Space Marine Gets Invaded by Chaos this August

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I'd like you could play as different Factions like Salamanders or Blood Angels and get special things for each faction.

 

[rsvp42]

I'm really glad to hear this. I was already excited for this game, but knowing I'll be exposed to the horrors of the Warp just makes it that much sweeter. Nothing quite like slaying heretics in the name of the Emperor.

August can't come soon enough.

 

[Scorched_Cascade]

I still don't think one marine would be able to stand up to multiple chaos marines at one time. The chaos marines have 10 millenia of battle experience
*snipped*

Well no actually as far as I know they don't. Because time goes slower in the warp it's only been a century or two since the Horus heresy to them. Hence why they use a lot of dated armor patters and weapons.

The time in the warp is as variable as all other aspects of the warp. For some areas it has been more than ten millenia. They have dated equipment because, short of looting imperial corpses, they have no way of getting better technology. They own whatever they had when they turned to Chaos and whatever they have looted off of chapters that have more recently turned to Chaos/chapters they have fought and beaten.

For the majority of Chaos Marines life in the warp is one of endless battle. Space Marines compensate for this by spending their downtime training but it's no replacement for actual combat experience.

To quote Eliphas: "Veterans of ten millennia of unholy war wait to grind you beneath the treads of their mighty boots"

I think a lot of writers forget that in 40k humans and especially marines are not the good guys. If anything that would be Elder or Tau.

 

[GonzoGamer]

This is good news. While fighting Orks is, I'm sure, loads of fun, they tend to be a bit straightforward as far as tactics go. Their idea of high strategy is either add more guns ("More dakka") or more sharp implements ("More choppy") and charge the enemy ("WAAAGH!").

You're obviously not familiar with the famed Gorkamorka offensive. It requires a shooty and choppy mob (with a hard tank or dread at the head) with some fast units to sweep around the sides.
Orks were enough for me (they were my first army) but it's damn good to see Chaos thrown in the mix too.

 

[Scorched_Cascade]

Just like in the fluff and tie-in books you mean?

Having said that, Chaos Marines aren't always purer in terms of geneseed anymore, and some of them are flat out crazy...I never bought Guillmann setting his dogma down in stone and telling people to follow it no matter what (given that he himself would deviate it) and that even if he did, the Ultramarines aren't above ignoring his rules when the writers of 40k feel like it. Also, did it specify Ultramarines?

Yes unfortunately Captain Titus is an Ultramarine in all their literature he is referred to as "Captain Titus of the Ultramarines"

About the codex thing? I know right it's just stupid. There is a book series about an ultramarine captain who to save a planet did not follow the codex, had he followed the codex the planet would have been destroyed.

His commanding officers did show lenience because of that; they called him a heretic and sent him on a penitent crusade to the eye of terror to prove he was a loyalist. Basically a one way trip.

 

[Master Kuja]

I'd like to complain that you only get to play as the poster boys for the Space Marines, but then I realise I'm complaining about a fucking TPS SPACE MARINE game, and must then promptly punch myself in the stomach for such foolhardy folly.

Unless the Guardsmen can actually act like Guardsmen in an FPS setting though, it'll be like shredding through paper.
Still, damn nice to see the addition of Chaos, though it was to be expected, an all Ork affair would have been dull.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Damn that sounded like a porn title...

 

[Rainboq]

My strategy for this game:

 

[jimborious]

I still don't think one marine would be able to stand up to multiple chaos marines at one time. The chaos marines have 10 millenia of battle experience
*snipped*

Well no actually as far as I know they don't. Because time goes slower in the warp it's only been a century or two since the Horus heresy to them. Hence why they use a lot of dated armor patters and weapons.

The time in the warp is as variable as all other aspects of the warp. For some areas it has been more than ten millenia. They have dated equipment because, short of looting imperial corpses, they have no way of getting better technology. They own whatever they had when they turned to Chaos and whatever they have looted off of chapters that have more recently turned to Chaos/chapters they have fought and beaten.

For the majority of Chaos Marines life in the warp is one of endless battle. Space Marines compensate for this by spending their downtime training but it's no replacement for actual combat experience.

To quote Eliphas: "Veterans of ten millennia of unholy war wait to grind you beneath the treads of their mighty boots"

I think a lot of writers forget that in 40k humans and especially marines are not the good guys. If anything that would be Elder or Tau.

Lets be fair in the 40K universe there isn't a good side, all the factions are pretty much the bad guys.

Take the Imperials, for every chapter like the Salamanders or Space Wolves(the best chapter by the way although i am fairly biased given that about £400's worth of them are looking at me right now.) who are always trying to protect the civilians/non combatants even against orders. There are dozens like the Flesh Tearers who knowingly slaughter innocents purely because they get a blood lust going (their almost World Eaters really just with fewer spikey bits) or even the Grey Knights who exterminate hives just to cover up thier prescence.

The Eldar will scarifice whole systems to save their own, the Armageddon wars where engineered by the Eldar because their Farseers believed that the orks would attack a craftworld, and even the Tau enslaved an entire race (the Vespid) because they wanted them as allies, i know the codex doesn't come right out and say enslaved but thats whats implied.

So there really are no good guys just varing degrees of grey area.

 

[Yossarian1507]

Blood for the Blood God.

Skulls for the Skull Throne of Khorne

FOR THE EMPRAH!

For the Greater Good!

