Sony Files Patent for Backwards-Compatible PS3 Add-on
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Have you seen the price differential between the 60GB launch systems and the Slims? That doesn't sound like free to me.Cynical skeptic said:
Sega CD anyone?
well, I'm saving for my PS3, so, no, I wont buy the addon.
but who knows, maybe it comes with some special shit that makes old ps2 games get better graphics and shit (if they werent already updated and launched as collections on the actual ps3 =P)
well, I'm saving for my PS3, so, no, I wont buy the addon.
but who knows, maybe it comes with some special shit that makes old ps2 games get better graphics and shit (if they werent already updated and launched as collections on the actual ps3 =P)
Well, given that to give the older PS3's native back-compatibility, Sony basically had to stick the guts of a PS2 inside anyway, this makes a measure of sense.
I'd buy it, so long as the compatibility rates are alright. Besides, if it routes through the PS3, that gives it access to the HDMI lineout, not to mention the PS3's hardware (though they mayn't be of much use, admittedly).
I'd buy it, so long as the compatibility rates are alright. Besides, if it routes through the PS3, that gives it access to the HDMI lineout, not to mention the PS3's hardware (though they mayn't be of much use, admittedly).
Man, I loved his 32x bit. But it isn't a shameless add-on to push the life, there are general concerns about loosing PS2s. Hell, out of my group of friends 4 of them have bit it this past year including a used one that they picked up at a flea market for dirt to replace a dead one.Zeithri said:
Honestly, I wouldn't pick it up only because I moved to the PS3 from the Gamecube, so my PS2 library is lacking. The only reason I would consider it is for Chrono Cross and Persona 4. Damn P4 came out after the PS3 but stayed a PS2 disk.
Eh, LIVE has been a completely sealed walled garden since it's inception. If they've been paying for that bullshit since the xbox, they've probably convinced themselves they're getting something for the money.CTU_Loscombe said:
That was simply the price of manufacturing falling as the technology (bluray) became more commonplace. If sony ever implied even a portion of that cost reduction was due to the removal of hardware backwards compatiblity, they lied from their collective ass.BehattedWanderer said:
Originally, there was only one guy in middle america doing several of the necessary components, he was the lowest bidder, but he was still damned expensive.
Now, theres bluray component sweatshops all through the third world, which drives down prices considerably.
You do know that the backwards compatibility was removed because it didn't work and not just for a money grab, right?Cynical skeptic said:
Many of the titles had issues ranging from sound problems to loss of data, game freezing, and so forth.
While it works for some games, and others have non-critical issues, the main reason it was pulled was because it didn't work.
Now, you can buy something that does work.
If Sony was just out for money, they wouldn't have made the original release backwards compatible, and would instead say "Hey, download some bullshit for $XX before we let you play old games on here."
you're talking about the half-assed dev kit port software emulation. The hardware backwards compatiblity was, literally, all the unique components of a PS2 soldiered directly to the board. Also, no, you can't buy this, because the patent was filed February '09, then, in August '09 John Koller [http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/20/sony-ps2-back-compat-not-returning-to-ps3-ever/] stated clearly that backwards compatibility was never coming back.Jaded Scribe said:
It seems their "ten year plan" included a strange and moronic transition from ps2 to ps3 as their library fleshed out. The problem is their plan really just translates to removing features and functionality in response to every spike in demand.
Sony is a pack of gibbering morons.
Okay, you enjoy being angry then.Cynical skeptic said:
I've been very happy with Sony. My PS3 slim runs everything I want to do with it beautifully, I think it has the best games on the market, and am intrigued by where they are taking things.
I think bringing back backwards compatibility (and the hardware means jackshit if the software can't support it. And porting games is not as easy as it looks) is a great move, and if the price is right, I'm looking forward to being able to do something else with the PS2 and be able to play my games straight from my PS3.
But go ahead. Keep yelling at people that they're stupid if they disagree with you. It's amusing.
