*goes to check his credit card* I knew the ps3 would come back to bite me in the ass someday. God damn asshole hackers
I see what you did thereCliff_m85 said:I knew this one girl who basically stole computers from a computer club by threatening them with photos she obtained by forcing a member of the club on her friend. She also hung out with another girl who hacked a computer game to win a challenge.wooty said:This is precisely why I hate hackers, if any money goes missing from my account then I'll raise hell. Pathetic that an awful lot of people get inconvenienced because someones probably seen too many Die Hard or Matrix movies.
OH SNAPPLE!!! That's a burn right there man XDJourneyThroughHell said:Good going, Sony.
Your system is about as stable and secure as... something instable and insecure.
Again, you're assuming that it's as simple as pulling a plug. Hackers CAN get into systems undetected. They've uncovered government documents, have they not? Classified documents that are made certain are secure? Hackers can bypass whatever they want to bypass, if they really put the effort into it. Your assumptions are laughable.Pyrokinesis said:Guess they want their facts straight before pulling the plug too right? Compromise just isnt as colorful unless they have their facts straight. Or maybe they didnt know right? I mean who keeps an eye on all that important personal data... ha.. its only important data that could be used for malicious purposes on our customers, why keep an extra eye on it?
No, they don't get to. Deal with it.Nurb said:Ha, wayPS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into courtAwexsome said:The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.Dorkmaster Flek said:You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.Awexsome said:Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...
Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.
You do realize that the entire reason people are blaming Sony is that, assuming the code Geohot published really did cause this, Sony effectively had no network security, right? It shouldn't even have been possible for people using modded PS3s to do this at all. Note that people using PCs as PCs have yet to get the entire set of Steam's user information, nor have jailbroken iphones been used to take down the App store.Awexsome said:No, they don't get to. Deal with it.Nurb said:Ha, wayPS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into courtAwexsome said:The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.Dorkmaster Flek said:You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.Awexsome said:Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...
Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.
Because a few bad apples spoils the bunch. A sad truth but look what happened here. Blame the people who would exploit it if Sony opened the doors to everyone, not Sony for trying to protect everyone's security.
You mean good old fashioned online criminals that hack to obtain access to encrypted information? Or do you mean the good old fashioned online criminals that go into the interwebs and mug computers at - - - - - ooo (shiv) point? (He he, I made a binary code joke, he he)insanelich said:So you're blaming Geohot and "hackers"... for stealing your credit card data? Hah.Awexsome said:Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...
Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
Nope, matey. This is just good old fashioned online criminals.
There's no need for the lip, buddy!Pyrokinesis said:Did you actually read the article or get distracted by the shiny title? plenty "believe, maybe, possibly" no DID.
Yes, definitely do this. I'm planning to visit my bank soon anyway so I'll bring the situation up then.Vanbael said:Debit cards are linked to some file in your bank account, most likely checking. (Like mine is.) They can be denied though if funds are lacking. What you can do is transfer all the funds from your checking into savings or some other account you may have. But I would tell your bank to keep an eye out for suspicious charges to your debit card.Jazoni89 said:Are debit cards in risk too, that's what i wanna know.
HAHA ! You're right ! Everybody stop talking about Sony...Shit just got real...there's people who are shoving their fists up our asses in public !greenitedaze said:What about the public fisting?
Phony are essentially saying that they have had a breach, but use words such as 'believe' and 'may'when talking on usage of data on compromised systems, not all systems.Pyrokinesis said:Did you actually read the article or get distracted by the shiny title? plenty "believe, maybe, possibly" no DID.Casual Shinji said:Well, when you figure this news item is titled "Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - ALL OF IT" it's no surprise people are worried that their private PSN info has been stolen - ALL OF IT.Pyrokinesis said:oldtaku said:I am just boggled here at the number of people who seem to think that someone breaking into Sony's central servers *must* be related to being able to run homebrew on the PS3. It could be, but 'hackers' are not some big organized blob and the same people who want to pirate software are not usually the ones who'd want to steal credit card info. If you know the server IP addresses (and they do, very easy to get from tcpdump, etc) this is the sort of thing that would be easier to do from a PC.
If it's true that a compromised PS3 was used to suck everyone's data out of PSN's central servers through (say) unchecked id queries, then this is incredibly epic security failure on Sony's part. That they seem to have been storing passwords and not hashes is another one. I wonder what would have happened if you chose 'drop table; lol' as your PSN id?
Its because everyone assumes the data was stolen. Sony never once says the data was stolen on that there was the potential for it to be. Everyone just jumps of their rocker and stomps on the conclusion that its a malicious hacker after their credit card when no one said that anything was actually stolen.
It's been established that if you post online a way to pirate games, Sony nails you to the wall. Steal the personal information of 70,000,000 people who trusted Sony and make them look like a dope? I can't imagine.Reed Spacer said:Oh someone is so getting sued for this.
Liam Neeson said:I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
It wasn't possible to do this until the code was released. And obviously looks like hackers beat Sony to the punch to try and fix what their whole network had been succeeding at for years.Owyn_Merrilin said:You do realize that the entire reason people are blaming Sony is that, assuming the code Geohot published really did cause this, Sony effectively had no network security, right? It shouldn't even have been possible for people using modded PS3s to do this at all. Note that people using PCs as PCs have yet to get the entire set of Steam's user information, nor have jailbroken iphones been used to take down the App store.Awexsome said:No, they don't get to. Deal with it.Nurb said:Ha, wayPS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into courtAwexsome said:The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.Dorkmaster Flek said:You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.Awexsome said:Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...
Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.
Because a few bad apples spoils the bunch. A sad truth but look what happened here. Blame the people who would exploit it if Sony opened the doors to everyone, not Sony for trying to protect everyone's security.