So, with ME3 Extended cut ending comming up...

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

It sounds like they're just making the endings a little more different by showing what happens to the galaxy after the Mass relays explode in each one. Unfortunately, that is my absolute smallest problem with the ending.

I see they've also mentioned new dialog that "clarifies" some things(e.g., massive plot holes), but I'm having a hard time figuring out how they could possibly fix the logical beating the Reapers went through with that fucking kid.

And it won't change the fact that the entire final third of the game felt pretty unpolished. The entire last mission is pretty damn bland compared the final missions of both previous entries.

PS: Anyone else remember that bit when you can go around and have a final word with your squadmates, and it gets randomly interrupted in the middle by a totally pointless turret section, as if the designers thought we would nod off if we went five minutes without shooting something? Yeah, that was really stupid.

...Yeah, I'm done now. WAIT, my opinion on the whole thing. Yeah, I'll watch it on youtube. We'll see. Most likely it'll fix a few tiny problems while making the bigger ones that DON'T get fixed only seem bigger. It will result in a massive shit storm (hopefully but probably not smaller then the first one) and I'll have to avoid this site for about 5 months. Short version: It'll be like a band-aid on a decapitation victim.

 

[Emiscary]

I read the funniest thing in an advertisement for ME3 from Gamestop (they are offering it for $40 now).

"It's not about the destination, it's about the journey"

Well once it's been made clear that the destination is the world's biggest compost heap there's not much left to hype is there?

 

[SageRuffin]

I'll get it just to see what it's like. If I feel it doesn't properly pertain to my interpretation of the events that transpired, I'll get rid of it. It's that simple.

 

[natster43]

Oh sweet. I was hoping for one of these threads to pop up since I just beat the game and wanted to talk about it.

What I thought of the ending: Well it was fucking awesome, then the last ten or so minutes happened. After I beat it, I was just shocked at how bad it was, and was pretty angry for about a day or so. Then I pretty much just got over it and accepted it as the conclusion it was going to get, and that even though the end was bad, I loved the journey a lot more than I hate the end, so I still like the series. Now I kinda want to start all over with a new Shepard.

Personally all I want is for them to clear up a lot of the plot holes for my ending (GREEN) and the other endings.

Spoiler

Why was Joker in FTL travel leaving the system when the Green light caught up to him when he was supposed to be fighting along with everyone else like they said the Normandy was going to be doing during the fight?

Why the hell were my crew members on the Normandy, especially Garrus, who just took a Harbinger to his everything?

What will happen now that everyone is part synthetic and organic?

Other problems I would like to be answered:

If the Mass Effect Relays were all destroyed, and a major portion of all of the space faring races were above earth, and earth is mostly a charred wasteland, (especially in red ending, since all the reapers are destroyed and not controlled by shepard, and everything isn't part synthetic and organic) how the fuck is anyone there going to survive in the long run? Especially the Turians and Quarians who are dextroamino and can't eat the same stuff as humans?

How do any of my choices in the last 3 games effect ANYTHING after the end?

Those are all the things I would like answered that I can think of right now.

EDIT: How do I feel about the extended ending: eh, intrigued I guess? Like I want to get it to see it, but it probably won't make me like the ending any more. Really once it comes out, I want them to stop doing stuff with the Mass Effect universe and move on to something else.

 

[natster43]

Also one thing I didn't realize or think about which surprises me, how a total of about 10 minutes could apparently completely make people dislike the series in it's entirety.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

Also one thing I didn't realize or think about which surprises me, how a total of about 10 minutes could apparently completely make people dislike the series in it's entirety.

I have a lot more I wrote. But I'll keep it think for those that are outraged at the ending, it represents to them that Bioware just didn't care, succumbed to EA's deadline pressure, and rushed the game out the window.

Spoiler: other stuff

Otherwise, in an industry where mainstream games don't have much story other than "gruff military man takes orders and fights the bad guys who have no characterization" Bioware is/was seen as the gem of videogame storytelling (excluding Jeniffer Hepler and such). Mass Effect was built-up on the idea of choices and your choices mattering, the ending destroying that idea.

 

[Lunar Templar]

what do i think?

*puts the finishing touches on the new 'ME3 shit storm shelter'*

i think it'll piss people off again, probably for being 'half assed' but that's just my guess

 

[Lunar Templar]

I read the funniest thing in an advertisement for ME3 from Gamestop (they are offering it for $40 now).

"It's not about the destination, it's about the journey"

Well once it's been made clear that the destination is the world's biggest compost heap there's not much left to hype is there?

well, to be painfully blut.

it's ALWAYS about the journey, a good destination is just a side bonus

 

[dessertmonkeyjk]

All I want to know is if there is an actual reason for having a high EMS rating. No, having to pick the preferred option of destoying the reapers for a low EMS doesn't count.

 

[AlexLoxate]

I'm interested to see whether the Indoctrination theory would prove to be valid.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

Bitches will ***** and I wont be using the internet for another month after its released.
And that magic "E" word will be used which will only add petrol to the bonfire that is being fueled by the methane gas from the swirling shit storm.

More Mass Effect is good Mass Effect in my mind, I just wish that'd do more Single Player add on content. Never seen an actual female turian in the game, Garrus kept on bringing up his sister, make something off that BioWare. Do Eeet.

 

[an874]

I think the damage has been done and whatever the extended cut shows will not make a difference.

I second this. I didn't mind the ending's too much, in spite of how poorly written they are (the supposed lack of variety in choices at the end didn't bother me). The game was still fun, the writing was basically good, up until the end, and I've had a ton of fun playing the multiplayer with my friends. Bioware could have not released this and I'd still be okay with it.

