Sony Website Hacked By the "Lulz Boat"

[FalloutJack]

*Sigh*

Attention-seeking dumbasses... You don't stand for shit. Just admit that it makes you feel like you're the top dog and SHUT IT. Anything else is a transparent smokescreen, like a flimsy political agenda.

 

[Vanbael]

Bullshit. Sony Pictures doesn't even have anything to do with SCEA. Hackers need to cut the shit.

This, so fucking this right now. Sony did bolster their security, FOR THE PSN! Not the entire fucking company. When I saw Sony Pictures, I just about slammed my face into my desk because of A) Sony Pictures isn't the subject at hand
B) They won't bring down Sony
C) The only way you can bring down Sony is probably something from the Die Hard movies, cause a total network failure and forcefully bring down their empire with violence (just a theory)

I give Lulzsec 3 more hacks before coming down with a case of ADD and looking at a shiny new target.

 

[diggy140892]

Also... WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING THE HACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes Sony messed up in a big way but that does not make what these hackers are doing acceptable.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

I dunno. I'm just sick of reading about Sony getting hacked every week.

I've lost count of how many times the news here has had "Sony" and "hacked" or "hack" in the the title.

Seriously internet, lay off Sony. This wasn't cool in April either.

 

[diggy140892]

That is assuming what they are saying is true. As a rule I don't believe thieves. They stole thousands of peoples personal info how the acquired it is of little relevance passed the fact that they stole it.

Edit: Yes the only thing we as consumers can take from this is be carefull about what you put online.

They have no reason to lie, whereas SONY would have several.
Also they didn't do any of this for the money, they just did it for fun and humiliating SONY further or they wouldn't have put the data online.

I also find it funny that a lot of people seems to assume those people are from the US instead of Russia, Eastern Europe (Romania, Ukraine etc.) or Asia and that the "FBI" has any say in the matter.

Why are you defending the hackers... Just why...

 

[Sikratua]

They have no reason to lie, whereas SONY would have several.
Also they didn't do any of this for the money, they just did it for fun and humiliating SONY further or they wouldn't have put the data online.

"Jesus, guys. Sony sucks. I can't believe it was that easy."

People are saying that. If all they wanted to do was to lower people's faith in Sony, then they do, in fact, have a reason to claim that there was no security. The only way that Sony "has every reason to lie" is if you're already assuming that the hackers are telling the truth. You've placed part of the hypothesis as evidence that the hypothesis is true. And, in doing so, you've committed a logical fallacy called "Circular logic."

 

[MrTub]

That is assuming what they are saying is true. As a rule I don't believe thieves. They stole thousands of peoples personal info how the acquired it is of little relevance passed the fact that they stole it.

Edit: Yes the only thing we as consumers can take from this is be carefull about what you put online.

They have no reason to lie, whereas SONY would have several.
Also they didn't do any of this for the money, they just did it for fun and humiliating SONY further or they wouldn't have put the data online.

I also find it funny that a lot of people seems to assume those people are from the US instead of Russia, Eastern Europe (Romania, Ukraine etc.) or Asia and that the "FBI" has any say in the matter.

Why are you defending the hackers... Just why...

Why are you defending a corporation that clearly fails to use the basic protection for their customers?

 

[Jfswift]

I shouldn't laugh but that is kind of funny

 

[Kopikatsu]

That is assuming what they are saying is true. As a rule I don't believe thieves. They stole thousands of peoples personal info how the acquired it is of little relevance passed the fact that they stole it.

Edit: Yes the only thing we as consumers can take from this is be carefull about what you put online.

They have no reason to lie, whereas SONY would have several.
Also they didn't do any of this for the money, they just did it for fun and humiliating SONY further or they wouldn't have put the data online.

I also find it funny that a lot of people seems to assume those people are from the US instead of Russia, Eastern Europe (Romania, Ukraine etc.) or Asia and that the "FBI" has any say in the matter.

The US stopped caring what country they're from, actually. This month, the Pentagon is putting it's 'cyber defense initiative' into action. I already put up a thread about this with the article in question linked, but uh...the US government is willing to treat cyber threats as kinetic attacks and will mobilize it's armed forces in retaliation.

Yay 'Merica?

Also, NATO is prepared to get involved...but that article is already up on the Escapist's news.

 

[Nieroshai]

Hate to ask, but --and I've heard ad nauseum that hash tagging isn't very secure-- is a hashed password really "in plain text?"

 

[Sikratua]

Why are you defending a corporation that clearly fails to use the basic protection for their customers?

I'll translate.

"Fuck Sony. I don't know why. Just fuck Sony. I'll keep trying to reverse the question until people get so fed up with my shit that they stop asking."

But, getting closer to point, we're not "defending Sony." At least, I'm not. I see a group of people replying to the source article with "criminals suck." Then, I see another group shouting "yay, criminals," as though whether or not theft is wrong depends entirely on the difficulty with which said theft was performed.

Meanwhile, that second group is forgetting that every major moral code in the history of humanity includes some version of "Thou Shalt Not Steal." Notice, if you will, that it doesn't say "Thou Shalt Not Steal.... Unless the guy left his bicycle on the front lawn. If he did that, go ahead and take his shit. He must not have wanted it." Seriously, your logic astounds me.

 

[rsvp42]

Why are you defending a corporation that clearly fails to use the basic protection for their customers?

