Spawn Camping Marathon Gets Black Ops Players Banned
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Based on how fast the people we respawning these guys were boosting against second accounts, or maybe paying people to do this against them.
Really? A temporary ban? The guys basically help the devs with their job! The rank rest is fine, but other then that, the guy who posted the video should be given a medal! Or is this their way of saying "We don't want to fix our game, but you guys better not say anything about it!"
Ya know what would fix this all? Being able to pin point exactly where you want to spawn. Say when you die, you will be able to scan the area in an isometric overview of the map with a dot pin pointing where you want to spawn. Of course, so that this doesn't become a direct strategy of ambushing, theres a 5 or so second timer after you select your point. Also, with games like capture the flag and king of the hill, there would be restricted areas.
This could help a game in three ways.
-It basically gets rid of spawn camping
-Reduces camping, snipers now to to be constantly on the move after their kill
-Helps new players get a better idea of the map
Ya know what would fix this all? Being able to pin point exactly where you want to spawn. Say when you die, you will be able to scan the area in an isometric overview of the map with a dot pin pointing where you want to spawn. Of course, so that this doesn't become a direct strategy of ambushing, theres a 5 or so second timer after you select your point. Also, with games like capture the flag and king of the hill, there would be restricted areas.
This could help a game in three ways.
-It basically gets rid of spawn camping
-Reduces camping, snipers now to to be constantly on the move after their kill
-Helps new players get a better idea of the map
And if only more players felt this way with online games!Hgame said:
One would assume that having any bug or game imbalance being openly exploited enough against honest players that said players would make it a point to inform developers. Doing so would help the developers know what issues to address, and if done properly, their fixes would then improve the honest players' time with the game. Unfortunately, I can imagine that many simply choose to "adapt" by using the same exploit that was used against them. If everyone ends up cheating to have a "good time," then something has certainly gone wrong.
Why ban them? They most probably bought the game, so they should get their money's worth. Not saying this should go unchecked, they should get a warning if they spawn-camped like that, but not banned.
I guess that's what we get from a "realistic shooter".
A few Unreal Tournament 3-style temporary spawn invulnerability would imediately stop this problem.
I guess that's what we get from a "realistic shooter".
A few Unreal Tournament 3-style temporary spawn invulnerability would imediately stop this problem.
They were banned because they were boostin, the didnt spawn-camped they BOOST the other team let themselfs get killed so the guy that make the video, will become a Youtube hero, but they get caught and got banned. they were cheaters and they deserve itLife_Is_A_Mess said:
lol i drop shot once, on accident while i was reloading i had to drop so i didn't die, other than that it just makes me mad, oh well.jonnosferatu said:
claymores don't have backward damage because they are shaped charges, they a made to direct all of the b;ast at the front to do more damage to the target. you can see the different because on WaW the bouncing Betty had a different damage pattern.
Do you realize that the OP says that they were doing EXACTLY THAT?-Samurai- said:
Anyway, I think they deserved it, if you exploit a game's mechanics like this to boost your level (Or in this case rank) instead of doing it legitimately, as far as I'm concerned you should at the very least suffer a reduction on rank/level/whatever point system you're using.
SIDEBAR: Now before anyone tries to bring up level grinding in RPGs, I will point out that there is a difference between eploiting game mechanics in a competitive multi player game and doing it in a single player RPG.
Well, it's good that they took action, but truthfully it does very little to address the problems inherant in the system. "Boosting" has been going on from the very beginnings of online multiplayer, and truthfully what is being done is a simple slap on the wrist. They need to come up with better ways of handling things, and far harsher punishments.
I've been of the opinion for a while that given the way the industry coordinates as far as business goes (price fixing, setting release schedules so as not to directly compete, etc...) they might consider coming up with some kind of universal blacklist for multiplayer games. Someone gets cost boosting or aimbotting or whatever in "Black Ops" they get put on the list and nobody will let them play any kind of ranked match ever again. A few examples of that, and I think people are going to knock it off quickly, especially if they start keeping track of identities linked to credit cards and the like.
See, these same dudes have been reset, but nothing prevents them from doing the same thing again (where they might not be so stupid as to put themselves on Youtube), and nothing prevents them from doing it in other multiplayer games down the road.
If video gaming is ever going to be taken seriously as a competitive endeavor, it needs to be properly policed and have harsh punishments. People who cheat in ranked games need to be handled just like athletes caught using performance enhancers, steroids, doping, or gambling on the sport they are involved in (to name a few things). Just as a pro-athlete will get banned from competition for life, the same should happen to people who cheat in ranked games.
I've been of the opinion for a while that given the way the industry coordinates as far as business goes (price fixing, setting release schedules so as not to directly compete, etc...) they might consider coming up with some kind of universal blacklist for multiplayer games. Someone gets cost boosting or aimbotting or whatever in "Black Ops" they get put on the list and nobody will let them play any kind of ranked match ever again. A few examples of that, and I think people are going to knock it off quickly, especially if they start keeping track of identities linked to credit cards and the like.
See, these same dudes have been reset, but nothing prevents them from doing the same thing again (where they might not be so stupid as to put themselves on Youtube), and nothing prevents them from doing it in other multiplayer games down the road.
