So..., SONY was not using outdated servers after all
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I prefer homemade... both the waffles/pancakes and the syrup... But seriously now, is this going to be the new direction of the thread? or are we staying on the PC discussion? OR are we going to go back on topic... even though it doesnt seem to have too much in discussion value to start with...Zetion said:
As far as I see, that article is just as much rumor as what Dr. Stafford said. I see no proof in that article whatsoever. Just "some dudes checked google archives and it turns out Sony had the latest patch, honest!" And if you go back to the original source, they make the same claim as Dr. Stafford himself did: That they have no firsthand knowledge that they are correct and that they could very well be wrong.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1549251&postcount=491
Bottom line, this is just as much rumor to me as what Dr. Stafford said until someone reputable confirms or denies one of these two stories. Weren't the FBI and Homeland Security looking into this? How about we let them say what kind of security Sony had when they finish their investigation instead of some guy who admits he doesn't know for sure what he's talking about or some other guy on some forum who might not have checked the right server who also admits he doesn't know for sure what he's talking about? Yeah, I'm going to do that.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1549251&postcount=491
Bottom line, this is just as much rumor to me as what Dr. Stafford said until someone reputable confirms or denies one of these two stories. Weren't the FBI and Homeland Security looking into this? How about we let them say what kind of security Sony had when they finish their investigation instead of some guy who admits he doesn't know for sure what he's talking about or some other guy on some forum who might not have checked the right server who also admits he doesn't know for sure what he's talking about? Yeah, I'm going to do that.
Don't forget about Penis size as well. That's been brought up to go along with the virtual penis fight....WanderingFool said:
OT: Not really surprised by this. I mean it was kind of a gimme that Sony wasn't using horribly out of date stuff, they were just lax about keeping up security
But what does this say?
That the hackers were really good or got lucky ?
Or that even though the software was new, it wasn't that good anyways?
I have no idea. Feel sorry for Sony anyways, hope they get back on their feet soon.
And also, this thread is unbelievably derailed. And i actually find it interesting reading all of the posts... I'm weird, i guess. Even crazy, maybe!!!!
That the hackers were really good or got lucky ?
Or that even though the software was new, it wasn't that good anyways?
I have no idea. Feel sorry for Sony anyways, hope they get back on their feet soon.
And also, this thread is unbelievably derailed. And i actually find it interesting reading all of the posts... I'm weird, i guess. Even crazy, maybe!!!!
Homemade are the best but waffles beat out the flapjacks. If you are going to have pancakes add some butterscotch chips into the batter and a bit of Ameretto and cinnimon sugar to the syrup. 'Tis awesome. For waffles, I like putting fruit and whipped cream on them. But I sometimes do syrup too.monkey_man said:
OT: His post covered me too.
REAL PC gamers buy scrap and build the component themselves.
well at least i didn't buy a new PC since 2002, only ever replaced components. Then again i will spend an entire weekend disassembling and reassembling my PC and am having tons of fun with it but thats just me.
so now that we have the off topic out of the way: i am not sure if this makes sony more or less competent.
well at least i didn't buy a new PC since 2002, only ever replaced components. Then again i will spend an entire weekend disassembling and reassembling my PC and am having tons of fun with it but thats just me.
so now that we have the off topic out of the way: i am not sure if this makes sony more or less competent.
You win the thread (derailment). I haven't laughed harder all week.WanderingFool said:
OT: As a PS3 owner, I'm happy to know Sony tried to take more care with my data than some news sources let on.
lol, I think you're making the credentials a little high there. What happens if I find all MMORPGs tedious? Am I just not allowed to be a PC gamer? Well this is news to me, excuse me while I chuck my shitty acer laptop out the window because apparently I'm not welcome in your little club. I'll get over it though, I'm sure. It's cool, I like to hang out with people who can recognise a joke.FranBunnyFFXII said:a Real PC gamer?Woodsey said:Nah, real PC gamers don't buy Alienware.FranBunnyFFXII said:
sony got hacked.
Give Anon what they want.
Thank god imma pc gamer.
Me and my alienware are having a loads of fun playing mmos and mutlitasking.
No service charges....(XBL)no down servers(PSN)...just lots of great, and many times free games with epic graphics and multiscreens(PC)
/continuing childishness
OT: OK then.
What constitutes a REAL PC gamer?
I doubt you've built as many computers as I have, or dedicated as much time and money into video games that I have.
Come back and tell me that once you've
1.Built at least 100 PCs in about 8 1/2 years
2.Spent at least 2200 hours of in game time in an MMORPG or similar game
3.Spent a summer building and selling computers as an out of home job.
4.work as an official wiki editor for an MMORPG
Nope?
I'm the real PC gamer here, youre just a wanna be.
You know I usually get annoyed with people complaining about PC gamer elitists on this site but now I think I agree.
OT: Well I think it's a bit harsh to really blame only Sony regardless. They could have poor security but they're not the douchebags who are actually doing the hacking and a lot of people seem to have forgotten that. Sony are already going to suffer by the loss of face and people will always associate this with them forever now, it's a PR disaster.
Well this is just turning out to be another version of 9/11 conspiracies all over again.
Which is scarier to hear :
a) SONY used outdated software
or
b) SONY were using the best software and stable servers yet still got hacked to hell meaning that really anyone is vulnerable.
People want to make up excuses for why SONY got hacked rather then dealing with the harsh truth which is hackers are getting really good as the value of the online market grows and you will always have to be careful.
Which is scarier to hear :
a) SONY used outdated software
or
b) SONY were using the best software and stable servers yet still got hacked to hell meaning that really anyone is vulnerable.
People want to make up excuses for why SONY got hacked rather then dealing with the harsh truth which is hackers are getting really good as the value of the online market grows and you will always have to be careful.
My question is where all the servers running that version? I doubt it they have tens of thousands of server racks supporting almost 80 million customers around the world there is bound to be a good amount of servers that are running older software or even newer Beta software that the attack could of used to gain access.
Not to mention that hackers are going to get better at hacking as security gets better. I'm actually kind of surprised that something like this didn't happen sooner.TB_Infidel said:
Some people don't want excuses though but need exact info on how the hack happened so our own security can get better. Granted that is a small amount but we are out there.TB_Infidel said:
No, Apache.TheComedown said:
EDIT:
There have been good hackers except for maybe the first hour there were an internet. Just that one(or more) decided to get a bigger fish doesn't mean they have gotten "better". It just means the bigger fish should watch out for fishing hook. If you catch the idea..TB_Infidel said:
/puns
Gee, this topic went off-topic quick.
[sup]Oh, holy shit, I think I nearly just took the moral high ground. I better make a dick joke or something...[/sup]
On topic! (oh, the hypocrisy, I went off-topic myself...) - I never doubted Sony had good software to back themselves up. You can't protect against everything, though. If it were %100 safe Sony would sell all their shares of everything and just go into the data protection business, they'd make a bomb.
FranBunnyFFXII said:
Can't you two just argue in PMs instead of derailing a topic?Woodsey said:
[sup]Oh, holy shit, I think I nearly just took the moral high ground. I better make a dick joke or something...[/sup]
On topic! (oh, the hypocrisy, I went off-topic myself...) - I never doubted Sony had good software to back themselves up. You can't protect against everything, though. If it were %100 safe Sony would sell all their shares of everything and just go into the data protection business, they'd make a bomb.
