Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - All Of It
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Jesus christ this is bad news for us, luckily for me a got new card a few months ago and hadn't updated the details on psn so hopefully my card details are safe, that said I'll will be keeping a tight eye on the money going out of my account for the next view months. Well done hackers I'd love to hear your justification for all this, and it better be a damn sight better than "they tookz r linux n homebrew aways."
yes no doubt that this is huge. My comment were for all the people acting like a massive company has never had user information compromised.Spangles said:
Ouch. This is going to seriously hurt their reputation. I'm glad I've no ties to the current gen Sony consoles but I know of at least two people who this will affect directly.
It must've been a damn good coordinated attack to work, but they can at least be confident that they do a better job than my bloody government who actively loses countless personal data records because of incompetence alone.
Good luck PSN users.
It must've been a damn good coordinated attack to work, but they can at least be confident that they do a better job than my bloody government who actively loses countless personal data records because of incompetence alone.
Good luck PSN users.
well, I warned my friends who have PSN accounts, and that's really as far as my interest in this goes. It sucks, and I know if this happened to XBL or steam, I would be pissed.
Honestly, yes, people have a right to be pissed at Sony. People trusted them with their information, and they lost it. That being said, it's still the hackers fault, but you guys REALLY shouldn't be so quick to defend Sony. I sure as hell doubt anyone would be defending Microsoft if XBL had been hacked to this degree.
Honestly, yes, people have a right to be pissed at Sony. People trusted them with their information, and they lost it. That being said, it's still the hackers fault, but you guys REALLY shouldn't be so quick to defend Sony. I sure as hell doubt anyone would be defending Microsoft if XBL had been hacked to this degree.
While the theft of this much personal data is of course very worrying I am seriously surprised at the info that they managed to get. As a programmer myself any password information should be 1 way encrypted. That means you can only check if the info supplied when you log in is correct but its utterly impossible to get the data out again.
For account password to be compromised it has to be some serious negligence on the part of Sony.
I shudder to thing how flimsy there security was.
For account password to be compromised it has to be some serious negligence on the part of Sony.
I shudder to thing how flimsy there security was.
Actually this is a reason why sony is at fault for the security breach. If, as is being speculated by some, jailbroken firmware enabled the breach, it means that Sony's security system trusted that client's PS3s were secure and would always be so. This breaks a FUNDAMENTAL tenant of computer security. Designers are supposed to always assume that some of the client's systems will be compromised. If one compromised client can cause a system-wide break.... well that is.... words fail me... I literally cannot find a way to describe how irresponsible that is. So please, this is the fault of Sony and whoever stole the data. Don't try to let them off the hook by blaming anyone else.Awexsome said:
Also, anyone who has a PSN account: CALL YOUR BANK RIGHT NOW. Do not wait. Have them issue you a new card, especially if you use a debit card since they do not generally have fraud protection. The hassle is definitely less than trying to fix identity-theft later.
Eh... Blaming Geohot for this is like blaming Alfred Nobel (Guy who invented dynamite) for artillery. He created it to help and improve lives (I.e. applications in mining); it wasn't his fault when someone else took it and used it to kill people.
And just(/almost) as much blame lies with Sony as the hackers; the data they held was their responsibility to keep secure and they failed in that responsibility.
And just(/almost) as much blame lies with Sony as the hackers; the data they held was their responsibility to keep secure and they failed in that responsibility.
While the theft of this much personal data is of course very worrying I am seriously surprised at the info that they managed to get. As a programmer myself any password information should be 1 way encrypted. That means you can only check if the info supplied when you log in is correct but its utterly impossible to get the data out again.
For account password to be compromised it has to be some serious negligence on the part of Sony.
I shudder to thing how flimsy there security was.
For account password to be compromised it has to be some serious negligence on the part of Sony.
I shudder to thing how flimsy there security was.
Calm down people for crying out loud.
1. The hacker/s MAY POSSIBLY have accessed this information (WE CANNOT RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY).
2. Ironically something on this scale is safer for anyone who had their information compromised i.e. if a hacker successfully targets your computer then you are screwed, if a hacker gains access to the information of 70 MILLION users then even if he were to rob 1,000 people then that still leaves you with 99.9986% chance of not getting ripped off.
3. The hacker may not have gotten into the system on the hunt for such information (not that unreasonable considering how difficult it is SUPPOSED to be to get it), and so may have all this information that he has no idea of what to do with.
Sony are saying watch out for people ASKING YOU for information, not cancel your cards now. Still, many of you may now not think Sony a great source of information on online security...
Change your password, that should be only your PSN password unless you use the same password for various things (which you shouldn't).
Your info is 'out there' now, it probably already was out there for months only you didn't know about it. Admittedly perhaps not in such detail and in one such neat a package.
Having said all that I still say fuck Sony with a shoehorn. Absolutely dogshit security protocols, seriously. Nice to see they have called in some professionals at least.
Hackers will always hack for various reasons, I can sympathise some regional teddy bear store for fucking up with sensitive data like that, but Sony is a multi-national corporation. Too much money spent on lawyers and not enough on network technicians, fucking zero out of ten for effort.
1. The hacker/s MAY POSSIBLY have accessed this information (WE CANNOT RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY).
2. Ironically something on this scale is safer for anyone who had their information compromised i.e. if a hacker successfully targets your computer then you are screwed, if a hacker gains access to the information of 70 MILLION users then even if he were to rob 1,000 people then that still leaves you with 99.9986% chance of not getting ripped off.
3. The hacker may not have gotten into the system on the hunt for such information (not that unreasonable considering how difficult it is SUPPOSED to be to get it), and so may have all this information that he has no idea of what to do with.
Sony are saying watch out for people ASKING YOU for information, not cancel your cards now. Still, many of you may now not think Sony a great source of information on online security...
Change your password, that should be only your PSN password unless you use the same password for various things (which you shouldn't).
Your info is 'out there' now, it probably already was out there for months only you didn't know about it. Admittedly perhaps not in such detail and in one such neat a package.
Having said all that I still say fuck Sony with a shoehorn. Absolutely dogshit security protocols, seriously. Nice to see they have called in some professionals at least.
Hackers will always hack for various reasons, I can sympathise some regional teddy bear store for fucking up with sensitive data like that, but Sony is a multi-national corporation. Too much money spent on lawyers and not enough on network technicians, fucking zero out of ten for effort.
It's stillan outside source getting a hold of information that the company should have been protecting.Sir Ollie said: