Sony Bashes Microsoft's "Check Writing" Policy Again
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Ive always been a fan of Sony.. However after the PS2 started to die AND I MEAN DIE! They went and released some over priced piece of shit that should cost half as much and isnt worth my money.. This is why i dislike Sony now.. But if there shit together and make good/AFFORDABLE stuff then i would have no problem throwing out my Box of shit other known as 360 for a PS3.. However nintendo has failed long ago.. This is why i would never buy a Wii.. They have failed me to many times! NO MORE CHANCES! However the MS console the Xbox and the 360 are brand spaken new compared to the old dogs of the industry.. That is why i gave them a chance first.. But sadly.. They are dissapointing me left and right.. First of all paying for a Online Service when you and me obviously know that it should be 100% free.. MS just makes you pay to fill there pockets even more.. And the demo crap is bull! Demos should be free anyway.. If a company really wants you to buy there product they will release a shorter version of it or a Demo for free! Also the titles for the 360 are all Look Alike Halos or Look Alike God Of Wars.. You got a few original games in there.. But there berried under the crap that is microsoft.. Not to mention there system is designed horribly! Fucking overheats non stop! I do really think that Sony has a high chance in coming out on top by the time the next generation gaming console/whatever it may be comes out.. MS will probably die.. As for Nintendo.. It really depends on them.. It depends on weither or not they stop jerking there dicks off with there old titles like Mario and Sonic and such..
I have to wonder how much of x-box's sales figures have been accurate. I mean seriously how could they be breaking even with all the systems that died and were replaced because of RROD. How many of those sold units were replacements due to failure after warranty expired, before M$ decided to extend it because they finally conceded that the RROD problem was a major issue.bladerunner317 said:
I not trying to be a sony fanboy, even though I really am one, but as a gamer I would love to see some real numbers on this issue, and just to keep things fair I would love to see what the sales figures for the PSP GO were. I mean seriously am I the only one that knoticed how that whole thing thing seemed to die in coverage once the GO was released?
This.lacktheknack said:
360 kid: you suck!
PS3 kid: no, you suck!
360 kid: no, you suck!
Wii kid walks past
silence
PS3 kid: no, you suck!
i mean, let's face it most of us think the Wii is the inferior console. it has a novelty value which you go back for every now and again but it been bending MS and Sony over the table for years now.
This is what I was going to say.NamesAreHardToPick said:
Microsoft pays developers not to release their games on more than one platform because they know that those games would sell better on the PS3. That ends up just hurting gaming as a whole just to make themselves money. That IS greedy and stupid.
Pitiful how many people here missed this.
You gonna post some data or are you just trolling?GloatingSwine said:
Edited= posted response in wrong thread, its fixed now.
Sales are sales, even if it's guys buying a new 360 to replace a busted one. That said, it would be a much more useful statistic for fans and game developers to know how many homes had one or more 360's running.Sephiwind said:
PSP Go isn't selling well, like a couple thousand a week. I didn't think it would since you can get a 3000 and a memory stick and have the same thing with a bigger screen and get used games on UMD. I think it'll pick up once Sony drops the price and the supply of used PSP discs dries up a bit. The PSP's larger problem is that it just can't do anything right when it comes to the gaming press... there's a huge double-standard towards the device. At first everyone was pissing and moaning about Sony's UMD format even though it was the exact same optical disc vs cartridge design that let PSX crush N64 back in the day. Now they're pissing and moaning that it's being phased out because of game ownership issues and the digital store... every rag was up in arms that the Go is download-only and yet the equally digital-only (and worse-for-games) iPod and iPhone are treated like the second coming of Christ.
Dear god. The obsession with exclusives is straight up fanboy talk. Really. I'm not going to go so far as to make a "Real Gamers Do This" argument, but if you feel compelled to buy one system and bank on it being the best, by all means... best of luck with that. You are going to miss out on a LOT of gems. You really have to own all the consoles to have an informed opinion. This isn't about making a bet or playing some imaginary stock market. It's about having fun.
