Sony Touts PS4 As the Most Powerful Gaming Device Ever

[knight steel]

I get it your better than us, were lower idiot's while your so smart and powerful....NOW CAN YOU PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT IT!!
Thank you ^_^

 

[00slash00]

And out come the PCletists.

Fine you guys have better specs on your computers. PS4's hardware is speculted to run something between $400-600. How many of your gaming rigs cost that little?

i dont think anyone would deny that high end gaming pcs cost more, but the claim wasnt that the ps4 will be the most powerful gaming device for the price range. if the claim was that it would be the most powerful gaming device, period, then thats just a flat out lie

 

[vasiD]

My gaming PC that I built a year ago is stronger than the PS4.

I watched the Sony conference and feel half-retarded from how many buzzwords they were throwing at me.

A lot of hot air with nothing behind it. Whatever though, either way PC gamers won, now console shit will start using better specs allowing for prettier ported games from our favorite studios, and Sony also showed that it can't spare the cash to make their system truly next gen with a lot of current PC builds surpassing or at least meeting their specs so perhaps more gamers will flock to PC.

Again though, if not, whatever, it's good to know that my year old PC will at the very least be able to handle the next ten years of console development (and then some once I SLI the graphics card).

 

[Gatx]

I'm not going to join in on the whole PC thing, but just gotta say way to state the obvious - of course the most current console is going to be the most powerful gaming device of all time. What's the competition? The last generation and everything that came before? I guess it makes for a good headline...

 

[Something Amyss]

Well, that was a massive lie. I'll admit that the 8GB RAM for a console impresses me to a degree, but a console will never overtake the hardware in PCs.

Yeah, my computer is rnning 8 GB. Not exactly mindblowing, even if it is a serious step up.

 

[Sean951]

I can only respond with a resounding "meh."

Except for a few exclusives, I see no reason to get a PS console. Most of the games will also get ported to a PC, and I just spent more than I should have putting my rig together.

Meanwhile, Nintendo has developed and entire console that I can't emulate on my PC that will also have the 2 console franchises that I love the most, as well as several others that I enjoy the hell out of.

 

[Strazdas]

Well sony does look to try and pull a "we are powerful rawr" thing. lets hope they learnt from past mistakes and are truly going to make it pwoerful. at least for a coupl years till PC leaves it in the dust. this "unspecified" leaves a lot to be desired though. the only thing we know is that it has average amount (8gb) of very fast (DDR5) ram. and thats it. but considering that in PS3 ram was the worst part, maybe they were trying to emphasize it more.

Let's hope this power doesn't translate into a bull in a china shop.

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i think your using it wrong.

 

[Bitcoon]

Cerny said every console up to this point was intended to be a game console first, but that the network possibilities have changed all that.

Welcome to the brave new world folks. Where the primary function of a game console is no longer to play games.

Yeah, I don't like that either. At least Nintendo is still focused on making Game Consoles for the Games, but everyone here keeps branding them as a bunch of losers.

It's as if we want Game Consoles to no longer focus on Games...

Nintendo means well, they really do. We just wish they would stop forcing their experimental peripherals on us as mandatory items for their consoles.

Sony did that. (the not-forcing thing, I mean) And look how well the Move sold!

Yeah, if you make it optional, you sever your userbase and ultimately doom your innovative hardware to failure, because no developer wants to pour resources into a game that uses something in a truly unique way to where it requires a control solution most system owners don't have.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

The non-specifics of the hardware is really annoying. I'll say this though, 2 Teraflops is impressive for a console. My 660Ti does 2.5 Teraflops. 2 Teraflops puts it at least a high end first gen DX11 card.

That's 2 teraflops for the entire system not just the GPU.

Why they would go with x86 architecture is just confusing for me.

As has been said before x64 is also known as x86-64 (in fact x86-64 is it's technical designation).

The real odd thing about the choice is how they've, possibly inadvertantly, made it a lot easier for the emulation scene as translating between different architectures is always the biggest hurdle, both programming wise and resource wise.