I just like to point out that this is a Jaded Scribe arguing with a Cynical Skeptic.Jaded Scribe said:
And they were having problems with the backwards compatibility. However, I remember Sony saying something that all they needed was a good sized patch downloaded into the system to make it play them on the slims and they were developing/holding it until more of the PS2s were off the shelves.
So, you're both right. Go to the back room and grab a cookie.
... Where did that come from?Jaded Scribe said:
The ps3 could be several times more marketable than it is currently. Except sony has this "plan," that seems designed to maintain a certain level of demand even to the point of sacrificing the excess.
Decent games hit the system, sony releases a newer, more stripped down version of the console and ceasing manufacture the superior models. Removing the features that had people on the fence the same time they get some games to pull people off the fence. I mean, will sony eventually drop the ability to play bluray movies once the system actually manages to cobble together something resembling a decent library?
Its weird/random at best, the demented ramblings of gibbering morons at average, or Citizen Kane style calculated financial suicide at worst.
As far as your feelings towards sony... uh... congratulations for "beating" the spread?
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Yay! Cookies!!KEM10 said:
Seriously though, chances are very good that if they were already expecting it to be a large patch, they discovered as they were working on it that it would be too large, and likely impact other areas of the system and decided the best idea was to go a different direction.
Welcome to software development.
Considering that the Blu-Ray functionality actually works, it's unlikely they'll hack it.Cynical skeptic said:
And maybe you should elucidate a bit more. The only functionality that I know of being removed is the backwards compatibility which didn't work!!!
Ok, so you would rather have a system that didn't work. Grats.
And what "beating the spread"? I know many, many people that are equally happy with their PS3s. Those that find it lacking only do so because most of the games they are interested on the PS3 are available cross-platform. At that point, it simply comes down to a matter of preference. I am unlikely to buy an XBox anytime soon, as the ONLY game that I have any interest in is Halo and it's sequels. Every other title that I have an interest in is available on the PS3.
In fact, I hear very few complaints about the system other than the desire for backwards compatibility.
And what you're really missing here is the key point: no one is making you buy the new peripheral. Don't like Sony? Want a cookie? No one cares. Your mindless bashing of a company over a feature that didn't work, and now will is not going to sway any of us. Those that are on the fence will fall in whatever direction they choose, and while this feature may cause some to fall away from Sony, I bet there are just as many people who will fall the other way.
The direction that Sony is going in (as laid out at this year's E3) is an incredibly exciting one, for those of us (and there are many) that are perfectly happy with the console.
"the spread," meaning sony's dogged determination to sabotage interest in it's own product. "Beating it," as in, buying into the ps3 anyway.Jaded Scribe said:
Also, saying "i know tons of ps3 owners happy with the ps3" is like saying, "i know tons of fish happy with breathing water." Once you take the plunge you can't really go back, now can you? You have to justify the purchase to yourself. I forget the term for it.
By the way, stop acting like I'm trying to piss you off or something. I'm merely stating facts and deriving interpretation from them.
Well, yeah. It WOULD need its own gpu and processer, otherwise it would just be a disc reader. The ps3 already has a disc reader........inside the ps3.
This would be cool, i suppose. Besides the whole playing all the old games thing, theres other possibilities. Online modes, trophy support (for old ps2 games, imagine that)
but that doesnt mean its going to be made. The trick is to file a patent FIRST, before anyone else makes one, to stop them for doing it. (although could they, without sonys permision on a modern console?)
Still interesting idea. Would only need to be 50 dollars, like others already said. I sure miss my games...my controllers broken. Would rather buy that then keep buying old ps2 controllers and cables...
This would be cool, i suppose. Besides the whole playing all the old games thing, theres other possibilities. Online modes, trophy support (for old ps2 games, imagine that)
but that doesnt mean its going to be made. The trick is to file a patent FIRST, before anyone else makes one, to stop them for doing it. (although could they, without sonys permision on a modern console?)
Still interesting idea. Would only need to be 50 dollars, like others already said. I sure miss my games...my controllers broken. Would rather buy that then keep buying old ps2 controllers and cables...