Someone please stop Tim Burton.
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Which also raises the question that if people hate his style of making movies than why do they go see his movies? I mean a lot of the people who said they hate it also hated his other movies as well. If that is the case perhaps they should not go see his movies anymore.Tdc2182 said:
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I swear to God, Tim Burton is on a serious acid trip every time he writes a script or is directing. I am nearly sure he is schizophrenic or really crazy.Colour-Scientist said:
I just want Butron to start comming up with fresh ideas. I didn't MIND Charlie and the chocolate factory, but I am getting bored of allways seeing the same people and similar style. I repeat, get some new original screenplays instead of remakes and I wount loose all my interest of him..
Actually, Il reiterate: he can still play around with his own style (I remember loving Edward Scissorhands and I didn't mind Sleepy Hollow. The Burton Batman was great as well), just have some new stories to tell...
Actually, Il reiterate: he can still play around with his own style (I remember loving Edward Scissorhands and I didn't mind Sleepy Hollow. The Burton Batman was great as well), just have some new stories to tell...
Tim Burton is a good director. But only when he is doing his own films. All of Burton's worst films were adaptations of an established franchise.
Whoever thought that a Burton-esque Planet of the Apes would be a good idea has a couple screws loose.
Some of the films he does just don't fit with his style of filmmaking.
His best works, Nightmare (he was the producer, but it was his original idea), Corpse Bride, Beetlejuice, and Sleepy Hollow, are all mostly original works.
Yes, Sleepy Hollow was a legend, but Burton fleshed it out into a coherent narrative, rather than just a scary story.
And yes, Corpse Bride was based off of a Jewish folk tale, but the same rules apply.
Whoever thought that a Burton-esque Planet of the Apes would be a good idea has a couple screws loose.
Some of the films he does just don't fit with his style of filmmaking.
His best works, Nightmare (he was the producer, but it was his original idea), Corpse Bride, Beetlejuice, and Sleepy Hollow, are all mostly original works.
Yes, Sleepy Hollow was a legend, but Burton fleshed it out into a coherent narrative, rather than just a scary story.
And yes, Corpse Bride was based off of a Jewish folk tale, but the same rules apply.
sorry not to agree with most of you, passive-aggressive annoyance that I am, but I really have enjoyed Burton's films. they're dark, whimsical, and unusually designed, and definitely stand out as unusual when it seems that alot of other movies have become interchangeable. the visual appeal and acting of Alice in Wonderland was enough for me to overlook the sadly overdone "final battle sequence", and Sweeney Todd was good when you overlooked the missing choral bits. Yeah, Tim Burton and Depp do seem to skip hand-in-hand a little much, but Burton's creative direction and Depp's style work together so well that I enjoy it enough to not mind. 
I just hope that he releases something completely his own soon, since he's done the best work when all the fans aren't crying over the desecration of their favorite material.
I just hope that he releases something completely his own soon, since he's done the best work when all the fans aren't crying over the desecration of their favorite material.
From what I've seen in the trailers, it was both. It's got Cheshire Cat, doesn't it? That's from Wonderland. But the White Queen is from Through the Looking Glass. That's one thing I hate about anything containing Alice, besides the actual books: they always combine two books with different plots and make them one movie.Carlston said:
What people don't seem to get about Alice in Wonderland is that it is dark and edgy. It's already very creepy if you're reading it the right way, without being terrifying to kids who just want a cute little book with tea parties in it. That, to me, is the brilliance of the series. All of the "dark and edgy" adaptions of it do nothing but ruin the balance. Lewis Carroll made it subtle. Remind me again why you would ruin that. Is it just to show the world that Alice in Wonderland was creepy to you? Well, it was creepy to most people. That's the point. Now shut up.
On topic, I've enjoyed Tim Burton's films, and so have many others. They shouldn't be stopped. But he ought to do something original. Honestly, there are some things that just don't deserve to be made more gritty and dark. Alice in Wonderland was one, and the Wizard of Oz is another. Just...no.
I think the main problem with Alice and Wonderland was that it was a disney movie. They probably wouldn't let him do all that he wanted with the movie, I don't know I haven't seen it. It seems like with Tim Burton you just have to wait and see what he comes up with.
I liked it when he does something original like Edward Scissorhands, Big Fish and Nightmare before Christmas.
Let's just say that remakes aren't a good thing with him.
Let's just say that remakes aren't a good thing with him.
Yeah, I agree. It's not like you'd wear a style of clothing that you don't like, just to say "I don't like this clothing and here's why" you just get the clothing that suits you.AC10 said:
I actually loved Alice. I thought Helena Bonham Carter was hilarious as the Red Queen, and I found the new hatter delightful. I wasn't at all impressed with Alice's performance, and Ann Hathaway as the White Queen was grating, but overall I loved the film. It was visually engaging, mildly immersive and generally just a fun film. Not a testament to the power of cinema or anything, just a good time at the theater.
It certainly didn't "ruin" Alice for me or decrease my enjoyment of the books or previous adaptations. It was even mostly spiral free.
It certainly didn't "ruin" Alice for me or decrease my enjoyment of the books or previous adaptations. It was even mostly spiral free.
I'm indifferent to the whole thing, but I'm really tired of that horrible actress who's fucking him (you all know who I'm talking about) getting acting roles in all his films. She ruined Sweeney Todd, and she just can't act, God I hate her so much!Colour-Scientist said:
Carlston said:No thanks. I guess I didn't make my post very clear...I was specifically referring to the people who go "Woah! This Alice in Wonderland thing is really kind of dark and creepy! I never noticed that before. I'm going to help everybody else realize that by expanding on the book by making a [insert thing here] with something like this in it:"Marble Dragon said:On a side note, I've never played American Mcgee's Alice, although I do intend to someday. And yes, there is a justification in the plot for making Wonderland dark and creepy. I know. But this is the best example I could think of for an Alice character that was almost caricatured in its creepiness. (The above picture scared the hell out of me the first time I saw it. No joke.)
Original Batman
Planet of the Apes
Sleepy Hollow
Mars Attacks
Those are the only movies of his I like, the rest are all subpar and I think he is over rated as a movie maker. And I don't like him personally as well.
Planet of the Apes
Sleepy Hollow
Mars Attacks
Those are the only movies of his I like, the rest are all subpar and I think he is over rated as a movie maker. And I don't like him personally as well.