I, on the other hand, have the distinct pleasure of playing any game, NDS, PSP, PC, 360, PS3, or Wii.
The only concern I have these days is which controller I want to use. I even have controller adapters to use either a 360 or a PS3 controller where ever I want, but sometimes the design just isn't optimized for a controller they never thought I'd be using. I always prefer a 360 controller, with the sole exception of fighting games.
I, on the other hand, have the distinct pleasure of playing any game, NDS, PSP, PC, 360, PS3, or Wii.
The only concern I have these days is which controller I want to use. I even have controller adapters to use either a 360 or a PS3 controller where ever I want, but sometimes the design just isn't optimized for a controller they never thought I'd be using. I always prefer a 360 controller, with the sole exception of fighting games.
One tactic arguably creates a culture. The other arguably foments and promotes division. It's one thing to wholly develop a product that could run on nothing else; this can be interpreted that, ground up, porting wasn't the original plan. This is actually the primary tactic of the disappeared 3rd actor, the almost WHOLLY 1st party system, Nintendo. Look at Nintendo's loyalty figures and I'm sure you will see a correlation (if not causation) in this behavior.Tom Goldman said:
It's a wholly different thing to accept money to refuse to utilize portions of an engine that make porting easy. That action is perceivable as accepting money to NOT sell to a person. Especially when BioWare has OTHER PS3 products. This can be reasonably seen as mercenary action, and any personal connotations to that sort of thing can't be lightly dismissed.
Just sayin', so you might understand how this can be seen as valid criticism.
it's all moot, i'm putting cash on the new xbox being announced at gdc or e3. either for holidays 2010 or 11. due to current financial concerns around the globe maybe 2011, either way the very thing sony is whining about is what leads me to believe microsoft wants a dx11 console in the wilds.
they need to convince developers to start using dx11, they need to get a more powerful piece of hardware out to keep pace with pc, they need to capitilise on the new dx11 features that were never even imagined back at sm3+. microsoft has been lead dev platform because it makes it so much easier to make a pc version. with a dx 11 console the ensure openGL is is even further behind.
sony has only really just hit it's stride, maybe in the last twelve months, a new far more powerful xbox would devastate them. i'd be willing to bet nintendo announces a new console this year too. the wii might have done well in sales but i doubt it was ever intended as anything more than a toy. mind you the "hardcore" games have all flopped out so nintendo may choose to opt out of direct competition with sony and microsoft in favour of this new pocap style market they've nurtured.
all of this is guesswork.
they need to convince developers to start using dx11, they need to get a more powerful piece of hardware out to keep pace with pc, they need to capitilise on the new dx11 features that were never even imagined back at sm3+. microsoft has been lead dev platform because it makes it so much easier to make a pc version. with a dx 11 console the ensure openGL is is even further behind.
sony has only really just hit it's stride, maybe in the last twelve months, a new far more powerful xbox would devastate them. i'd be willing to bet nintendo announces a new console this year too. the wii might have done well in sales but i doubt it was ever intended as anything more than a toy. mind you the "hardcore" games have all flopped out so nintendo may choose to opt out of direct competition with sony and microsoft in favour of this new pocap style market they've nurtured.
all of this is guesswork.
You know... sooner or later, people will probably grow up and realize that blu ray's advantage is rather minimal at best. Sure I suppose someone SOMEWHERE cares a little, but ask one of the millions of xbox owners if they give two ploops about blu ray and you'll probably end up realizing what most rational people do... "it doesn't matter". Sure, having your game on ONE disk is a "convenience" but I hardly call that a selling point if the versions of the game are arguably indistinguishable.
I have the same opinion about "graphics". I was told that Dragon Age was "better" on the PS3 than the xbox because it LOOKED better... but after a while of playing, I for some strange reason seem to care less about graphics and more about the game's story, characters, play-style, etc... Another example is Batman Arkham asylum.. I had heard the Xbox version was superior, and yet I have no complaints about my PS3 version. Of course the PS3 had the Joker levels exclusive, but to be quite honest, I could have cared less about that... it added nor subtracted anything significant from the awesomeness that was the GAME.
