Space Marine Gets Invaded by Chaos this August
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I hope this is going to turn out better than the way the tabletop game is going. I don't believe I've ever seen a codex anywhere near as broken as the Grey Knights one is going to be.
That would be the case but:drakythe said:
-Their weapons (aside from relics like plasma guns) are produced from templates they find from the Dark Age of Technology (what they call the before time) as they have forge worlds they can mass produce them. Chaos owns one forge world in the eye of terror although it would be more correct to say that the Iron warriors own it due to the warband nature of Chaos.
-In the 10 millenia since the original legions turned traitor Imperial forces have discovered more templates some of which are better than the ones they were using.
From that point onward any forge world who owns one of these templates produces superior weapons and armour. Chaos armour is mark...2? (I think) loyalist is mark 4/5 (again I think).
Imperial forces also have better armoured vehicles for the same reason. You're right in that they ban experimentation though and that Chaos mess with theirs with sorcery/demonic intervention.
If you read the Space Wolf Omnibus Ragnar is never alone against Chaos Marines (if memory serves) other than 1 to 1 duels. If he was he probably gained some kind of injury that needed healing for longer than a few seconds. Ragnar is considered unusual among his own kind for his skill and heroism, space wolves are probably the best fighters and even Ragnar never one to one'd a whole squad of Chaos Marines as Titus is set to do.
Wow I need to stop posting in this thread for a bit.
The Salamanders arguably go further to protect civilian lives than any other chapter does (including the Wolves), which is a point of contention that caused some friction with the Black Templars during the 3rd War for Armageddon.fix-the-spade said:
True, but those are minor gods of chaos that have, so far, only ever appeared in fiction/background for Warhammer Fantasy. In 40K, they have never been confirmed to exist, and since the two settings are not canonically linked, despite an apparent link via the warp and extent older publications that suggest otherwise, canonically you can only say that there are 4 gods of Chaos (in 40K, which this game is about). The possibility of a lesser deity/power of chaos in 40K is still there of course, it's just that none have ever been explicitly created/mentioned by the folks capable of shaping 40K canon.Senarrius said:
Well, okay, you have me on a couple of the facts. But mostly I was pointing that out because it was stated earlier in the thread that space marines usually only won against chaos marines due to superior numbers. Ragnar (along with several others) have been known to 1v1 or even 1v2 on rare occasions Chaos Marines. The thing is, if their smart, the storyline here will involve more than one chapter of Chaos Marines. They have been known to interfere with each other on a regular quite often. If this is the case, then Titus might be able to link up with squads of Ultramarines and cause enough damage to stall the invaders long enough for nearby Chapters to send reinforcements.Scorched_Cascade said:
/2 cents
Oh good. Another game centered around the space marines. Really mixing things up, aren't you?
{Thinks it would be fucking awesome to have an Eldar-centered game where your warrior dies shortly before the end of the game and then lets you come back as a Wraithlord}
{Thinks it would be fucking awesome to have an Eldar-centered game where your warrior dies shortly before the end of the game and then lets you come back as a Wraithlord}
FOR PONY!!!boyvirgo666 said:
Those relic ppl...they made one of my favorite games of all time. Freedom Fighters. So im lil bit hyped now.
Also the game looks really fun. Somehow that scene where he charges into the Orkz band and starts swinging his sword....that reminds me of Devil May Cry :O
Ill prolly buy this just to see what the story will be. WarHammer games have interesting stories.
To all those going "Oh look, another game about space marines... yawn": You may have forgotten one particular venture into 40k where you played as a Tau firewarrior. Spoiler*... it was abysmal.
There was also an ork racing game, which was abysmal...
Currently the only good adaptations of 40k in games is Relics Dawn of War series. They generally allowed you to play as whatever race you wanted, within the limits of what was available. But they are RTS games. This is a 3rd person shooter/hack and slash. You can't create a story around any individual in any other race that can perform as well as a Captain of a space marine chapter. Not to mention, no other race has as many Lone Wolf heroes as the space marines.
They are the poster boys of 40k. There are more Space Marine fans then any other race. It would be stupid to choose a lesser. It makes more sense to use a Space Marine as a protagonist.
FYI... I'm an ork through and through... and I'm just happy to see orks in games other then DoW and that crappy racing game. Relic know what they are doing.
There was also an ork racing game, which was abysmal...
Currently the only good adaptations of 40k in games is Relics Dawn of War series. They generally allowed you to play as whatever race you wanted, within the limits of what was available. But they are RTS games. This is a 3rd person shooter/hack and slash. You can't create a story around any individual in any other race that can perform as well as a Captain of a space marine chapter. Not to mention, no other race has as many Lone Wolf heroes as the space marines.
They are the poster boys of 40k. There are more Space Marine fans then any other race. It would be stupid to choose a lesser. It makes more sense to use a Space Marine as a protagonist.
FYI... I'm an ork through and through... and I'm just happy to see orks in games other then DoW and that crappy racing game. Relic know what they are doing.
Ibram Gaunt happily disagrees.Namewithheld said:
Any FPS where you played as Guardsmen would be pretty cool (so long as it avoided being TOO generic) IMO. Participating as a line soldier in a massive assault involving Titans etc. would be quite the spectacle.
It is the ultramarine omnibus by Graham McNeillScorched_Cascade said:Yes unfortunately Captain Titus is an Ultramarine in all their literature he is referred to as "Captain Titus of the Ultramarines"thaluikhain said:
About the codex thing? I know right it's just stupid. There is a book series about an ultramarine captain who to save a planet did not follow the codex, had he followed the codex the planet would have been destroyed.
His commanding officers did show lenience because of that; they called him a heretic and sent him on a penitent crusade to the eye of terror to prove he was a loyalist. Basically a one way trip.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Ultramarines/Graham-McNeill/e/9781844164035/?itm=1&USRI=ultramarine (site i knew you could find the book)
Its about Captain Uriel Ventris of the Ultramarines, the omnibus only covers the first three books and at the moment there are six (I only read the first 4), book 2 is what your talking about (when he disregards the codex) and as far as i know the books after that is about his "crusade". Haven't read them in a while and like i said read only up to book 4 and (trying not to give too much about the story) he was still on a journey in that book. Need to get my hands on the other books, can't leave a series unfinished regardless of how good/bad it is lol.
But can't wait to try out the game, enjoyed fire warrior and the dawn of war games so far so really have high hopes and getting really excited to get into the combat face to face.
Not really no, considering the commanders of the Imperial Guard consider their own troops as expendable meatshields. The I.G are all about the tanks.fix-the-spade said:
Grey Knights usually are only shown if there are multiple Greater Daemons or Chaos is near total saturation. I reckon that there will be Ork Gargants and maybe a Chaos Titan. Space Marines dont have anything in their arsenal to topple a Titan. Unless like in the book titled "Space Marine" your squad infiltrates and takes control of a Titan.
In the book, the Imperial Fist scout team ate the brains of the Titan's pilots in order to gain the knowledge to pilot a Titan