Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - All Of It

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*goes to check his credit card* I knew the ps3 would come back to bite me in the ass someday. God damn asshole hackers
 

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Cliff_m85 said:
wooty said:
This is precisely why I hate hackers, if any money goes missing from my account then I'll raise hell. Pathetic that an awful lot of people get inconvenienced because someones probably seen too many Die Hard or Matrix movies.
I knew this one girl who basically stole computers from a computer club by threatening them with photos she obtained by forcing a member of the club on her friend. She also hung out with another girl who hacked a computer game to win a challenge.
I see what you did there
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
Good going, Sony.

Your system is about as stable and secure as... something instable and insecure.
OH SNAPPLE!!! That's a burn right there man XD

Hehehe Sigh, Sony is really pissing me off almost as much as the hackers.

So yeah um about those Hackers. Who in Gods name here feels that any thing they do is justified now!?!!?

I dare you to step up I double dog dare ya'll to step up muthaf*%ka! Say Hacker one more Goddamn time! hehehe good ol Samuel L. Jackson
 

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Pyrokinesis said:
Guess they want their facts straight before pulling the plug too right? Compromise just isnt as colorful unless they have their facts straight. Or maybe they didnt know right? I mean who keeps an eye on all that important personal data... ha.. its only important data that could be used for malicious purposes on our customers, why keep an extra eye on it?
Again, you're assuming that it's as simple as pulling a plug. Hackers CAN get into systems undetected. They've uncovered government documents, have they not? Classified documents that are made certain are secure? Hackers can bypass whatever they want to bypass, if they really put the effort into it. Your assumptions are laughable.
 

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Nurb said:
Ha, way
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Dorkmaster Flek said:
Awexsome said:
Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.
The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.

It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.
PS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into court
No, they don't get to. Deal with it.

Because a few bad apples spoils the bunch. A sad truth but look what happened here. Blame the people who would exploit it if Sony opened the doors to everyone, not Sony for trying to protect everyone's security.
 

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Don't blame Sony, ain't their fault hackers stole our shit.

well, good news at least nothing on my account is actually valuable.

really, I didn't post any credit card number, I rarely use online (because I don't have many online games for the PS3), and my password isn't really all that precious.

what TEH HAXORZ wanted was precious ID to get money from, all they got was some Bull Crap I made.

Heh heh...
 

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The people who support this and are saying that it's Sony's fault are idiots ! Because no company has a system that is 100 % Hack-proof just for the fact that if you have a company and you have a to-notch security system there will always be a (or a douzen) nerds who will try to break into your system not to steal shit..but simply to prove that they can do it and if they can do it they will probably teach other people with bad intentions on how to do it. Rules are there to be respected but they are also there to be broken. It's like if you would build a fence...build it and they will come...build an even bigger fence...more people will try to find a way to take it down JUST to prove that they can do it and if they make it they will say : «HA ! Your fence is not good enough to prevent me from breaking in» and when you fix the problem...they wil find another breach .
 

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Awexsome said:
Nurb said:
Ha, way
Awexsome said:
Dorkmaster Flek said:
Awexsome said:
Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.
The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.

It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.
PS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into court
No, they don't get to. Deal with it.

Because a few bad apples spoils the bunch. A sad truth but look what happened here. Blame the people who would exploit it if Sony opened the doors to everyone, not Sony for trying to protect everyone's security.
You do realize that the entire reason people are blaming Sony is that, assuming the code Geohot published really did cause this, Sony effectively had no network security, right? It shouldn't even have been possible for people using modded PS3s to do this at all. Note that people using PCs as PCs have yet to get the entire set of Steam's user information, nor have jailbroken iphones been used to take down the App store.
 

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insanelich said:
Awexsome said:
Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
So you're blaming Geohot and "hackers"... for stealing your credit card data? Hah.

Nope, matey. This is just good old fashioned online criminals.
You mean good old fashioned online criminals that hack to obtain access to encrypted information? Or do you mean the good old fashioned online criminals that go into the interwebs and mug computers at - - - - - ooo (shiv) point? (He he, I made a binary code joke, he he)

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The number of assumptions being made in this thread would be amusing if it wasn't so mind-boggling.

"This is all Sony's fault; their security is shit"- Even Alcatraz had an escape; there's no evidence on how long this took or how it was done.
"This is all Geohotz's fault; they obviously got in by a modded PS3"- if this is true then so would be the above statement.
"This was obviously done by Anonymous; they're hackers, this was done by hackers, therefore it was them"- Sort of like saying all gamers are the same, hm? Might be good to read up [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(term)] on just how broad the term "hacker" is these days.

I'd say "everybody relax and wait for solid information" but I guess the Internet just doesn't do that sort of thing.
 

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Pyrokinesis said:
Did you actually read the article or get distracted by the shiny title? plenty "believe, maybe, possibly" no DID.
There's no need for the lip, buddy!

