Square Enix Finally Confirms PC Final Fantasy VII

[girzwald]

HALLELUJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOOO happy right now
Waiting since 1997, Square!

Just curious, what are you so excited about? You obviously have already played and likely own a copy of FF7 in some fashion. So, you are excited about....................... what? Achievements? Character boost? Cloud saving? Here is an answer to those.

Who cares. Stop being bad. Get a bigger HD.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

He said waiting since 1997 and given that the game came out in 1997 it isn't that big of a leap to make especially since the PC release was quite bug ridden. It makes newly released Bethesda games look stable in comparison.

So whats your point? The game was bug ridden ( not really, and there are plenty of user patches to fix these bugs ) so...........what?

My point was him saying he was waiting for the PC release is not a big leap of logic.

No steam release? bah

I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

Because then they have to split the money with Valve, and run the risk of Newell saying "Fuck it, let's give it away for $1.50. Frankly, if I were a developer, I wouldn't do business with Valve.

OT: I've lost interest in any Square-Enix game that doesn't let me beat my enemies to death with my car keys.

Also Valve still have to buy keys off them so if Valve are selling it below price as a loss leader and losing money it is their fault.

Again, what is your point? Hes been waiting since 1997.....for what? What "big leap of logic" are you not making? If hes been waiting for a PC release, he only had to wait 1 year after the PSX release. Since its been out since 1998. And its worked and still works on modern PC's due to user patches.

Again, what point about are you trying to make?

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

That is exactly what you said in reply to this.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

I am saying that is not a lot of reading in between the lines to see that the original person in this quote chain might be excited for an official non bug ridden PC re-release. I don't see how I can make it any clearer. I already stated my point thrice now.

You said hes been waiting since 1997. I asked for what, and what was your point? Since its been out for PC since 1998 and bug fixes and improvements have been around for a long time, so what hes been "waiting for" is unclear. Because I do not believe for 1 second that someone who would have been waiting since "1997" doesn't know about such things.

You then said him waiting for "the" PC release was not a big leap of logic. That is not a point, that is a reiteration of your non point.

 

[Ickorus]

It's like Square Enix looked in their bank account and thought "Huh. Could do with some more money".

FF7 was a good game but seriously overrated, I preferred 10; I might get it on PC at some point but probably not right away.

 

[Doom972]

I thought I might get this until I saw this on the bottom of the sites main page: "Available Exclusively on the SQUARE ENIX Store"
I'm not using another digital download service. Steam is fine and I'm already stuck with an Origin account because of Mass Effect 3.

I guess I'll just dust off the old Playstation whenever I feel like playing FFVII again. Too bad.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

HALLELUJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOOO happy right now
Waiting since 1997, Square!

Just curious, what are you so excited about? You obviously have already played and likely own a copy of FF7 in some fashion. So, you are excited about....................... what? Achievements? Character boost? Cloud saving? Here is an answer to those.

Who cares. Stop being bad. Get a bigger HD.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

He said waiting since 1997 and given that the game came out in 1997 it isn't that big of a leap to make especially since the PC release was quite bug ridden. It makes newly released Bethesda games look stable in comparison.

So whats your point? The game was bug ridden ( not really, and there are plenty of user patches to fix these bugs ) so...........what?

My point was him saying he was waiting for the PC release is not a big leap of logic.

No steam release? bah

I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

Because then they have to split the money with Valve, and run the risk of Newell saying "Fuck it, let's give it away for $1.50. Frankly, if I were a developer, I wouldn't do business with Valve.

OT: I've lost interest in any Square-Enix game that doesn't let me beat my enemies to death with my car keys.

Also Valve still have to buy keys off them so if Valve are selling it below price as a loss leader and losing money it is their fault.

Again, what is your point? Hes been waiting since 1997.....for what? What "big leap of logic" are you not making? If hes been waiting for a PC release, he only had to wait 1 year after the PSX release. Since its been out since 1998. And its worked and still works on modern PC's due to user patches.

Again, what point about are you trying to make?

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

That is exactly what you said in reply to this.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

I am saying that is not a lot of reading in between the lines to see that the original person in this quote chain might be excited for an official non bug ridden PC re-release. I don't see how I can make it any clearer. I already stated my point thrice now.

You said hes been waiting since 1997. I asked for what, and what was your point? Since its been out for PC since 1998 and bug fixes and improvements have been around for a long time, so what hes been "waiting for" is unclear. Because I do not believe for 1 second that someone who would have been waiting since "1997" doesn't know about such things.

