Sony Files Patent for Backwards-Compatible PS3 Add-on

Swifteye

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dathwampeer said:
No one would buy it. If you have to pay for a physical addon people with probably just go buy a ps2.
except for that they don't make new ps2's and refurbished ones have a high chance of breaking.....
 

KaiRai

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I bet the add on will be like 60 quid. Which I personally wouldn't buy, because you can pick up a PS2 for around £15-20....
 

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No, plain and simple. What he was bringing up was the software emulator they were using instead of the hardware you are mentioning. The emulator program used for it worked for the most part, but was glitchy as hell, to the point of unplayability for several games.

Wild Arms 5 constantly freezes
KH: Re: Chain of Memory couldn't go past the tutorial
Xenosaga would lock as soon as you entered the mad scientists area to try and even start getting Erde Kaiser.

Theres easily more too, that's just what I remember off the top of my head and own, I got roughly 80 ps2 games, can't remember all that don't work on it. They switched, if I remember right, from hardware (like the PS2 used to play the ps1), to emulation (like what we use to play console games on our computers, albeit theirs is more professional... and legal), to none because the hardware was expensive and they needed to reduce price and the software was buggy.
The hardware wasn't expensive, though. Independent analysis puts the cost of the modified emotion engine in launch ps3s at around $20. They might've (if they were getting market reports from bizzaro world), opted to remove the hardware emulation to trim down unit production times, but that would simply be the height of delusion, as there was never and still isn't much resembling high demand for ps3s.

I am, also, pretty much certain the real reason they discontinued the emulation is because projects like pcsx2 surged forward a bit once they started looking at the software emulator's code, as it was just a modified ps2 dev kit.

Thing is, the choice to remove the hardware emulation was crap. The choice to replace it with software emulation was even more crap. The idea they were going to charge for a ps2 peripheral is crap at critical mass.

You can, will, and very easily find ps2s for very low prices. There is no excuse for anyone to have even considered this. Thankfully, someone within sony spoke up and said as much before the public even knew about it.

What they need to do, is put the emotion engine back in the ps3s. Rather than steadily reducing features and functionality, seemingly, in response to every spike in demand.
 
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Hmmm, If It's less than £20 i may consider buying it, Even though paying money for something that should have been included in the first place is stupid.

It's this or unravel the ball of cables and plugs required to get my PS2 working. i may consider this for conveniences sake. Yeah i'm a lazy bastard.
 

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Eh, I've still got my PS2. Maybe I'll buy this backward's compatibility device if it dies on me (which might be soon actually). So, I'd be grateful if they made this, due to the fact that they can't keep manufacturing PS2's forever, and I'd still like to play some of my old PS2 games someday.

Still though... pretty sure they could soft-ware emulate it, with a little time and effort.

At least it's not as bad as that other thing they were considering: Re-releasing all PS2 games as PSN downloads. Now THAT would have been terrible.
 

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vxicepickxv said:
Dana22 said:
I'd rather jailbreak ps3.
How exactly would this work? Software driven PS2 emulation?
I actually dont know. I dont own a ps3, but Ive read that the jailbreak "Teensy" thingy can run ps2 games on all versions of ps3 (whether it is fat or slim).
 

Gigano

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If they make it small and cheap enough it would be a great and viable alternative, especially if it utilize the PS3 hard drive, disk drive (as the drawing would suggest), and interface.

Seeing how cheap PS2 consoles are by now, especially used (saw a used one at what translates to some 50 $ at a Danish Gamestop store, and private sales should be even cheaper), it'll probably have to be very cheap for any widespread adoption.
 
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Dexiro said:
I actually really like this idea :D

Presumably it'd be cheaper than an actual PS2. Then on top of that less space is taken up, you get to use the wireless PS3 controllers, get to keep the PS3 UI and don't have to keep switching power cords. Oh and those damn memory cards are replaced with the harddrive!

A lot of benefits there that people aren't taking into consideration.
Still should be free though. Of course it's beneficial but there really is no reason to take away the BC and charge us for it. Personally, I don't have a problem, my PS2 is right there next to my PS3 if I ever need to use it, but Sony really isn't making the best choice here.

Korolev said:
Eh, I've still got my PS2. Maybe I'll buy this backward's compatibility device if it dies on me (which might be soon actually). So, I'd be grateful if they made this, due to the fact that they can't keep manufacturing PS2's forever, and I'd still like to play some of my old PS2 games someday.

Still though... pretty sure they could soft-ware emulate it, with a little time and effort.

At least it's not as bad as that other thing they were considering: Re-releasing all PS2 games as PSN downloads. Now THAT would have been terrible.
How would that be a terrible idea? Sounds good to me. PS1 games are there and I don't see how they're doing anything wrong. Giving the opportunity to a new audience to easily find and play older titles is priceless.
 

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I might have to get this if it has a good price because my PS2 is starting to show it's age (bout 9-10 years old) and runs really slow and my 60gb PS3 got the YLOD a month ago.
 

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GeneticallyModifiedDucks said:
Dexiro said:
I actually really like this idea :D

Presumably it'd be cheaper than an actual PS2. Then on top of that less space is taken up, you get to use the wireless PS3 controllers, get to keep the PS3 UI and don't have to keep switching power cords. Oh and those damn memory cards are replaced with the harddrive!

A lot of benefits there that people aren't taking into consideration.
Still should be free though. Of course it's beneficial but there really is no reason to take away the BC and charge us for it. Personally, I don't have a problem, my PS2 is right there next to my PS3 if I ever need to use it, but Sony really isn't making the best choice here.
It's hardware, they can't give it away for free. They did try software emulation, but if a peripheral is what they have to do to get it to work then they don't have much choice.

They shouldn't have taken BC away in the first place but i don't blame them because they were supposedly losing so much money from the PS3 to begin with, it's not like they'd remove it just to annoy us :p
 

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If it smooths the picture to a decent level and makes PS2 games look decent on modern screen, I'd definitely be interested. They can't re-release EVERY game can they?
Be keeping an eye on this one.
 

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Cynical skeptic said:
"Sounds good?" What used to be included with the ps3 for free being separated and sold for any price is utter bullshit.

Jesus fucking christ people, stop thinking its okay to pay for what you used to get free.
This means that people with a PS3 lacking backwards compatiblity won't have to go out to buy a new PS3, which will likely be more expensive that a add-on.
 

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dana22 said:
I'd rather jailbreak ps3.
Wow probation for this, of course he can't do whatever he wants with his own property, it's not like there are any civil rights.
 

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Here's my take on this;

The PS2 isn't going to last forever. This is fact. That's why Sony is gearing up for all those PS2 collections, because when the PS2 is gone, so are the games. It's been a good 12 years, but all good things must come to an end.

I don't think Sony is stupid enough to not somehow incorporate Backwards compatibility (though I'm sure they can prove me wrong...), and while all of us would really prefer if they could implement it without an extra fee (note: there's no price tag on this, so who knows, maybe Sony could be generous-HAHA, I'm sorry, that's too funny), but whatever they can do to prepare for the inevitable fading out of the PS2 is a good one in my book.

...though I'd probably sucker in and fork over the dough...