Sony Says PS4 is "First and Foremost" a Game Console

[spartandude]

*Ding ding!*

And the winner of this console generation iiiiiis.....

Me!
I'd like to thank the academy, God, and my family and friends for supporting me. Finally MAH FANS! I LOVE YOU GUYS!

can i just say this may be one of the best posts ive ever seen

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Well it seems like Microsoft really is just helping out Sony. i mean when you get good publicity by saying your games console can play games then your competitor really just isnt trying

 

[Evil Smurf]

*Ding ding!*

And the winner of this console generation iiiiiis.....

Me!
I'd like to thank the academy, God, and my family and friends for supporting me. Finally MAH FANS! I LOVE YOU GUYS!

can i just say this may be one of the best posts ive ever seen

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Well it seems like Microsoft really is just helping out Sony. i mean when you get good publicity by saying your games console can play games then your competitor really just isnt trying

Oh a fan? Let's have a photo
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OT: Sony will have a hard time stuffing this opportunity up.

 

[Lightknight]

I do love how Sony's got such good press right now. It's as if people have completely forgotten about the fact they removed an advertised feature of their console (other OS) and also stored people's details in plain text files, which made them easily accessible during the whole hacking thing.

Meh, companies can do anything they want these days. I'm not judging honestly, I still have my PS3 haha.

Not sure why the second OS would matter when they have an additional processor dedicated for updates. Is there a reason you'd like another OS and did they actually promise one for the PS4?

That network thing was certainly troublesome but they didn't store them that way in plain site. They had them encrypted and locked away but some hackers saw fit to bring them down and did so. If you really want to get into a network you can. Show me a network that calls itself unhackable and I'll either show you pictures of the Titanic (the unsinkable ship) or a picture of a computer that isn't plugged into the internet. The larger the network the easier the target because you just need to gain access to one machine on the network to start monitoring traffic that can get higher profile usernames and passwords for getting to some real stuff.

That being said, we are placing some trust in Sony that they did appropriately firm up their network as best as possible. Seeing as they haven't been hacked for years after it was brought back up we can assume that is true. However, I no longer personally use cards on the PSN. I use gift cards. In any event, it should also be noted that the network service is free.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

Well the PS3 was an affordable Blu Ray player at the time so I suppose you could sell the multimedia thing better, but frankly the Xbone isn't doing what my PS3 already can do. Seeing as how we can purchase PlayTV here in Aus it essentially does everything Xboxes presentation said it did, minus the OBSERVING YOU AT ALL TIMES.

Here's hoping they bust out some more exclusives at E3 or something, inFAMOUS is great, but I need another Ratchet and Clank or something. Start shoving money at Insomniac again to make Overstrike for the PS4, and make it about Spies goddammit.

 

[DarklordKyo]

Sony is basically screaming as hard as it can. "WE ARE NOT MICROSOFT"

It's a good marketing strategy now that everyone is pissing on M$ so much that the PS4 looks like a fucking dream come true. Not mine of course, I am after all one of the master gaming race.

Neo Geo Pocket gamer, huh?

Pft those guys are nabs, real master race are gamers who recode their games to work on a fucking tamagotchi!

Psh... I play turn-based strategy games by doodling on napkins at IHOP. Truly I am the hardcore-est of them all!

Forget that, TI-84 Calculator all the way

 

[Frotality]

well sony at least recognizes that a game console is for playing games, so thats one advantage they have over microsoft. its decent evidence that they arent gonna make the same calibur of mistake, but im sure theyve got some sneaky tricks up their sleeves...

 

[faefrost]

Can you imagine this kind of thing in other industries? What if Porsche and Ferrari were about to launch their latest small penis compensators and Ferrari felt the need to make a statement about how the new Ferrari Spaghetti 9820-i Sport GT also went forwards and backwards whilst the Porsche Ravioli GT Sport Turbo was more of a multimedia device.

It's easy to imagine. Have you ever heard the story of how and why Lamborghini started to make sports cars? They were a Tractor manufacturer. The owner, a successful businessman who like Ferrari's happened to have a meeting with the President of Ferrari. In the meeting he indicated that the Ferrari's were excellent cars, except for a flaw he saw in the clutch. Instead of paying attention to a valued customer, the Ferrari boss declared 'Well you may know how to drive a tractor, you obviously have no idea how to drive a Ferrari!" (In other words "Deal With It!"). The Laborghini President went home pissed, and immediately started making sports cars.

