There is definitely something aggravating about a piece of equipment that doubles as Second Chance Pro (which in turn is probably the single most annoying thing about the game, AFAIC).danpascooch said:
Spawn Camping Marathon Gets Black Ops Players Banned
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Oh sorry for white knighting, I didn't fucking know people aren't allowed to use game mechanics for their own benefit, are you just pissed you didn't think about doing it first?Thedek said:
I see you haven't been here long but attacking someone to get your opinion across isn't going to endear you to anyone here, especially when your opinion is hands down ass retarded, seriously? Complaining about players being banned for poorly designed game mechanics is the same as violent games and children?
Wow.... just wow....
Well, I would, given the reward was worth the risk.Hgame said:
Hey look, if there's a design flaw in the game which makes it easier to win with a particular strategy, it's the fault of the developers and I'm going to milk it for all its worth.Atmos Duality said:
Hehe, well played.Thedek said:
Based on how fast the people we respawning these guys were boosting against second accounts, or maybe paying people to do this against them.
Really? A temporary ban? The guys basically help the devs with their job! The rank rest is fine, but other then that, the guy who posted the video should be given a medal! Or is this their way of saying "We don't want to fix our game, but you guys better not say anything about it!"
Ya know what would fix this all? Being able to pin point exactly where you want to spawn. Say when you die, you will be able to scan the area in an isometric overview of the map with a dot pin pointing where you want to spawn. Of course, so that this doesn't become a direct strategy of ambushing, theres a 5 or so second timer after you select your point. Also, with games like capture the flag and king of the hill, there would be restricted areas.
This could help a game in three ways.
-It basically gets rid of spawn camping
-Reduces camping, snipers now to to be constantly on the move after their kill
-Helps new players get a better idea of the map
Ya know what would fix this all? Being able to pin point exactly where you want to spawn. Say when you die, you will be able to scan the area in an isometric overview of the map with a dot pin pointing where you want to spawn. Of course, so that this doesn't become a direct strategy of ambushing, theres a 5 or so second timer after you select your point. Also, with games like capture the flag and king of the hill, there would be restricted areas.
This could help a game in three ways.
-It basically gets rid of spawn camping
-Reduces camping, snipers now to to be constantly on the move after their kill
-Helps new players get a better idea of the map
And if only more players felt this way with online games!Hgame said:
One would assume that having any bug or game imbalance being openly exploited enough against honest players that said players would make it a point to inform developers. Doing so would help the developers know what issues to address, and if done properly, their fixes would then improve the honest players' time with the game. Unfortunately, I can imagine that many simply choose to "adapt" by using the same exploit that was used against them. If everyone ends up cheating to have a "good time," then something has certainly gone wrong.
Why ban them? They most probably bought the game, so they should get their money's worth. Not saying this should go unchecked, they should get a warning if they spawn-camped like that, but not banned.
I guess that's what we get from a "realistic shooter".
A few Unreal Tournament 3-style temporary spawn invulnerability would imediately stop this problem.
I guess that's what we get from a "realistic shooter".
A few Unreal Tournament 3-style temporary spawn invulnerability would imediately stop this problem.
They were banned because they were boostin, the didnt spawn-camped they BOOST the other team let themselfs get killed so the guy that make the video, will become a Youtube hero, but they get caught and got banned. they were cheaters and they deserve itLife_Is_A_Mess said:
lol i drop shot once, on accident while i was reloading i had to drop so i didn't die, other than that it just makes me mad, oh well.jonnosferatu said:
claymores don't have backward damage because they are shaped charges, they a made to direct all of the b;ast at the front to do more damage to the target. you can see the different because on WaW the bouncing Betty had a different damage pattern.
Do you realize that the OP says that they were doing EXACTLY THAT?-Samurai- said:
Anyway, I think they deserved it, if you exploit a game's mechanics like this to boost your level (Or in this case rank) instead of doing it legitimately, as far as I'm concerned you should at the very least suffer a reduction on rank/level/whatever point system you're using.
SIDEBAR: Now before anyone tries to bring up level grinding in RPGs, I will point out that there is a difference between eploiting game mechanics in a competitive multi player game and doing it in a single player RPG.
Well, it's good that they took action, but truthfully it does very little to address the problems inherant in the system. "Boosting" has been going on from the very beginnings of online multiplayer, and truthfully what is being done is a simple slap on the wrist. They need to come up with better ways of handling things, and far harsher punishments.
I've been of the opinion for a while that given the way the industry coordinates as far as business goes (price fixing, setting release schedules so as not to directly compete, etc...) they might consider coming up with some kind of universal blacklist for multiplayer games. Someone gets cost boosting or aimbotting or whatever in "Black Ops" they get put on the list and nobody will let them play any kind of ranked match ever again. A few examples of that, and I think people are going to knock it off quickly, especially if they start keeping track of identities linked to credit cards and the like.
See, these same dudes have been reset, but nothing prevents them from doing the same thing again (where they might not be so stupid as to put themselves on Youtube), and nothing prevents them from doing it in other multiplayer games down the road.
If video gaming is ever going to be taken seriously as a competitive endeavor, it needs to be properly policed and have harsh punishments. People who cheat in ranked games need to be handled just like athletes caught using performance enhancers, steroids, doping, or gambling on the sport they are involved in (to name a few things). Just as a pro-athlete will get banned from competition for life, the same should happen to people who cheat in ranked games.
I've been of the opinion for a while that given the way the industry coordinates as far as business goes (price fixing, setting release schedules so as not to directly compete, etc...) they might consider coming up with some kind of universal blacklist for multiplayer games. Someone gets cost boosting or aimbotting or whatever in "Black Ops" they get put on the list and nobody will let them play any kind of ranked match ever again. A few examples of that, and I think people are going to knock it off quickly, especially if they start keeping track of identities linked to credit cards and the like.
See, these same dudes have been reset, but nothing prevents them from doing the same thing again (where they might not be so stupid as to put themselves on Youtube), and nothing prevents them from doing it in other multiplayer games down the road.
If video gaming is ever going to be taken seriously as a competitive endeavor, it needs to be properly policed and have harsh punishments. People who cheat in ranked games need to be handled just like athletes caught using performance enhancers, steroids, doping, or gambling on the sport they are involved in (to name a few things). Just as a pro-athlete will get banned from competition for life, the same should happen to people who cheat in ranked games.
They shouldn't be banned because of this, they're exposing serious flaws in the game itself.
They're not even hacking or using illegal mods.
Treyarch should be thanking these guys for finding such a flaw so they can proceed to fix it.
On a slightly unrelated note, did anyone else think it was bit stupid how all the members of the team that lost just let themselves be spawn-killed like that? If I was in their position, I would've rage-quit long before my death count exceeded 100. A close examination of the score-board at the end shows one player got 1 kill, and over 300 deaths. Who the hell would stay in that game long enough for that to happen?
They're not even hacking or using illegal mods.
Treyarch should be thanking these guys for finding such a flaw so they can proceed to fix it.
On a slightly unrelated note, did anyone else think it was bit stupid how all the members of the team that lost just let themselves be spawn-killed like that? If I was in their position, I would've rage-quit long before my death count exceeded 100. A close examination of the score-board at the end shows one player got 1 kill, and over 300 deaths. Who the hell would stay in that game long enough for that to happen?