 

[Nieroshai]

Apart from, you know, any modern gaming PC.
I do like consoles and I've got nothing against them but pretending that your new console is "the most powerful gaming device ever" is complete bull as long as PCs exist.

as long as MODDED pcs OVER $2K exist. For its price point, it's more powerful per dollar. Not every PC out there is cutting edge, and very few copies of any PC game are ever run at max specs. When my rig was new, I still had to run medium on games that came out in the next three years. No console has ever had that problem, as they always run the equivalent of "high" (note: I didn't say "very high") up until the end of their ten year run. A console will never lag because of background processes, will always have exactly the RAM the game requires, and dedicates every bit of its processing power to the game. You'd be lying if you told me an out-of-the-box PC could say the same and stay useful for gaming for 10 years.

 

[spartandude]

And out come the PCletists.

Fine you guys have better specs on your computers. PS4's hardware is speculted to run something between $400-600. How many of your gaming rigs cost that little?

Mine did. You can build a decent gaming PC for around $600 bucks these days.

same, im about to completely overhaul mine (which will likely be more powerful than the ps4) for about £500 at most

 

[spartandude]

Apart from, you know, any modern gaming PC.
I do like consoles and I've got nothing against them but pretending that your new console is "the most powerful gaming device ever" is complete bull as long as PCs exist.

as long as MODDED pcs OVER $2K exist. For its price point, it's more powerful per dollar. Not every PC out there is cutting edge, and very few copies of any PC game are ever run at max specs. When my rig was new, I still had to run medium on games that came out in the next three years. No console has ever had that problem, as they always run the equivalent of "high" (note: I didn't say "very high") up until the end of their ten year run. A console will never lag because of background processes, will always have exactly the RAM the game requires, and dedicates every bit of its processing power to the game. You'd be lying if you told me an out-of-the-box PC could say the same and stay useful for gaming for 10 years.

to be honest mate you must be really bad at bargain hunting, what specs we do know about the ps4 can easily be brought at this time for roughly the same price £400-£600, and probably towards the lower end of that while theres a good chance the PS4 will be at the higher end

and by the time the ps4 does come out that pc will be much cheaper with a more powerful pc being at the price of the PS4
not to mention if already have a pc you dont need to replace it, just upgrade some parts which is even cheaper to do.

and interms of the lagging, games can lag on both consoles and pc depending on the game and if YOU have anything else running in the background

i will partially concede that last point to you, im actually running on a 5-6 year old system right now and im maybe a month or two from upgrading, and while it can run alot of new games i do need it on lower settings, but then again depending on how well the game is optimized often still looks as good as a console version

 

[Tradjus]

"Highly enhanced PC GPU" he says.
What he means, of course, is "Bargain bulk buy four year old Nvidia GPUs they still had pallets of at the warehouse."

 

[Pilkingtube]

I'm a bit confused, isn't Jaguar (the processor they're using) AMD's version of an Intel Atom? Seems like an odd choice to put a netbook architecture into a console?

 

[lapan]

According to the internet, everyone has a bleeding edge PC at all times.

I wonder if you get the same kind of attitude on Forums dedicated to Petrol Heads (or car enthusiasts)
"News just in. Chevrolet announces new model of Camaro"
"lol noobs, I'll stick to my Ferrari, thanks"

FYI, you PC people should be happy that there is more incentive for game developers to use all that fancy new DirectX 11 goodness, instead of considering it a waste of resources because you know, more console gamers.

I was really happy for you PC guys and girls when nVidia announced there new hardcore Titan graphics card, why can't you be happy for us console gamers aye?

We are happy for you, but that doesn't mean we won't laugh at stupid marketing statements.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

*Sigh* I'm not even bothered about Sony's current trends in marketing but I again like always will be disappointed at how badly PC elitists will react to such trigger words and how they need to tout their superiority like some dick waving contest.

This is what every console thread looks like on the Escapist whenever PC elitsts decide to step in and dick wave because they realy have nothing better to do than spout the same fact crap all over again like a forceful Germany from the 1940's.

 

[Legion]

People are missing the point.