 

[Do4600]

"Whoa! Whoa! Wait a minute. Hold it. W-wait a minute. Y-you gotta understand, man. I-I never even saw these assholes before...You gotta tell 'em you don't know me. We never met. Tell him."

-Ashley James "Ash" Williams, Army of Darkness

Just to distance themselves as much as possible from Microsoft's approach. People at Sony must be laughing their asses off right now.

 

[FoolKiller]

Sony is basically screaming as hard as it can. "WE ARE NOT MICROSOFT"

It's a good marketing strategy now that everyone is pissing on M$ so much that the PS4 looks like a fucking dream come true. Not mine of course, I am after all one of the master gaming race.

Neo Geo Pocket gamer, huh?

What are you on? The real gamer plays Dreamcast VMU games.

Also, Sony is looking very competitive at the moment.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Something I would like someone to check, because this thought has been nagging me for a while. Could someone note down any similarities between the PS3 and the Xbone reveal?

 

[Chester Rabbit]

It's about time they started taking advantage of this situation.

 

[Gregg Johnson]

I do love how Sony's got such good press right now. It's as if people have completely forgotten about the fact they removed an advertised feature of their console (other OS) and also stored people's details in plain text files, which made them easily accessible during the whole hacking thing.

Meh, companies can do anything they want these days. I'm not judging honestly, I still have my PS3 haha.

Not sure why the second OS would matter when they have an additional processor dedicated for updates. Is there a reason you'd like another OS and did they actually promise one for the PS4?

And I have absolutely no idea what having a "processor dedicated for updates" has anything to do with them removing the ability to put Linux on our PS3.

This post makes you sound like one of those guys that thinks he can talk computers even when he doesn't know anything about them.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

If you want to reassure us, just come out and say you aren't blocking used games and won't do always online.

Fairly sure Sony has already said both those things.

In other words, they're pissing all over Microsoft without even trying.

 

[Tsaba]

Bravo Sony, bravo. If they pull this off and we can return to the glory days similar to that of the PS2 I will be so freaking happy. Now if you would get a sequel released of Dark Cloud I just might go to jail for biting some ones face off at Target trying to get one.

 

[Lightknight]

I do love how Sony's got such good press right now. It's as if people have completely forgotten about the fact they removed an advertised feature of their console (other OS) and also stored people's details in plain text files, which made them easily accessible during the whole hacking thing.

Meh, companies can do anything they want these days. I'm not judging honestly, I still have my PS3 haha.

Not sure why the second OS would matter when they have an additional processor dedicated for updates. Is there a reason you'd like another OS and did they actually promise one for the PS4?

And I have absolutely no idea what having a "processor dedicated for updates" has anything to do with them removing the ability to put Linux on our PS3.

This post makes you sound like one of those guys that thinks he can talk computers even when he doesn't know anything about them.

This was promised to be available on the ps4? Or are you complaining that they patched over it on the ps3? I thought perhaps you were referring to the Xbone having multiple OS's running alongside one another to allow rapid transfer between processes.

I'm not sure why you'd expect them to keep the OtherOS around after the security breaches were discovered and publicly revealed by the person who found it.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27850/Firmware_Upgrade_To_Disable_PS3_Other_OS_Feature.php

An extremely small user base of the ps3 would have been using linux, so there's no wonder about the little concern over that matter. In any event, I'd far rather the OS be removed than to have had a second massive security breach (though we don't know if a linux based attack would have prompted the improved security sooner and thereby prevented the attack that happened in 2011).

It's not like Sony was being a jerk about it. Someone announced a significant vulnerability it caused and Sony's best course of action was to remove it. There's a big difference between a company being evil/greedy and doing something to thwart customers vs doing something to protect customers even though some are against it.

 

[faefrost]

Something I would like someone to check, because this thought has been nagging me for a while. Could someone note down any similarities between the PS3 and the Xbone reveal?