You then said him waiting for "the" PC release was not a big leap of logic. That is not a point, that is a reiteration of your non point.

Ok one more time for effect. He might possibly be waiting for an "official" PC version of FF VII that is optimised for modern machines by Square. Last I checked fan patches and mods are not by Square. That and if you don't want a rom or to pirate the game is quite hard to come by at a decent price. That is why the person might be excited and that is why saying that him being excited for another PC version is not reading in between the lines.

So stating that the person isn't pulling this idea out of no where because no one knows what that user actually thinks is a non point? You really can't see what is wrong with what your saying can you? You can reply again if you would like to have the last word but I won't read it and I won't reply.

 

[robert01]

HALLELUJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOOO happy right now
Waiting since 1997, Square!

Just curious, what are you so excited about? You obviously have already played and likely own a copy of FF7 in some fashion. So, you are excited about....................... what? Achievements? Character boost? Cloud saving? Here is an answer to those.

Who cares. Stop being bad. Get a bigger HD.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

Perhaps, but it didn't need a 3d accelerator to run, the computer I played it on did not have one. It was a modest P2 350Mhz (if I remember correctly), that used the software renderer.

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but if I remember correctly, that was still pretty decent, for the time. Just checked and according to wikipedia, the Pentium 2 was released in 97 and FF7 was brought to PC in 98. So, it stands to reason that if you had the relatively new P2, you had a decent video card as well. And it wasn't just about the video card, had to have a good processor as well. I remember when I first got it, it was choppy as hell and summons took minutes to pan out because of a PC and video card that could barely run it. Which probably turned a lot of people off like I said a few posts ago because their PC's didn't meet more than the minimum requirements.

Perhaps. That computer was a beast and kept on trucking right till the day I gave it away(wish I had kept it now, it would make a great router). But it very seldom problems running games that came out around that time that came with software rendering.

 

[HHammond]

I do not understand why people are moaning about them re-releasing this game. So what? If you're that against it don't buy it! It's not like they're making you!

I seriously don't understand the people who say they want a remake and not this. Surely the best way to prove to a publisher that you want to see a remake of an old game is to buy it! If VII comes out in this re-release and sells a ton of copies, isn't that going to make Square think "wait a second, that was just a re-release, if we remade this it's going to make even more money!" (although this assumes it is even possible to remake VII).

Also, the people saying that they should just hurry up and make XV, well I'm pretty sure Square have been having financial problems (or at least I could have sworn I had read that somewhere but I can't find it anywhere now) so re-releasing an old game like this would make them quite a bit of money that they could use to create XV or Versus-XIII! We all know it's incredibly expensive to make games nowadays, especially something as massive as a JRPG so why not help them out! If it's at the rumoured price point of £7.99 that's not exactly a lot of money. I could understand all the fuss if it was being released at full price but it's not.

 

[Epona]

I see a lot of hate in this thread, both against FFVII and against the re-release of it. I'm not going to bother touching the first one as I find that quite understandable. I myself start frothing at the mouth at the current generation consoles, CoD games, Sims, CnC4 and a heapton of other things. That's quite natural. The hate of this re-release however... well, let me try to explain why quite a few of us are excited about this.

Most of us did own the original, either on PSOne or PC. For me it was on PC and I can still rest my hand on the numpad and feel the muscle-memory start working. Playing some gameplay videos on youtube I grinned as the feeling from damn near a decade and a half ago started returning. However... the original discs that I still have around here somewhere just aren't as cooperative anymore. Yes, I'm computer savvy enough that I could get them working if I really sat down and spent an inordinate amount of time on it. That doesn't apply to everyone, though. Hell, it technically doesn't apply to me either as I've started to get lazy with my gaming. I just can't be arsed hunting down unofficial fanmade patches or setting up virtual machines or any of that jazz just to play the damn game.

Some of us don't have the original discs either. I was lucky when I managed to yoink the case out of a box of Ye Olde Shite that was heading to the dump. Others haven't kept the discs that they can't even get working.

Taking a quick look online shows that getting said discs will cost you a minimum of 30 bucks. Probably more. And that's without any guarantee that you can get it to run on your hardware or with your OS.

Then comes Squeenix with a re-release. Optimized for current PCs.

