Sony: "Red Line Of Death" Affects Less Than 1% of PS4s

[GladiatorUA]

Failure rate is not a significant problem by itself. What makes it painful is the fact that there are not enough consoles to replace dead ones with.
Typically DoA electronics are easily replaced which makes the percentage of dead ones not so apparent.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Lets see what that number looks like in 6 months. Though so far, this looks pretty promising.

One of the more common HIV tests gives a false positive 20% of the time. While pregnancy tests all claim to be at least 99% accurate, they're usually not (even when used properly) in independent tests. Most birth control has a higher failure rate, too, but we still prescribe it.

Apparently, the entire medical field is quite deceptive.

Uh, OK. But I thought we were talking about the defective rate of PS4s.

I think we should wait for the market to provide a larger sample before declaring the total failure rate. Right now it looks fine, which is a step up from...other systems I could mention.

That, and the defects that are obvious now may not be all the significant defects that exist.
It could take time for other failures to become apparent through normal usage.

 

[vIRL Nightmare]

I see people focusing on the number rather than the percentage being upset while I'm sitting here laughing since they clearly don't understand how mass production works. Also the tragedy is a minor boo-boo at best since all you have to do is go to the store and say "it's a brick" and you get another, because receipt.

Edit: Also check your math people, I last heard .4% that is 4000 consoles approximately. 4000 bad against 996000 good systems is pretty damn impressive. Honestly speaking I'd say the margin of error might be another .2% at most. Again, percentages matter since it gives you perspective on their actual performance. I can only hope xbox one has an equally impressive count so both systems can have a relatively solid start to another decade of good times.

 

[WouldYouKindly]

You'll also note that the failure rate is less than 1% after only 4 days. Extrapolate this over months, assuming it's not just an isolated incident, and you may end up with a much higher overall fail rate. The fail rate of the Xbox 360 may have been similar in such a short time span, but it sure as hell didn't stay that low.

This is a 500 dollar piece of tech that we're expecting to last around 5 years. Having any significant number of them break after only 4 days isn't a good sign for the quality of the construction of the rest of them.

 

[Something Amyss]

Yeah, just the quoting is starting to grate...

Man, I really dropped the ball with that post huh? Oh well, guess that is my epic fail post for the year.

I can sympathise with that.

But anyway, if you buckle down, I'm sure you can find the strength to fail even harder.

>.>

 

[Something Amyss]

Uh, OK. But I thought we were talking about the defective rate of PS4s.

You edited out the guy I was responding to. The guy who specifically brought up how horrible this would be in medical terms.

I could see this if I had made a mistake and not included him, but you actually had to go and REMOVE his post from between yours and my response to him to make this response look the way it does.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Uh, OK. But I thought we were talking about the defective rate of PS4s.

You edited out the guy I was responding to. The guy who specifically brought up how horrible this would be in medical terms.

I could see this if I had made a mistake and not included him, but you actually had to go and REMOVE his post from between yours and my response to him to make this response look the way it does.

Now I'm doubly confused, and have no idea why you quoted me to begin with.

I've said absolutely NOTHING about the medical field; it's not my point and my post has nothing to do with his point.
So I don't know why you would post the same response to both his quote and mine.

Hence, why I omitted it.

 

[Something Amyss]

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I've said absolutely NOTHING about the medical field

Thank God there was someone who said something about the medical field which I was responding to directly. Unfortunately, you seem to have decided a direct response to him was somehow a response to you to such an extent that you omitted the relevant information and are now chastising me over something you didn't say (but that had nothing to do with you in the first place, and only reasonably becomes an issue if you remove the intermediate text).

You were clearly aware of the pertinent part, so a continued fixation on this point baffles me.

So I don't know why you would post the same response to both his quote and mine.

How fortunate I didn't.

 

[bluegate]

My first question here would be is that Sony's PR and Marketing department or the Technical team giving the number of 1% to the spokesperson?

I like Sony but honesty is not something they are known for. And looking at all the DOAs and complaints in Amazon, the number is definitely greater than 1%. And looking at it, there other problems that don't kill the console completely but render it unusable--- such as blu-ray drive issues (like what happened to Totalbiscuit's PS4). I'd like to think of this as something like US unemployment figures--- full of excluding criteria designed to reduce the number as much as possible.

Sorry Sony but I am not that naive.

So you've actually seen more than 10.000 DOA's and complaints on Amazon, have you ?

 

[Atmos Duality]

Thank God there was someone who said something about the medical field which I was responding to directly.