They are using similar processor architecture. Intel x86. Both are offering I believe 4 Gb of system RAM. They will both be using a high speed RF mechanism to talk with the controllers. Both using off the shelf GPU's either nVidia or ATI.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Something I would like someone to check, because this thought has been nagging me for a while. Could someone note down any similarities between the PS3 and the Xbone reveal?

They are using similar processor architecture. Intel x86. Both are offering I believe 4 Gb of system RAM. They will both be using a high speed RF mechanism to talk with the controllers. Both using off the shelf GPU's either nVidia or ATI.

I was actually referring to the actual PS3, not the PS4. I think the reveals for the 'current' gen Playstation and the next Microsoft consoles will have similar segments.

Thanks for the info though.

 

[FalloutJack]

A little follow-through with your statements and adding things that we actually want, and we can do business.

 

[Elvis Starburst]

Between Sony and Microsoft, Sony already has my vote so far. Just as long as they don't screw up the PS4... Still need to get my hands on a WiiU though. Only when the exclusives start pushing out, though~

 

[darksakul]

Of course they are going to say this after all the rage Microsoft has been getting for touting everything about the Xbox One BUT gaming.

Very smart move on Sony's part, from a PR stand point.

I am just curious if in the future, they change their tune to "oh but it does all this other stuff too!" To avoid looking like a 1-trick pony-when in reality, that is what most gamers want. A dedicated gaming only console.

I also bet that at E3, Microsoft will embellish the fact that this is a "gaming console above all else" or something- just to try and save a little bit of face from sony.

I don't think that's necessarily true. I don't think most gamers want a purely gaming-only console, and nobody here thinks the PS4 doesn't also have the ability to play movies and TV and browse the internet and have apps on it and serve other purposes beyond video games (especially since the PS3 already does all of that). But gamers want a gaming console with multimedia features as an addition that supports its primary functionality of playing games - that is, making an already attractive gaming console more functional - and not a multimedia box that also plays games as an afterthought. Sony isn't changing their tune here at all.

Remember when the PS3 came out and they marketed it as a blu-ray player? Lots of gamers use their PS3 to play blu-ray discs and DVDs, including me, but they bought it for the games first, and the added features gave it an additional purpose that we were quite happy to use because it saved us buying a blu-ray player. No non-gamer looked at the PS3, which was way more expensive than any blu-ray player, and decided they were going to buy it. Most non-gamers don't want a gaming console.

So, basically, gamers want a system that is primarily engineered towards gaming. If the console has other additional features that make your life better, that's awesome, but that's just an ornament to the console. Those peripheral functions are not its core, especially when you consider that not all gamers are going to be interested in using those functions, but all gamers are interested in games.

I'm never going to stream TV or movies through my consoles. I have other things I already use for that. Don't sell me on features other devices already provide me with. Sell me a next-generation gaming system, because I don't have one of those yet.

Actually right at the PS3 Launch a standard Blu Ray player had a higher price than the PS3 did.
Before the PS3 launch a Blu ray player was $1,000. The PS3 was $499.99.

Now all they have to do is confirm they have no nefarious plans in regards to used games or always-online and they will have sealed the deal. The road to victory has never been so crystal clear for them... we can only hope their executives will see the light!

Amen to that

Sony is basically screaming as hard as it can. "WE ARE NOT MICROSOFT"

It's a good marketing strategy now that everyone is pissing on M$ so much that the PS4 looks like a fucking dream come true. Not mine of course, I am after all one of the master gaming race.

Neo Geo Pocket gamer, huh?

Pft those guys are nabs, real master race are gamers who recode their games to work on a fucking tamagotchi!

Psh... I play turn-based strategy games by doodling on napkins at IHOP. Truly I am the hardcore-est of them all!

I use rocks and some sand for my turn-based strategy game. Monster Capturing? Well there wild animals in the woods, that would do right?

You know its bad enough where Notch is working his way out of his contract with MS over the XBLA Minecraft deal. Hes sick with dealing with MS and Sony just gave him a E3 Sony Press Invite in the form of a Golden PS One. MS gave him headaches, Sony gave him a console spray painted gold that plays FF7.

I also have this

The tables have turned.