Why are hackers attacking Sony Pictures, a separate subsidiary that has nothing to do with the original inciting incident that started all this?

 

[MrTub]

Why are you defending a corporation that clearly fails to use the basic protection for their customers?

I'll translate.

"Fuck Sony. I don't know why. Just fuck Sony. I'll keep trying to reverse the question until people get so fed up with my shit that they stop asking."

But, getting closer to point, we're not "defending Sony." At least, I'm not. I see a group of people replying to the source article with "criminals suck." Then, I see another group shouting "yay, criminals," as though whether or not theft is wrong depends entirely on the difficulty with which said theft was performed.

Meanwhile, that second group is forgetting that every major moral code in the history of humanity has some version of "Thou Shalt Not Steal." Notice, if you will, that it doesn't say "Thou Shalt Not Steal.... Unless the guy left his bicycle on the front lawn. If he did that, go ahead and take his shit. He must not have wanted it." Seriously, your logic astounds me.

When did I ever say that the hackers are doing something good?

 

[MrTub]

Why are you defending a corporation that clearly fails to use the basic protection for their customers?

Why are hackers attacking Sony Pictures, a separate subsidiary that has nothing to do with the original inciting incident that started all this?

Probably cause it has Sony in it? Again why are you defending a huge corporation that cannot be bothered to encrypt its data when it has over one million users?

 

[MurderousToaster]

And they hope of accomplishing what? They got hack not long ago. They are just getting their shit together and they (Hackers) attack them again? For got sake, it's like beating a guy after he just got a heart surgery. It doesn't make you heroes, it make you a bunch of retard. Why not do it to someone else, like Microsoft for a change.

Sony.

You are shit. Seriously. It's now like any bored hacker can just think "Slow afternoon. I feel like stealing everyone's personal information on a site. I don't feel like a challenge today, so I'm just going to hack Sony."

Yeah, you are right... but for all the wrong reasons. You think it's easy to completely change a full database? It's easy for a computer, but not when there's million of info to deal with when the last system just got thrash. But, hey, some people get a sense of power for attacking handicapped people so why not.

I understand why Sony are experiencing these problems, but they are a multinational company with more than a couple hundred million USD to spare (that assumption running on their net income from 2010). They have the money to fix it, regardless of how difficult it is. If a company with that much money can't foil a loosely-connected group of hobbyist hackers, then it's clearly them at fault.

I also never claimed it was easy, anyway - but if they have literally hundreds of millions of dollars from last year's profits alone, they should really have fixed this by now.

 

[RoBi3.0]

That is assuming what they are saying is true. As a rule I don't believe thieves. They stole thousands of peoples personal info how the acquired it is of little relevance passed the fact that they stole it.

Edit: Yes the only thing we as consumers can take from this is be carefull about what you put online.

They have no reason to lie, whereas SONY would have several.
Also they didn't do any of this for the money, they just did it for fun and humiliating SONY further or they wouldn't have put the data online.

I also find it funny that a lot of people seems to assume those people are from the US instead of Russia, Eastern Europe (Romania, Ukraine etc.) or Asia and that the "FBI" has any say in the matter.

Why gods green earth would you say "man Sony's security was tough but we are awesome and managed to break it" if you were try to humiliate Sony.

All that would do is garner sympathy for Sony because despite their best efforts they were victimized by very sophisticated hackers.

When you are a relatively small group with very little resources going up against a giant, your best strategy is not to attack the giant head to head but instead destroy the faith of those who support the giant. Pretty soon the giant starves to death.

I personally never claimed there were from anywhere specific.

 

[Jake Lewis Clayton]

I really don't understand all these calls for lulzy hackers to stop.

They have done you the customer a favor.

A) They have highlighted a very serious sequrity risk (free forum programs encode data, but sony couldn't be arsed?)

B) If they pointed it out to sony, sony wouldn't of bothered till someone actually exploited it.

C) By publishing the details, the value of the list of information is useless, there isn't enough details to enable identity theft, and the list is worth $0, so they have taken away basically a large target for harvesting, by ridding it of its commercal value.


Customers should be annoyed, not with the hackers, but for sony for leaving the front door open with a welcome mat.

 

[Nieroshai]

That is assuming what they are saying is true. As a rule I don't believe thieves. They stole thousands of peoples personal info how the acquired it is of little relevance passed the fact that they stole it.

Edit: Yes the only thing we as consumers can take from this is be carefull about what you put online.

They have no reason to lie, whereas SONY would have several.
Also they didn't do any of this for the money, they just did it for fun and humiliating SONY further or they wouldn't have put the data online.

I also find it funny that a lot of people seems to assume those people are from the US instead of Russia, Eastern Europe (Romania, Ukraine etc.) or Asia and that the "FBI" has any say in the matter.

Why are you defending the hackers... Just why...

Why are you defending a corporation that clearly fails to use the basic protection for their customers?

No, no, he actually makes a good point. Let's compare to real life. Just because the security guard was asleep at the museum, it's okay to go in and raid the place? That IS basically what you're saying. Besides, initially they were hacked by Anonymous, who hack the Pentagon for fun, so whether they were secure or not is moot. If you're being fired at by a tank, it doesn't even matter if you brought riot gear like you were ordered. Sure, blame Sony for not being secure. They messed up. But in no way does that make pilfering data an innocent thing. We keep looking at this from a hero-villain perspective, with Sony as the villain. Is it not conceivable that both parties are wrong?