I was actually referring to the government debating this bill, and how this thread is about how moronic congress is being, but that works too.Lopsided Weener said:
SOPA Storms Back
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This act is like the piss-easy boss at the end of any given Resident Evil that, after you've defeated it surprisingly easily, transforms into an enormous, bad-ass tentacled monster.
Unfortunately, unlike RE boss battles, this bill is not at all awesome.
Unfortunately, unlike RE boss battles, this bill is not at all awesome.
I said it before and I'll say it again: just because the White House opposes something doesn't mean it won't come to be. In fact, I think the president's right to veto a bill is one of the most absurd and damaging features to American democracy. I say: put the bill up for a floor vote, let democracy work the way it was meant to.
But besides that, I'm a moderate SOPA supporter anyway, so to me this is actually moderately good news (and you don't get a lot of that in politics).
But besides that, I'm a moderate SOPA supporter anyway, so to me this is actually moderately good news (and you don't get a lot of that in politics).
Can I enact my rights as a citizen of the country and save American jobs by voting this guy out of Congress?
Actually, they all need to be replaced. Some of them have been in the spot for far too long.
Actually, they all need to be replaced. Some of them have been in the spot for far too long.
This is why I'm going to get an Irish passport so when I'm in Europe I can use it and not get treated like crap because of everyone thinking I wear a cowboy hat am 700 pounds and have a shotgun on standby.Digitaldreamer7 said:
All your little site 'blackouts' are doing is a short-term version of what you're going to get if the bill passes. If man one of you had any testicular fortitude, you'd just say "Fuck SOPA!" and continue on as normal.
Hooray for you. No, I'm not bring sarcastic or anything.
Hooray for you. No, I'm not bring sarcastic or anything.
If this passes, getting it undone will be a ***** and a half, AND the damage will likely already have been done.
If you've been active in getting this stopped, continue to BE active. It's the only way.
If you've been active in getting this stopped, continue to BE active. It's the only way.
Fuck sake, I had just organised a massive orgy in celebration for this shit being pulled... Sigh... Suppose i'll kill myself now.
You know, when there's a law up that claims Canada and the Bahamas are part of the United States (PIPA) and then the proponent of a similar law (SOPA) plays the "dirty foreigners" card.... I don't know what to make of it. It's jingoistic nationalism run completely amok. It's the sort of thing you expect to hear out of screwball backwater dictatorships. And for the benefit of companies like Sony and EMI, which aren't even American at all!
Guys, I know the bread and circuses is great, but you really gotta get off your asses and start another revolution. The last one appears to have failed at founding a democracy.
Guys, I know the bread and circuses is great, but you really gotta get off your asses and start another revolution. The last one appears to have failed at founding a democracy.
As you claim to have read the bill, you should know that (103.a.1) "An internet site is dedicated to theft of US property if it... is marketed by its operator for use in, offering goods or services in a manner that engages in, enables, or facilitates" copyright infringement. It took me five minutes to find this.The Cool Kid said:
IANAL and neither are you, but my high school English comprehension skills tell me that this paragraph means that any site that in any way allows the even possibility of copyright infringement can be called a site dedicated to theft under SOPA. Is it possible to make a forum post that infringes copyright? Yes, of course it is. Therefore, all forums are dedicated to theft according to the SOPA definition.
Which is fairly pointless when you acknowledge that the definition of a site dedicated to theft covers pretty much the entire web.
Also, 103.4 and 103.5 are not even parts of the bill. Paragraph designators take the form "number.letter.number", not "number.number".
But SOPA only applies to sites that can be accessed from the US. So it'd be fairly trivial for a Chinese site whose users are mostly Chinese to circumvent SOPA simply by blocking access to IP addresses in the US.Paragon Fury said:
He's using the "foreign thieves" codephrase obviously to mean the Chinese, to play on voters' fear of an expanding China, but that's not what SOPA is really about.
I'd look it up on Wikipedia, but...Exile714 said:
Thank God that I Can Has Cheezburger? is taking a stand for freedom.Robert Fuller said:
Also, Torrentfreak. What's a torrent site doing on that list?
I think that's kind of the point. They're saying "this is what the web will look like if SOPA passes".Aeshi said:
Cheers!Varrdy said:
First of all thank you for calm and eloquent response. I wasn't trying to argue his point (if there was any), only a way in which he tried to convey it. I agree that we need to keep a level head and make room for the smartest of us to battle these bills, but aren't they already doing that? A lot of smart and influential people are already on the "frontlines" organizing drives, letter-writing campaigns and surveys.
Considering how much has been written on SOPA & PIPA these last couple of weeks I think there are very few people that don't know what they're talking about. Community is free to voice their opinions however they want as long as it's clear whether they oppose (or support) these bills. Part of the blame for these exaggerated responses should be laid at irresponsible journalism that doesn't check its facts and leans heavily on sensationalism. As you said, only way we can be taken seriously is by proving we can think for ourselves and defying those who are trying to force this bill into existence.