Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - All Of It

[killamanhunter]

for those of you who are complaining people are switching sides, heres the thing: most people take the winning side no matter what, say you're watching a hockey game and the score is 8-0 (****in sharks) anyway you'd probably root for the team up by 8 rather than the team who probably could have won the series there if they weren't idiots...

point is you take the winning side, hackers fighting for your right to homebrew your PS3 as long as you don't go on PSN to Sony trying to get PSN back up and secure as much of your stuff as possible.

 

[DaHero]

So all you people that supported GeoHotz and Anonymous? Congratulations...you just helped this happen. Anonymous planned this, put it into practice...just not the one splinter of Anonymous that Escapist has heard and quoted. THIS is hat happens when people want freedom, they lose security.

 

[greenitedaze]

While forcefully giving it to every future gamer in the bum, because we're all screwed now.[/quote]

Weren't we all screwed to start with?

 

[TimeLord]

Well I know the first thing I'm going to be doing when the network is back up. Removing my credit card and buying PSN cards from now on.

 

[Vanbael]

Cripes. I would say I'm happy I'm a PC gamer, but if PSN got steamrolled this badly, who's to say the same thing couldn't happen to Steam?

Exactly, all major networks should be worried about this. Steam and Live shouldn't be watching idly and laughing as they have a multimillion dollar network behind them.

 

[Jeronus]

I'm not mad at you, Sony. I'm just disappointed. Anger should be reserved for the people who took the information. Sony, I am going to have to turn my back on you.

http://youtu.be/fR6exO2nJDs

 

[Krion_Vark]

While Sony should have had better protection of this, I love how so many are blaming them and not the hackers...

THIS. THISTHISSOMUCHTHIS. WHAT THE FUCK. THE AMOUNT OF THIS IS SO MUCH TRUTH THAT IT IS SUPER THIS, GUYS.

Fucking idiots.. If you're blaming Sony for this, you're retarded. Plain and simple. Hackers need to shut the fuck up and stop being malicious thieves..

The blame goes for both. Sony for not having better security and for having it take a week to tell us about the leak. The hackers for cracking the system and stealing all the data.

There are three types of hackers Black Hats, White Hats and Grey Hats. You can probably guess which is which from the colors and this is definitely the work of Black hats if they start to sell all the data. Grey hats if they return all stolen data to Sony. White Hats if we find out that Sony hired the hackers to try and take down the system.

 

[Tony2077]

only a week or so left and then i can change my password to whythefuckamistillhere or something like that not really i haven't decide yet

 

[mireko]

Okay, canceled my CC. Thanks for making life difficult, PSN.

 

[Renowned Wolfman]

So all you people that supported GeoHotz and Anonymous? Congratulations...you just helped this happen. Anonymous planned this, put it into practice...just not the one splinter of Anonymous that Escapist has heard and quoted. THIS is hat happens when people want freedom, they lose security.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin

 

[thiosk]

Just hope it wasn't the guy you called a ****** ****** **** ****** back when you were 15.

He remembers, and he's probably going to ******** your ************* ******* looking *** face.

 

[Azrael the Cat]

Online criminals who wouldn't have been able to do this without the help of Geohotz. And "hackers" those hackers are the criminals. They are one and the same. Period.

haha, seriously? Just because the verb describing what Geohot has done is the same used to describe infomation theft now he's responsible for this?

he distributed private commercial network security information for the purpose of circumventing the owner and operators security policies procedures and controls. what we see here today was a clearly foreseeable outcome of his reckless actions. even if he did not steal any data or penetrate the secure networks himself, if so much as one perpetrator of this activity indicates that "yeah they got the security keys used as part of Geohotz's little broadcast", then good ole GH has himself a rather large problem. Much larger than the lawsuit he settled with SONY. And his settlement agreement with SONY will not protect him when state and federal attorney generals get involved looking for someone to nail.

Translates post: 'I don't know anything about criminal law, but I'll pretend that I do for forum gangsta points'.

Even the vaguest knowledge of criminal law (and given that I spent a decade working as a criminal lawyer, my knowledge of criminal proceedings in western nations isn't exactly vague) would inform you that even if Geohotz posted the code with a sign saying 'this will enable you to hack Sony's systems and steal the PSN private info', he still wouldn't be criminally liable for this case. Civilly liable, yes, but that's a moot point given that he is already getting sued for more than he could possibly pay. As for his civil liability in this actual case, well nothing has arisen thus far that would give any risk of liability, and there's no point even speculating on civil liability unless something arises that would prove causation to a civil standard.

 

[DaHero]

So all you people that supported GeoHotz and Anonymous? Congratulations...you just helped this happen. Anonymous planned this, put it into practice...just not the one splinter of Anonymous that Escapist has heard and quoted. THIS is hat happens when people want freedom, they lose security.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin

Modifying a console isn't exactly an essential liberty...but what the heck...we agree and that's what matters.

 

[Nurb]

Ha, way

Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.

You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.

The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.

It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.

PS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into court

No, they don't get to. Deal with it.

Because a few bad apples spoils the bunch. A sad truth but look what happened here. Blame the people who would exploit it if Sony opened the doors to everyone, not Sony for trying to protect everyone's security.

Yes. they do. It's a computer, people have a right to look into how their computers work at the code level and talk about it. If they want so much control over people's property, then they can charge less for it or lease it for 10 bucks a month.

Just because people make viruses for PCs doesn't mean software engineers should be thrown in prison for figuring out and sharing how the window OS works, and you don't see car companies dragging car enthusiasts into court for cracking their car computer to tweak performance.

So yea, Sony isn't special and they're no different than any other hardware manufacturer. Deal with that. Damn kids are being brainwashed into defending some corporate bully who can't even encrypt their customer data. Not even banks let hackers get away with the entire database and they're hacked all the time.

So all you people that supported GeoHotz and Anonymous? Congratulations...you just helped this happen. Anonymous planned this, put it into practice...just not the one splinter of Anonymous that Escapist has heard and quoted. THIS is hat happens when people want freedom, they lose security.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin

Modifying a console isn't exactly an essential liberty...but what the heck...we agree and that's what matters.

Having complete control over your own property is very much essential liberty. Even sharing information without punishment is essential liberty and the only people liable are those that misuse the information themselves. That's why it's perfectly legal to sell "The Anarchist's Cookbook" which tells people how to make bombs. Having knowledge isn't a crime, but thomgs people do with it can be.

 

[Renowned Wolfman]

Spite that I am fortunate to not own a PSN or anything related- I feel awful for those who do. This is why I dislike Hackers, because they take advantage of other people for their own personal gain.
It pretty much makes sense on why we can't have nice things, you know? This will only make Sony and perhaps other Companies more strict and treat customers harsher like we're criminals. Admit it - this is going to get messy and we only have ourselves to blame.

Please don't throw all hackers into the same group. not all hackers are malicious.

 

[SuperSuperSuperGuy]

Screw you, Sony. Screw you more, hackers. If I find out that someone is using the information on MY ACCOUNT to buy something, I will go on a murderous rampage.

 

[dmalone569]

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[pokepuke]

It was secure and stable until Hotz decided to stick his dick into the mechanism. Fucker makes me mad.

Because you're a security expert and not a random dude on the internets.

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And to those saying this had nothing to do with GeoHotz, it might not have had anything to do with him jailbreaking it, but I can almost guarantee it had something to do with that situation. Clearly they have the ability to do it, and just needed the motivation.

"Almost" isn't good enough.