Unfortunately, you seem to have decided a direct response to him was somehow a response to you to such an extent that you omitted the relevant information and are now chastising me over something you didn't say (but that had nothing to do with you in the first place, and only reasonably becomes an issue if you remove the intermediate text).

OK, so clarify for me: WHY did you quote me in the first place? Did you have a response that you just omitted?
Because at this point I'm guessing.

Did you use my quote as a response to Elamdri?

I have to ask because of the mass-block-responses in this thread: As formatted, it's a bit ambiguous.
Either I'm misreading the original post, or something was lost in translation.

 

[EvilRoy]

Thank God there was someone who said something about the medical field which I was responding to directly.

Unfortunately, you seem to have decided a direct response to him was somehow a response to you to such an extent that you omitted the relevant information and are now chastising me over something you didn't say (but that had nothing to do with you in the first place, and only reasonably becomes an issue if you remove the intermediate text).

OK, so clarify for me: WHY did you quote me in the first place? Did you have a response that you just omitted?
Because at this point I'm guessing.

Did you use my quote as a response to Elamdri?

I have to ask because of the mass-block-responses in this thread: As formatted, it's a bit ambiguous.
Either I'm misreading the original post, or something was lost in translation.

It took me a few read throughs, but I think I got it. When he said "More to the point:" I think the colon was actually supposed to be referencing only your quoted post, and the next quote and following text were supposed to be an unrelated statement.

My first couple read throughs really had me thinking that the entire last half of the response was intended to be "More to the point" of the first half. It didn't make sense, but one thing I've learned on the internet is "assume stupid until proven innocent".

 

[Atmos Duality]

It took me a few read throughs, but I think I got it. When he said "More to the point:" I think the colon was actually supposed to be referencing only your quoted post, and the next quote and following text were supposed to be an unrelated statement.

Yeah, re-reading it, it makes more sense that way. I'm thinking I misread the intent.
Though in my defense, I was reading other responses where the users were quoted in a row and given the same response, so that's why.

Whatever. I've said the only thing I cared to say: Wait to see if this is consistent before lauding Sony completely. It's a good start, but that doesn't automatically imply consistency.

 

[Lightknight]

Less than 1%? That's much better than I was worried it was. That'd make this a solid launch if true.

Amazon reviews and youtube videos simply weren't as common in 2006 as they are now. Of course the focus will be on negative experiences.

 

[COMaestro]

Do I need to make my edit even bigger? I have been quoted on my mistake enough times already.

Might I suggest skywriting?

I made it bigger, how the heck am I supposed to make it more noticeable, I have people still quoting me long after putting the edit in...even you!

Does it lack that much presence...its in big blue writing!

Try red. That always stands out better.

From what I've read, Sony is doing a great job at replacing any faulty systems as quickly as possible, so while it would definitely suck to get a new console home and have it be broken, at least it sounds like most people are getting replacements pretty fast. Definitely seems like a promising launch. We'll have to see how things are a few months down the road, but I am hopeful. Especially since I have a PS4 and want it to run correctly for a number of years.

 

[VoidOfOne]

I wonder what the failure rate will be within the next few months? And, less than 1% is very impressive, especially for new tech. Still not buying one until at least a year out, as there are no games out for it that I want to play. Didn't get a 360 until I found several games I wanted to play on it, and it will be the same with this system.

Still, if all of this is true, it's a solid launch from Sony. At least, for now. Still holding out judgment.

And does anyone else find it a little bit amusing that TizzytheTormentor is being... tormented? With so many people quoting him/her?

 

[Elamdri]

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Unacceptable was a bit strong on my part, it is quite impressive that the failure rate is low, but its still strange to see a console literally brick itself right out of the box.

Apologies for the misunderstanding.

Eh it's ok, I woke up this morning and was like "man I was a dick."

But bricks happen. It's unfortunate, but it's just the nature of electronics. I've been building PCs for about 10 years now and I've had about 4 parts arrive DOA over the course of those 10 years. It sucks to get a new processor and find out the pin was bent in the box or that your new RAM is dead.

Then you send it back and get your refund/replacement. Typically with an apology and a rebate/coupon/ect.

 

[Hutzpah Chicken]

I feel that these new consoles are rushed into production before they are fully tested. My Sega Genesis has worked without a problem for over 22 years and my PS2 has worked consistently for 13 years. I don't recall hearing (although this was before youtube) about debilitating hardware or software issues until the X-Box 360. Perhaps if they are making such technologically advanced systems, they should run more intensive and vigorous tests to stop such problems.

 

[Dodgeboyuk]

its early i am sure we will see more failures "down the line" (in the future)