Seriously, who are the people that get all bent out of shape if they see a few seconds of "tearing" on the screen, or if the draw distance is a fraction of a virtual foot shorter than on a console counterpart?! If Bungie and Microsoft released Halo on the PS3, the only people who would be butt-hurt would be Xbox fans, and all of the "halo sucks!" comments from the PS3 side of the fence would suddenly dry up as it became the biggest selling Playstation title of ALL TIME (I would bet my FREEDOM that it would break all known selling records EVER).
So when I see Sony executives running around like forum fanboys crying big fat digital tears over their competitor's business practices and making bold and daring threats about their soon-to-come "dominance" (while I notice he CAREFULLY sidestepped mentioning the Wii in any capacity, probably because he knew that the Wii very MUCH exists in Japan and Europe and America nor does he mention Sony's well observed business tactic of "shamelessly copying any innovative ideas their competitors are visionary enough to create first, only with half the quality and none of the effort), it starts to annoy me. For love's sake, I'm willing to bet that if Sony took a poll to see how many people who became NEW PS3 owners ALSO own and continue to use their Xbox, it would marginalize any arrogant claims of being the "top seller" in ANY country.
Of course, you are just setting yourself up for a fall when you start making snide comments about your competitor's A-list titles as if they were inconsequential, stupid games... I mean pffft that stupid Bungie and that lame Halo series.. nobody plays that right? Oh and that ridiculous Peter Molyneux and his crappy Fable games, who cares? I mean, Sony has PLENTY of games JUST LIKE FABLE right? I mean, the PS3's RPG catalog is like a million times sooooo better than Xbox's, what with the.. um.. well.. AND look at their LAME version of Dante's Inferno! Sony's is going to be MUCH better when it's forced to compete with the game that reinvigorated the hack n slash genre, God of War 3... Seriously, is he actually excited about having a Sony exclusive compete with a lesser quality homage to that same Sony Exclusive?
Gah, I've ranted long enough. Point is, Sony executives need to stop marketing by trying to insult their competitors and start actually concentrating on pumping the positive of their OWN brand, because quite frankly, while I love my PS3, it's not living up to the hype that Sony itself seems to be more than happy to ejaculate at every opportunity, but at the end of the day has a mediocre game library with a handful of gems, a piss poor online network, and the abomination that is HOME sucking up their funding like an aging Las Vegas whore with a tracheal tube.
Next, they'll be dissin the NDS for having all them cartridges when going DOWNLOAD only with no backwards compatibility support is Sony Ingenuity at it's best.
I have the same opinion about "graphics". I was told that Dragon Age was "better" on the PS3 than the xbox because it LOOKED better... but after a while of playing, I for some strange reason seem to care less about graphics and more about the game's story, characters, play-style, etc... Another example is Batman Arkham asylum.. I had heard the Xbox version was superior, and yet I have no complaints about my PS3 version. Of course the PS3 had the Joker levels exclusive, but to be quite honest, I could have cared less about that... it added nor subtracted anything significant from the awesomeness that was the GAME.
Seriously, who are the people that get all bent out of shape if they see a few seconds of "tearing" on the screen, or if the draw distance is a fraction of a virtual foot shorter than on a console counterpart?! If Bungie and Microsoft released Halo on the PS3, the only people who would be butt-hurt would be Xbox fans, and all of the "halo sucks!" comments from the PS3 side of the fence would suddenly dry up as it became the biggest selling Playstation title of ALL TIME (I would bet my FREEDOM that it would break all known selling records EVER).