If video gaming is ever going to be taken seriously as a competitive endeavor, it needs to be properly policed and have harsh punishments. People who cheat in ranked games need to be handled just like athletes caught using performance enhancers, steroids, doping, or gambling on the sport they are involved in (to name a few things). Just as a pro-athlete will get banned from competition for life, the same should happen to people who cheat in ranked games.
They shouldn't be banned because of this, they're exposing serious flaws in the game itself.
They're not even hacking or using illegal mods.
Treyarch should be thanking these guys for finding such a flaw so they can proceed to fix it.
On a slightly unrelated note, did anyone else think it was bit stupid how all the members of the team that lost just let themselves be spawn-killed like that? If I was in their position, I would've rage-quit long before my death count exceeded 100. A close examination of the score-board at the end shows one player got 1 kill, and over 300 deaths. Who the hell would stay in that game long enough for that to happen?
They're not even hacking or using illegal mods.
Treyarch should be thanking these guys for finding such a flaw so they can proceed to fix it.
On a slightly unrelated note, did anyone else think it was bit stupid how all the members of the team that lost just let themselves be spawn-killed like that? If I was in their position, I would've rage-quit long before my death count exceeded 100. A close examination of the score-board at the end shows one player got 1 kill, and over 300 deaths. Who the hell would stay in that game long enough for that to happen?
i think its funny half the people posting on page 1 didnt read the whole story and jumped to the forums.
these guys are scum, their friends that helped them are scum.
this is just taking the whole tac insert knife boost to the highest level in a game mode with an extremely limited spawn point
to those booing treyarch for designing a game mode with amazingly limited spawn points or obvious exploits these guys arent doing anything new they are just doing it on a massive scale basically they just skipped the tactical insert and just went full on spawn camp
every game will have weaknesses that result from having many many game modes and gameplay choices and it is up to the players to report abuse when they find it so it can be fixed when possible or punished when necessary
in fact for the last 2 weeks i have been checking up on the top 50 TDM leader boards every week and posting booster videos to youtube every time i catch one because, ya know, fuck those guys......
these guys are scum, their friends that helped them are scum.
this is just taking the whole tac insert knife boost to the highest level in a game mode with an extremely limited spawn point
to those booing treyarch for designing a game mode with amazingly limited spawn points or obvious exploits these guys arent doing anything new they are just doing it on a massive scale basically they just skipped the tactical insert and just went full on spawn camp
every game will have weaknesses that result from having many many game modes and gameplay choices and it is up to the players to report abuse when they find it so it can be fixed when possible or punished when necessary
in fact for the last 2 weeks i have been checking up on the top 50 TDM leader boards every week and posting booster videos to youtube every time i catch one because, ya know, fuck those guys......
That's exactly what they did. The opposing team getting camped are friends of the campers that willingly helped create the video.Tankichi said:
And for the fourth fucking time because you are apparently that thick: TREYARCH CAN NOT BE CONTACTED ABOUT GAME BALANCE PROBLEMS BY ANY MEANS OTHER THEN DEMONSTRATING IT IN PUBLIC AND HOPE THEY NOTICE IT. Which they did.
Im not wasting my time reading all the other pages, but everyone on the first page who is all "way to go treyarch" and has that sentence oozing with sarcasm are being very blind. They arent playing the game right :/
The point of demolition is to plant a bomb and destroy the target, not spend 20 minutes killing and obliterating the other team.
And also, I'm sure a damn lot of you have complained about being quickscoped, dropshotted, camped, and every other shit "tactic" people use, because they make the game incredibly unfun for the people on the recieving end, and thats what people should get banned for. Ruining the enjoyment of a game by playing like a little ****.
SIDENOTE: LOTS of you people are freaking blind :/ they got TEMPORARY bans. TEMP TEMP TEMP, so maybe they just cant play for a week.
The point of demolition is to plant a bomb and destroy the target, not spend 20 minutes killing and obliterating the other team.
And also, I'm sure a damn lot of you have complained about being quickscoped, dropshotted, camped, and every other shit "tactic" people use, because they make the game incredibly unfun for the people on the recieving end, and thats what people should get banned for. Ruining the enjoyment of a game by playing like a little ****.
SIDENOTE: LOTS of you people are freaking blind :/ they got TEMPORARY bans. TEMP TEMP TEMP, so maybe they just cant play for a week.
Heh, for once, I have to say Treyarch responded quickly and efficiently to people cheating without using any form of hacking. Really have to give them some props for that, really.
Now, they should fix the spawn problem, as it is their own shitty coding that led to this, but at least they gave it an effort. And, hey, maybe this will have people thinking twice before being an asshole and cheating.
Now, they should fix the spawn problem, as it is their own shitty coding that led to this, but at least they gave it an effort. And, hey, maybe this will have people thinking twice before being an asshole and cheating.
Either way the point still stands that they are being punished for demonstrating a long maligned balance problem with no intention of abusing it themselves(the people being camped were friends of the campers). Then treyarch bans them, takes down the video and every single sheep on the internet is cheering them on for essentially censoring their goddamn bug reports.DeadProxy said: