Square-Enix Still Isn't Remaking FF7

scorptatious

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As much as I like FFVII, I probably won't mind too much if a remake never comes around. It would be nice though.
DustlessDragoon said:
I actually liked Yuffie but to each their own I guess. Her, Vincent and Cloud made the best team ever. Anyways I'm really not that fussed about a FF7 remake, it just wouldnt have the samey polygony charm that the original has.
I actually find the polygony graphics kind of charming as well. And this is coming from a guy who first played the game almost two years ago.
 

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Cecilthedarkknight_234 said:
BehattedWanderer said:
John Funk said:
In all of gaming-dom, is there a project more desperately desired and imagined than a current-gen remake of Square-Enix's legendary Final Fantasy VII?
An international release of Mother 3?

...said it wasn't a priority for Square-Enix. Rather, said Nomura, Square-Enix wanted to make new games that it hoped would equal or even surpass the titans of ages past.
And they intend to match the might of sluggers like Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Super Mario RPG, Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy III/VI by continuously making new, sleep-inducing, bland, uncharismatic FF sequels?

Good luck with that.
So another mother 3 fan, I love loved the game and the effort put into the fan translation for it however even if that game was brought over it would have to be localized.
I included that thought in the pan statement of "international release". It being released in Japanese only would probably mean it wouldn't sell as well as one could hope.
 

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I still don't see how the hell it would be any more work than making a new game, but whatever. I guess Squeenix doesn't want money and the good will of their fans.

Honestly guys, just make it already. I don't even like FF and I know that it's a very good idea to remake 7.
 

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Oh, Square Enix. How you disappoint me so.

I was a Square Enix fan. I wouldn't just buy their FF games (Which I love), but also their other not-so-popular games, such as The Bouncer or Musashi Samurai Legend (The latter was horrible, the former was alright). But as of lately, they're disappointing me.

I don't like FF7 so I'm not upset about the fact I won't be able to play FF7 again. I'm upset about their "artistic" attitude towards things. Al this point, Square Enix needs money. Their attitude right now is "Oh, well, sure we need money, but we're just gonna keep on doing what WE like and well, fans gotta like it, right? It's not about what they want. What do they know?!".

I was just checking the Gotham City Impostors forums and the game is a success mostly because the developers listen to their fans. You can see them interact with them and do changes to stuff according to what they'd like to see. Same with Double Fine's Kickstarter. Square Enix, as a company, should aim to make the customer happy before doing whatever the hell they want and kicking their loyal fans in the balls.

FFXIII and FFXIII-2 weren't that bad. However, Square Enix knows what we want. We want XIII Versus, which was delayed because of FFXIII-2, a game they pulled out of their arse not too long after FFXIII was released. They want Kingdom hearts 3, a game that was pushed waaaay back because they wanna finish Versus XIII first, so see above. They want a FFVII remake. People are literally throwing their money at them, at this illusion of a game. Their response? "Naaaaaah, maybe next time".

So what.the.fuck?

Square Enix, at this point, I would just settle with a good FF game overall. One of those old school one. Those games whose story was gut-wretching and you just couldn't walk away from. Go back to that, to the Square Enix I knew and you can have my money again.
 

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Ok how about remastering the game then? I mean come on THIS guy is getting remastered why not Cloud?
 

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Sylveria said:
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Waaghpowa said:
Yet they're going to do an HD FF10. It's obvious that they're not going to remake FF7 because of the money and time required to update it. It's the reason why there are so many HD collections from the last gen, all they do is widen the aspect ratio and resell it, which is significantly less work and money than updating a PS1 game. It all reeks of laziness and greed.

What's silly is I think that a FF7 remake would make a lot of money, but they wont do it because of the risks. I would have bought it, FF7 was literally the only FF game I could finish aside from Tactics.
One thing I think you, and many ignorant gamers, fail to realize is that while yes it might make a shit ton of money in sales, but if the project also costs a shit ton of money to produce then the amount of money that Square-Enix would actually see out of it would actually be quite small, if any. And if Square-Enix doesn't think there'd be a significant enough return on their investment, they're not going to green light a project. You can call them greedy and lazy if you want to, but they need to make money if they're going to continue to make games for you to consume and enjoy.