So when I see Sony executives running around like forum fanboys crying big fat digital tears over their competitor's business practices and making bold and daring threats about their soon-to-come "dominance" (while I notice he CAREFULLY sidestepped mentioning the Wii in any capacity, probably because he knew that the Wii very MUCH exists in Japan and Europe and America nor does he mention Sony's well observed business tactic of "shamelessly copying any innovative ideas their competitors are visionary enough to create first, only with half the quality and none of the effort), it starts to annoy me. For love's sake, I'm willing to bet that if Sony took a poll to see how many people who became NEW PS3 owners ALSO own and continue to use their Xbox, it would marginalize any arrogant claims of being the "top seller" in ANY country.
Of course, you are just setting yourself up for a fall when you start making snide comments about your competitor's A-list titles as if they were inconsequential, stupid games... I mean pffft that stupid Bungie and that lame Halo series.. nobody plays that right? Oh and that ridiculous Peter Molyneux and his crappy Fable games, who cares? I mean, Sony has PLENTY of games JUST LIKE FABLE right? I mean, the PS3's RPG catalog is like a million times sooooo better than Xbox's, what with the.. um.. well.. AND look at their LAME version of Dante's Inferno! Sony's is going to be MUCH better when it's forced to compete with the game that reinvigorated the hack n slash genre, God of War 3... Seriously, is he actually excited about having a Sony exclusive compete with a lesser quality homage to that same Sony Exclusive?
Gah, I've ranted long enough. Point is, Sony executives need to stop marketing by trying to insult their competitors and start actually concentrating on pumping the positive of their OWN brand, because quite frankly, while I love my PS3, it's not living up to the hype that Sony itself seems to be more than happy to ejaculate at every opportunity, but at the end of the day has a mediocre game library with a handful of gems, a piss poor online network, and the abomination that is HOME sucking up their funding like an aging Las Vegas whore with a tracheal tube.
Next, they'll be dissin the NDS for having all them cartridges when going DOWNLOAD only with no backwards compatibility support is Sony Ingenuity at it's best.
Being someone who owns all 3 of the current generation of consoles and a kick ass gaming PC, I think Sony is just trying to make themselves look better.
I only recently bought a PS3, and the only reason I did was for the exclusive titles. From just a console standpoint, 'Almost' every multi-platform title that I am interested in looks better and plays better on the 360, so I buy the 360 version. The only PS3 games I own are a couple of exclusive titles. Dante's Inferno may be the first one I buy PS3 depending on what Lens of Truth says about quality and performance.
The companies and fanboys will always nitpick at each other over something, whether it's about the specs, the accessories, the exclusives, they are just being fanboys. At the end of the day though, I just want to play some kick ass games, and I don't care who's system it is on. Just give me HDR lighting, 4xAA, 8xAF in 1080p at 60fps with a decent 5.1 surround mix.
I only recently bought a PS3, and the only reason I did was for the exclusive titles. From just a console standpoint, 'Almost' every multi-platform title that I am interested in looks better and plays better on the 360, so I buy the 360 version. The only PS3 games I own are a couple of exclusive titles. Dante's Inferno may be the first one I buy PS3 depending on what Lens of Truth says about quality and performance.
The companies and fanboys will always nitpick at each other over something, whether it's about the specs, the accessories, the exclusives, they are just being fanboys. At the end of the day though, I just want to play some kick ass games, and I don't care who's system it is on. Just give me HDR lighting, 4xAA, 8xAF in 1080p at 60fps with a decent 5.1 surround mix.
lol how much free time do you have, man? I've got just PS3 and I can't even keep up with the good exclusives. A friend of mine (again just on PS3) buys the good multi-platform titles and has a backlog of games that grows by 1 a month give or take.edgeofblade said:
I'd totally agree with this. Microsoft needs to come out with a new console or some huge feature to draw core gamers before Sony catches up for numbers... I think making new hardware sufficiently bigger and better than the current generation to justify the cost and incompatibility to customers will be a huge technical challenge if they try it in the short term though.mooseodeath said:
If the ps3 is going to 'overtake' the 360, why do you give a shit that 360 isn't playing nicely, mr. sony?