 

[FlameOfArnor]

Blood for the Blood God.

Skulls for the Skull Throne of Khorne

FOR THE EMPRAH!

For the Greater Good!

I AM THE HAMMER!

 

[Bretty]

Please dear god add some guardsmen into it, it would be cool to protect them and in return get to take the Punisher out for a spin!

Except for the Space Wolves, do any Marine Chapters actually regard Guardsmen as anything else than expendable meatshields?

PS, here's hoping the Grey Knights and some Titans get involved. It's Chaos and a Forgeworld after all.

The Fireborn, Salamanders, believe that they are in fact there to save the untold slaughter of humanity. Their mission is that of human survival. They love the people the fight for.

I for one am looking forward to more 40k. The more 40k interactive products the better, as long as they are good and not crap. Crap would be crap.

 

[Namewithheld]

I still won't get my Ciaphas Cain FPS...

I think he's pretty much the only Warhammer 40,000 character that actually gets laid...(but I could be wrong, there's a lot of damn books to read)

 

[MrJKapowey]

Blood for the Blood God.

Skulls for the Skull Throne of Khorne

FOR THE EMPRAH!

For the Greater Good!

I AM THE HAMMER!

I am the Flashlight! (lasgun)

 

[Soviet Heavy]

As long as Chaos Marines are only elites or boss level enemies, it should be reasonable to see an Ultramarine slice through them. But if they come in a tactical squad then the Ultramarine will be fucked.

Titans will be in the game, though I am not sure if they will be drivable. There was an Imperator Titan in one of the trailers from last year.

 

[Worgen]

Im really surprised that you guys dont put more vids with these
looks like its coming together awesome

 

[Scorched_Cascade]

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I still don't think one marine would be able to stand up to multiple chaos marines at one time. The chaos marines have 10 millenia of battle experience
*snipped*

Well no actually as far as I know they don't. Because time goes slower in the warp it's only been a century or two since the Horus heresy to them. Hence why they use a lot of dated armor patters and weapons.

The time in the warp is as variable as all other aspects of the warp. For some areas it has been more than ten millenia. They have dated equipment because, short of looting imperial corpses, they have no way of getting better technology. They own whatever they had when they turned to Chaos and whatever they have looted off of chapters that have more recently turned to Chaos/chapters they have fought and beaten.

For the majority of Chaos Marines life in the warp is one of endless battle. Space Marines compensate for this by spending their downtime training but it's no replacement for actual combat experience.

To quote Eliphas: "Veterans of ten millennia of unholy war wait to grind you beneath the treads of their mighty boots"

I think a lot of writers forget that in 40k humans and especially marines are not the good guys. If anything that would be Elder or Tau.

Lets be fair in the 40K universe there isn't a good side, all the factions are pretty much the bad guys.

Take the Imperials, for every chapter like the Salamanders or Space Wolves(the best chapter by the way although i am fairly biased given that about £400's worth of them are looking at me right now.) who are always trying to protect the civilians/non combatants even against orders. There are dozens like the Flesh Tearers who knowingly slaughter innocents purely because they get a blood lust going (their almost World Eaters really just with fewer spikey bits) or even the Grey Knights who exterminate hives just to cover up their presence.

The Eldar will sacrifice whole systems to save their own, the Armageddon wars where engineered by the Eldar because their Farseers believed that the orks would attack a craftworld, and even the Tau enslaved an entire race (the Vespid) because they wanted them as allies, i know the codex doesn't come right out and say enslaved but thats whats implied.

So there really are no good guys just varing degrees of grey area.

The no good guys was my point. I meant the closest to good were probably Eldar or Tau and look at them they are hardly paradigms of virtue. Tau are implied to be mind controlled by their ethereal cast (who could be interpreted as allied with the eldar or in fact some form of Eldar).
While the Eldar, as you rightly said, would let whole systems burn to save a handful of Eldar lives. On the flipside, the Eldar also help keep Chaos in check, maintain the Black Library and hold back the Necrons. They are far more tolerant of other races so long as they don't interfere with Eldar plans or have not ever killed Eldar.

The Space Wolves are probably Humanity's finest (Ultramarines certainly aren't) but they are also probably the most inhuman of loyalist chapters due to the Canis helix. Also in the past they mass murdered the unprepared civilians of Prospero, burned it's city libraries and generally wrecked the place believing that the Emperor wanted it done (it was a ploy by Horus). They are directly responsible for the Thousand Sons falling to Chaos and by extension all the grief given to humanity by the Thousand Sons.

 

[boyvirgo666]

Blood for the Blood God.

Skulls for the Skull Throne of Khorne

FOR THE EMPRAH!

HUGS FOR THE HUGS GOD!

 

[drakythe]

I think a lot of writers forget that in 40k humans and especially marines are not the good guys. If anything that would be Elder or Tau.

Soul Drinkers FTW.

And as to the technology thing. My understanding was that 40k Tech was whatever 30k tech has survived the intervening millenia. So Chaos Marines who have experienced less time would actually be better equipped than modern day Adeptus Astartes. As I see it most of the 40k universe is a sort of 'Dark Ages' where-in history is misunderstood (thus the Godhood of the Emperor) and technological advance is shunned (thus the strict adherence to rules that the 'tech priests' follow)

And sometimes Space Marines are just that damn good, thats why they beat the Chaos Marines (See the Space Wolf Omnibus, or even better, The Grey Knight omnibus)