 

[Madman123456]

Shepard controls the Reapers, flys them all into a sun but one, in which he now exists. The Shepard reaper will have to work hard to earn any semblance of trust and will never overcome all prejudices.
Shepard destroys the reapers and they are destroyed, bam. Not "all" artificial Life and then Edi apparently survives or something. A "Happy" ending. Though you'd have to take the "happy" with a grain of salt. Its kinda hard to see behind the piles of Corpses on every planet.

This would be possible with or without the most literal deus ex machina i have ever seen.

Another Option, with the Starchild, would be to refuse a Choice. Since Starbrat himself said that the Cycle wont work now, for some Reason, he might as well just go away. His argument sucks anyway.

Yet another Option would be to pull technology out of the huge scrapyard from the end of me2. Combine technologies from different Cycles and you'll have a better superweapon.


I thought of better Solutions to all of the Problems then Bioware did in mere Seconds. And now they want to "explain" things. Now that i'd like to see. I'll watch it on youtube and it'll be good for a laugh.

 

[Mikeyfell]

If it's not Indoctrination Theory I don't even want to hear about it.

Next best thing would be the Lost Island Theory.

But if it's neither of those things I'll just hope that it's Shepard waking up in a hospital bed after the original Normandy blew up. Effectively removing Mass Effect 2 and 3 from existence, implying that the Reaper threat died with Sovereign. It would be a better ending than what we have now.



I'm so spoiled by the Indoctrination Theory that I'm don't even think the ending is a problem any more. I'm still unwilling to forgive the beginning or middle of ME 3, but I did forgive the end. Though if "Extended Cut" disproves the Indoctrination Theory in any way ME 3 will be a total loss, again. As if it wasn't already.


Maybe they were fucking with us this whole time and the "Extended Cut" is just a really big patch that fixes the entire game! Wouldn't that be sweet.

 

[Lupus80]

Good or not, at least with the Extended Cut released maybe, just maybe, Bioware and even EA will have to start answering questions. I'm really looking forward to the day when we hear about Casey Hudson/Marc Walters/some EA or Bioware PR lackey actually try to defend the ending, and try to explain why it wasn't as bad as it was.

Whatever the explainations/excuses are it will be interesting to see how they twist and shrug as they spew out BS. It might not happen this year, but eventually one of them is going to have to talk.

So far Bioware/EA has done nothing to defend their decisions, beyond a vague and useless defense of [i/]artistic integrity[/i]. Maybe they can even try to explain what they mean by saying [i/]that[/i].

As for me, the Extended Cut will be the deciding factor of whether or not I continue following the Mass Effect franchise. I have heard of Hudson's plans to grow the franchise to make movies, comic books, etc.- but all of them would be based before or during the game trilogy timeline. If that is true, and they do not fix the ending, any furture endeavors of the franchise will be dead on arrival as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Don Savik]

I just want to know who thought that having one of the choices be:

"And then all the robots and non-robots fuse together"

was a good idea. Its the dumbest thing I've ever heard in a game ever.


And how does having all the robots kill all the non-robots every 10,000 years so they don't get killed themselves make any goddam sense? How is this justification? "The created will always rebel against the creator" <---MAYBE BECAUSE YOU SLAUGHTER THEM EVERY 10K YEARS? Who WOULDN'T rebel against that?

I think like Dues Ex HR outsourcing the boss fights, Bioware outsourced the ending to someone else. Its the only way it makes any sense logically.

 

[LordFisheh]

Also one thing I didn't realize or think about which surprises me, how a total of about 10 minutes could apparently completely make people dislike the series in it's entirety.

Spoiler

At least for me, it's because I loved the universe they made and then they blew it all up. Even without the starvation theories and such, the relays and Citadel are gone - it's not the same universe. They even said the same in an interview I remember before ME2, to give an idea - something like 'of course you can go back to the Citadel, it wouldn't be Mass Effect without the Citadel!'

As well as that, there's the fact that the ending hangs over the other games. Save a guy? Doesn't matter, he's killed by Reapers. Have Wrex lead his people to a better tomorrow? Nope, he'll never see them again because he's stuck on Earth. And the best of all, (no, I'm not a talimancer) is the brilliant irony of going through all that to bring the Quarians home and create peace only for the whole fleet to be stranded over a lifetime's journey away.

I really don't get the appeal of primitivist endings to the people who write science fiction...

 

[LordFisheh]

And how does having all the robots kill all the non-robots every 10,000 years so they don't get killed themselves make any goddam sense? How is this justification? "The created will always rebel against the creator" <---MAYBE BECAUSE YOU SLAUGHTER THEM EVERY 10K YEARS? Who WOULDN'T rebel against that?

I think the idea was that synthetics would wipe out -all- organic life, as in down to the last cell, and create a sterile waste.

Which is still a terrible motivation for the Reapers, as if we're meant to be super emotionally attached not even to the characters, the universe, or the civilisations but to the concept of carbon based life.

Oh no my precious beautiful ~carbon~! If they win no living thing will ever be based on carbon chains again and they'll use some other robot molecule...

 

[TimeLord]

Well I liked the ending to start with. So adding extra stuff is always good. The ending isn't what means the most to me. It's the game as a whole. Your choices don't matter? Well the outcome of the Geth/Quarian war hinges on you making key decisions in ME2. Will the Destiny Accession join the attack on the Reapers? Depends how you ended ME1. Will Mordin sing his Scientist Salarian song when curing the Genophage? Dialogue choices in ME2 dictate that.
So yeah, I was satisfied with ME3's ending.

And yes, I played all 3 Mass Effect games and bought all the DLC for ME2 and ME3 so far. So anyone that claims I'm not a proper fan for liking the ending and not "experiencing the whole franchise" can go jump off the Citadel.

 

[alik44]

Well the upside is that they canot go any lower so anything now will be a step up from the ending