I'm simply stating that it's not too weird that people are going a bit apeshit over this news.
 

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I mostly paid for stuff on PSN through those cards you can buy in shops, but have made a couple of transactions with my debit card. So yeah, I'll have to check that out definitely. I usually check my bank details a couple of times a day though and after reading this article and checking my bank details again, everything seems to be fine at the moment and no suspicious transactions have taken place. Not that there is usually much money in there but that is besides the point, of course I'll take necessary procedures like changing passwords etc.

Vanbael said:
Jazoni89 said:
Are debit cards in risk too, that's what i wanna know.
Debit cards are linked to some file in your bank account, most likely checking. (Like mine is.) They can be denied though if funds are lacking. What you can do is transfer all the funds from your checking into savings or some other account you may have. But I would tell your bank to keep an eye out for suspicious charges to your debit card.
Yes, definitely do this. I'm planning to visit my bank soon anyway so I'll bring the situation up then.

The one thing that has always baffled me about hackers is the reason why they do it. It sounds stupid I know, yes some hackers play the game just for this kind of reason, to screw innocent people over and potentially create a horrible situation for them. Surely they have something better to do with their lives rather than try and ruin everyone else's. Then again looking at the current situation, maybe not.
 

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What about the public fisting?
HAHA ! You're right ! Everybody stop talking about Sony...Shit just got real...there's people who are shoving their fists up our asses in public :p !
 

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I wonder if its the same people who hacked the Epsco(?) mail system.

Anyway, I change my info on my PSN every so often, and I just changed it again not that long ago. So pretty much anything they took is useless to them.
 

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Well. I'm glad the card I had here expired a year ago and I pretty much just switched to buying the pre-paid cards. Otherwise I'd be losing my mind right now.

Thanks hackers! Fighting for consumer rights the right way! I recall this post that was made on a thread earlier in the week on this very topic.

"but If this is Anon... I kinda like their style here. Set up a blockade to prevent people from accessing their precious PSN. When people arn't willing to boycott Sony by choice, Lets force them."

Yeah, eat dick guy. Eat dick.
 

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Pyrokinesis said:
Casual Shinji said:
Pyrokinesis said:
oldtaku said:
I am just boggled here at the number of people who seem to think that someone breaking into Sony's central servers *must* be related to being able to run homebrew on the PS3. It could be, but 'hackers' are not some big organized blob and the same people who want to pirate software are not usually the ones who'd want to steal credit card info. If you know the server IP addresses (and they do, very easy to get from tcpdump, etc) this is the sort of thing that would be easier to do from a PC.

If it's true that a compromised PS3 was used to suck everyone's data out of PSN's central servers through (say) unchecked id queries, then this is incredibly epic security failure on Sony's part. That they seem to have been storing passwords and not hashes is another one. I wonder what would have happened if you chose 'drop table; lol' as your PSN id?

Its because everyone assumes the data was stolen. Sony never once says the data was stolen on that there was the potential for it to be. Everyone just jumps of their rocker and stomps on the conclusion that its a malicious hacker after their credit card when no one said that anything was actually stolen.
Well, when you figure this news item is titled "Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - ALL OF IT" it's no surprise people are worried that their private PSN info has been stolen - ALL OF IT.
Did you actually read the article or get distracted by the shiny title? plenty "believe, maybe, possibly" no DID.
Phony are essentially saying that they have had a breach, but use words such as 'believe' and 'may'when talking on usage of data on compromised systems, not all systems.

Not sure if anyone has had any details used, which is important.
As people we lose data all the time, to no consequence, so lets not explode quite yet.
And breath out.
 

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Oh someone is so getting sued for this.
It's been established that if you post online a way to pirate games, Sony nails you to the wall. Steal the personal information of 70,000,000 people who trusted Sony and make them look like a dope? I can't imagine.

Liam Neeson said:
I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
Awexsome said:
Nurb said:
Ha, way
Awexsome said:
Dorkmaster Flek said:
Awexsome said:
Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.
The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.

It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.
PS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into court
No, they don't get to. Deal with it.

Because a few bad apples spoils the bunch. A sad truth but look what happened here. Blame the people who would exploit it if Sony opened the doors to everyone, not Sony for trying to protect everyone's security.
You do realize that the entire reason people are blaming Sony is that, assuming the code Geohot published really did cause this, Sony effectively had no network security, right? It shouldn't even have been possible for people using modded PS3s to do this at all. Note that people using PCs as PCs have yet to get the entire set of Steam's user information, nor have jailbroken iphones been used to take down the App store.
It wasn't possible to do this until the code was released. And obviously looks like hackers beat Sony to the punch to try and fix what their whole network had been succeeding at for years.

I don't blame Sony for not having a solution to a problem that shouldn't have happened.

Maybe the next solution will be only one designated IP address will be allowed to access a PSN account without going through a long process to change it. That the kind of freedom you wanted Geohotz? eh?