There is no such thing as a "gaming PC", there is a PC with the hardware that allows it to play games very well. The primary purpose of a PC is not to play games, even if it is what an individual does primary use theirs for.

When they said the most powerful gaming device, they mean the most powerful device designed to play games. As in, it's primary function is to play games.

 

[Piorn]

We don't need "powerful systems", we need good games.
For all I care, they could keep the PS3 and start making more interesting exclusives.
But I guess a sparkly new shooter makes more money...

 

[Adon Cabre]

Most powerful gaming device ever... with the exception of any PCs.

And really, a 32bit CPU?
Ok, maybe he means an X86-64 CPU, but just saying X86... That could be anything back to 16 bit computing, and is more commonly used to describe 32bit programs and such so... Yeah...

Not high hopes for this. What sounds like a meh CPU, an undefined GPU that will probably be a 560 equivalent, maybe a 570 or 580 if we're lucky, and 8Gb of RAM. Yeah... No. As said by Waaghpowa, I could probably build a PC equivalent to this for $600, and I've got a $1500 budget for one of my friends computers. He's getting a beast. Hopefully Sony is at least smart enough to release this for <$600, though with their $1000 PS3 launch here I kinda doubt that.

[HEADING=3]And to Think I Entertained the Thought of Going PC[/HEADING]

The console industry will flourish; and the future -- that is, for Microsoft & Sony -- appears bright as it's predicated on "the future". The controller looks and sounds innovative, and yet not half-hearted in any measure. Everything about the controller serves a specific purpose for the game and the console itself! The console just wants to please you; the PC wants you working for pleasure -- i.e customization, mods, user keys and downloads. All of this busy work gets in the way of experiencing the game. [HEADING=3] PC vs PS4 Spec Comparisons Are Moot[/HEADING] As long as the power is substantive and broad enough, you can count on human ingenuity stretch this console's capacity for their idea. Not to mention the consistency among the titles for consoles.

You know, its kinda true in that the console industry will flourish thanks to the stigma a lot of people still have about PCs [That is, thankfully, finally starting to die] - namely that they cost $3K, break all the time, need to be upgraded each year and are impossible to tell what will run on it, but otherwise... Yeah...
I mean really, that "The PC wants you working for your pleasure..." Yeah, bullshit. The PC works just fine without any of that. Its like saying the PS4 doesn't want to give you pleasure because it doesn't have customization and mods. Downloads... Pretty sure PS4 will have an online store too. CD keys I'll give, but they're not that big a deal if you can read.
And no, human ingenuity can't stretch the console's capacity for the idea. It can cut the idea down to fit the console's capacity whilst still maintaining much of the original idea, but Optimization isn't a magic Fix-All that you can apply to a game and suddenly run more stuff on the console's hardware. It doesn't work that way.

I don't think you understand how ideas work. You have quite a breadth of knowledge for technology, but you're stymied by this principle: [HEADING=3]There are Always Limitations for Ideas[/HEADING] You simply work around them.

[HEADING=3]PC Upgrades?[/HEADING] There are no misconceptions about a PC. No one's stupid, they know that investing money in anything will make it better, be it pc's, cars, houses, etc... But most don't upgrade their brand new vehicles; that's just silly. Everything is good enough to suffice. But why do people upgrade their houses? Why install pools and other in-home appliances? Because it raises the sticker price (value) of their house.

[HEADING=3]For Most Consumers, There Is No Incentive of Any Kind for a PC Upgrade[/HEADING] Why would I want to even open up my PC? Who cares about a slightly better textual resolution on Bioshock Infinite or Crysis 3. So is it ignorance? No. This is just how the market goes. Most consumers, like myself, put little value into having to invest time for research about PC's, and more time for $ to buy the appliances. Not to mention that most ordinary people don't want to be at their desks any longer than necessary. In fact, I already want to get off.

It's basic economics.

 

[Griffolion]

I guess the only reason why I like the PS4 is the x86 architecture it's working off. That means cross-platform development to-and-from PC will be much easier, and much more common. Everything else is unimpressive when lined up against a mid-range PC.