles? They like fucking guys. Big whoop. Some people like shagging fat chicks, that doesn't give them a whole new lifestyle.
I don't know, I can kind of understand where he's coming from. Provided it isn't just homophobia.Woodsey said:And that's how we get stuck with attitudes from the 1950s
People get treated differently all the time, just usually in the same way.Zen Toombs said:I had been extraordinarily lucky enough in my life to have never been treated differently for my sexuality, even from people who are blatantly homophobic.
So, by the same logic, if a black guy who was put in a suite with three white guys wanted to move to a suite with more black guys, just because he would be more comfortable living in a suite with more black guys, he'd be racist? Or, if a guy was put in a suite with three girls and wanted to move to a suite with more guys, he'd be sexist?JoesshittyOs said:Well, he did say "I have never been confronted with a situation like this before" leading us to believe that he's trying to avoid confrontation with homosexuals.Agitated Owl said:I have never understood this. Homophobia is the irrational fear and/or hatred of homosexuals. Nothing in the guy's email suggested that he was a homophobe. In fact, he was very polite about it. At most, the email indicates that he was uncomfortable with the situation. But there are any number of reasons that would account for his discomfort, none of which involve a fear or hatred of homosexuals.
What about his response makes him a homophobe?
You don't have to "hate" the gay community in order to be a homophobe. It's the same concept with racism. You don't have to hate black people in order to be called a racist.
It's a small discomfort around something you're unfamiliar with, so it's technically a phobia of something he doesn't understand. It's not exactly appropriate behavior, but the person in question handled it very rationally, so I don't think it's right to berate him for that.
Or at least that's how I understand it. I do understand my definition applies to a lot more people than your's does though.
In all technicalities, yes, that would be considered racist. He's avoiding a situation based on race.Agitated Owl said:So, by the same logic, if a black guy who was put in a suite with three white guys wanted to move to a suite with more black guys, just because he would be more comfortable living in a suite with more black guys, he'd be racist?
I don't think that this really applies in the same way as a gay roommate, and there's not really enough info onto why he's moving. So these two situations don't really apply to each other.Or, if a guy was put in a suite with three girls and wanted to move to a suite with more guys, he'd be sexist?
The guy would be moving from the apartment with the girls because he would feel uncomfortable living with three girls. The point being that if the bar for homophobia, racism, and possibly sexism is set this low, then these labels no longer mean anything particularly negative. Setting the bar this low therefore robs the terms of their meaning and can only help legitimize those who are actually racist, sexist, or homophobic in a meaningful (non-technical) way.JoesshittyOs said:In all technicalities, yes, that would be considered racist. He's avoiding a situation based on race.Agitated Owl said:So, by the same logic, if a black guy who was put in a suite with three white guys wanted to move to a suite with more black guys, just because he would be more comfortable living in a suite with more black guys, he'd be racist?I don't think that this really applies in the same way as a gay roommate, and there's not really enough info onto why he's moving. So these two situations don't really apply to each other.Or, if a guy was put in a suite with three girls and wanted to move to a suite with more guys, he'd be sexist?
That's totally fair enough then. It's just an awkward situation for both parties really!Zen Toombs said:But it was relevant, he spoke of his girlfriend and I spoke of my current boyfriend....Dystopia said:I'm bisexual myself, so here's what I would do: I wouldn't mention it to the girl I was sharing with. If I don't fancy her, no problem, she never needs to know. If I do, I deal with it, find someone else and move on.Zen Toombs said:-snip-Dystopia said:-snip-
I do see where you are coming from though.
NameIsRobertPaulson said:Honestly, considering the stories we get every day on The Escapist, this is fairly minor. No one got attacked, beaten, shot, or sued. So the roommate is uncomfortable. Roommate's call. Nothing wrong with that.
PessimistOwl said:Well, while I think we could agree that everyone should respect the existence of gay and bisexual people, you can't honestly blame him for being uncomfortable around you. I mean, you've probably had many people in your life that you're honestly uncomfortable around yourself, but you probably don't see that as a maneagable thing to overcome do you? It's the same with this guy/girl. It's just the way people are.
OP here, and as I say in the Original Post and keep saying I know that (for the bolded) I'm extraordinarily lucky, and for the (italicised) I know that it's his call and his choice, and that's okay. I wish the guy had been more open, but it's okay that he's not. As for the (underlined), I'm usually comfortable enough around people to be okay with most things, and if I'm supposed to be in a situation I'd be uncomfortable with I let it play out. The only times that I've ever NOT just let the situation play out was when 1) I was roommated with someone with very bad hygiene and smelled horrible (it was so bad that I often didn't stay in my room, but I still kept at it for as long as possible) and 2) I was roomed with previously mentioned Homophobic Roomie and I was worried for my best friend's safety (also my own, if he changed his mind that I was cool even though I was bisexual).bauke67 said:So? If that's what he wants that's his choice, and he's free to do so. No big deal here.