We frankly don't care if it's a cash-grab or that the game has been released before. Now it can be just downloaded and installed. Ready to play! From what the trailer shows it's also been scaled for new resolutions as well. No need to get unofficial patches to get the minigames to work. (Chocobos breaking the soundbarrier within 0.5 seconds of starting the race is probably not a good thing.)

I'll definitely pay for that. Hell, I'll pay all the way up to 29.99 bucks for it and it'll still be cheaper than getting a new set of discs for the original and it'll be infinitely easier to get running.

This is a game I easily spent over a hundred hours in fourteen years ago. That alone is worth paying for a re-release of this over any of the current five hours and done games on the market.

Finally some common sense in this thread.

Yes, maybe I CAN get my old discs to work in Windows 7/8 but I would rather not have to mess with that shit. Steam has made me lazy, I don't even want to seek out official patches, much less fan made patches and mods.

I looked up the instructions to get FF7 running on Windows 7, it's a long and drawn out process and not really worth the effort when I know there is an updated version on the way.

For all the haters though, calm down, you don't HAVE to buy the updated version if you don't want to. You can continue to install and run the old version or emulate it on ePSXe.

 

[FantomOmega]

Huh?
I have the PC-Version of this game already. Bought it years ago.
What are the News?

Your a better person than I since I used a emulator I think even BEFORE that.
...Wait you bought it right? >_>

 

[loc978]

...title fail. Needs the word "remake" in there somewhere.

I came in here to say I've had Final Fantasy VII on PC since 1999. Got it used for ten bucks.

As for the remake... goddamn, when are they gonna get around to VI?

 

[Epona]

...title fail. Needs the word "remake" in there somewhere.

I came in here to say I've had Final Fantasy VII on PC since 1999. Got it used for ten bucks.

As for the remake... goddamn, when are they gonna get around to VI?

It's not a remake. it's an updated re-release.

 

[loc978]

...title fail. Needs the word "remake" in there somewhere.

I came in here to say I've had Final Fantasy VII on PC since 1999. Got it used for ten bucks.

As for the remake... goddamn, when are they gonna get around to VI?

It's not a remake. it's an updated re-release.

sooo... it's not a potato, it's a root vegetable known as S. tuberosum?

It's an HD remake.

 

[Epona]

...title fail. Needs the word "remake" in there somewhere.

I came in here to say I've had Final Fantasy VII on PC since 1999. Got it used for ten bucks.

As for the remake... goddamn, when are they gonna get around to VI?

It's not a remake. it's an updated re-release.

sooo... it's not a potato, it's a root vegetable known as S. tuberosum?

It's an HD remake.

NO Final Fantasy IV DS is a remake, this is an updated re-release.

 

[Robert Ewing]

It may just be a re-release of a game I already have. BUT MODS GUYS. MODS! ECH, DEE, MODZZZZZ

 

[Siris]

So what?

 

[Meight08]

No steam release? bah

I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

Because then they have to split the money with Valve, and run the risk of Newell saying "Fuck it, let's give it away for $1.50. Frankly, if I were a developer, I wouldn't do business with Valve.

OT: I've lost interest in any Square-Enix game that doesn't let me beat my enemies to death with my car keys.

Ummm yeah valve can't do that unless the publisher says they can.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

No steam release? bah

I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

They probably don't want all the profits for themselves instead of giving Valve a chunk of sale. Can't blame them, its FF7 it'll sell regardless.

 

[Epona]

No steam release? bah

I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

They probably don't want all the profits for themselves instead of giving Valve a chunk of sale. Can't blame them, its FF7 it'll sell regardless.

It'll sell more on Steam.

 

[William Dickbringer]

....Or you could just make ISO's of the disc's and run the game in an emulator for PSX....

or maybe some people actually wanna buy it and didn't buy it when it came out and don't wanna spend big money on it or don't have a ps1 for it and don't want to put up with the hassle of getting the emulator to work right

Snip

again a psx emulator is a hassle to get working right and even if it did some people might not have the strong computers to run an emulator this serves as an alternative I understand you might not give a damn but there are people out there that do

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

No steam release? bah

I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

They probably don't want all the profits for themselves instead of giving Valve a chunk of sale. Can't blame them, its FF7 it'll sell regardless.

It'll sell more on Steam.

Minecraft didn't. Neither did Diablo 3. Point is FF7 is not a game that really NEEDS Steam to sell, as much of a nigh monopoly it may be.