As for me, I wish people would STFU about FFVII. Hoenstly I don't see why it deserves such legendary status. Not that it was a bad game by any means; hell it's one of the few Final Fantasy games I've ever finished and it was the first I ever played. However, it isn't the best Final Fantasy game I've played and it certainly hasn't aged well.
Man you must work at Square if you have such in-depth knowledge about the development costs of the game. I mean, we all know most AAA games these days are super duper cheap and these huge corporations don't have any any money to spare, so you have to be absolutely right, being as well informed as you clearly are, that Square couldn't possibly see a profit from this venture.
That kind of smart-ass remark deserves a 2x4 to the back of the head, fortuitously for you this is the Internet and I cannot provide.
Waaghpowa said:
canadamus_prime said:
Waaghpowa said:
Yet they're going to do an HD FF10. It's obvious that they're not going to remake FF7 because of the money and time required to update it. It's the reason why there are so many HD collections from the last gen, all they do is widen the aspect ratio and resell it, which is significantly less work and money than updating a PS1 game. It all reeks of laziness and greed.

What's silly is I think that a FF7 remake would make a lot of money, but they wont do it because of the risks. I would have bought it, FF7 was literally the only FF game I could finish aside from Tactics.
One thing I think you, and many ignorant gamers, fail to realize is that while yes it might make a shit ton of money in sales, but if the project also costs a shit ton of money to produce then the amount of money that Square-Enix would actually see out of it would actually be quite small, if any. And if Square-Enix doesn't think there'd be a significant enough return on their investment, they're not going to green light a project. You can call them greedy and lazy if you want to, but they need to make money if they're going to continue to make games for you to consume and enjoy.

As for me, I wish people would STFU about FFVII. Hoenstly I don't see why it deserves such legendary status. Not that it was a bad game by any means; hell it's one of the few Final Fantasy games I've ever finished and it was the first I ever played. However, it isn't the best Final Fantasy game I've played and it certainly hasn't aged well.
You know that's what I was saying right? They don't think there would be a significant return on the game. Which is precisely why they're not doing FF7 and why they're all ok with doing HD versions of all the games from last gen. It's cheap and easy and guaranteed to get a decent return. I would say it's both lazy and greedy to capitalize on peoples own ignorance for purchasing the same game from last gen that required little work to produce, since the game was already made.
Well it's easy to pass judgment from the sidelines when you're not the one who has to consider all the factors involved. Besides, who'se worse, them for making these HD collections or the people who are stupid enough to actually buy them? You can't really blame them for giving the customers what they apparently want even if it is just a worthless gimmick.
 

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just so I'm clear, was anyone actually expecting a remake? don't get me wrong I'd love to see one, but they're not even the same company anymore, ever since Squaresoft became Square Enix I bought 10-2, 12 and 13, while I didn't hate 13 none of them even felt like a Final Fantasy game, it's actually my fond hope that Square Enix goes under and the rights to the IP go to someone else,

frankly I think even if they did remake FF7 they would find some way to ruin it
 

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You know what...?

Actually, I'm fine with this. Even if I've always wanted an FF7 remake, if they're trying not to become Nintendo in terms of their earlier achievements and creations, I support that.

All I want is for them to make a game that wows me again.I mean, I suppose ff13 did in that respect, but it was too frustrating in that things 1 hit killed me too much. Even my friends who beat Kuon didn't have the patience for it when I let them borrow it, and that's really saying something.
 

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But they want to troll us with a FFX remaster >.<
I bet you anything they'll remake VI then VIII just to piss us off ;P

I'm cool either way. I don't mind if they don't remake it because the game is awesome as it is.
But I will run out and buy any remake they do. Imagine Knights of the round in that gorgeous CGI. e_e
I think the problem is, it wouldn't be an exact remake. They probably won't be able to make it as open and will have to cut a lot of the stuff out or else it'll cosy waaaaay too much. And that would just piss off any fans >.<

If they ever do decide, at least they have the characters, storyline, dialogue etc etc already prepared.
 

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smart decision, Squeenix. The only people who would want a remake are fans and as we all know fans are fucking obnoxious, self-entitled twats that you just can't please.

The first thing people would complain about would be the VAs, then the graphics that aren't prettiful enough and then of course the "butchering" of a classic (though I still don't see what most people see in FF7). Fanboys suck >:C

besides, I bet they tried and they just can't bring themselves to redo aerith's death without crying so much that they kill any electronics nearby.
 

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Paragon Fury said:
I get the feeling that SqEnix has something against money. Maybe someone over there has a fear of drowning in all the money they'd make on a remake?
This is why I believe they're hiding the painful truth behind PR speak. If there was a reasonable chance that they could turn a profit on remaking FF7 they would have done it already. Either cost of production, some weird legal rights, market research on projected purchases or some combination of those has turned them off from the project. While not every company makes good decisions 100% of the time, they are ultimately in the business of making money. Hiding behind "we want to explore new worlds" sounds nice, but it seems pretty clear that they think a remake of FF7 isn't profitable enough.

Crono1973 said:
People keep saying it would cost too much to remake Final Fantasy VII. I call BS on that. In Final Fantasy VII they already have a designed game, story and dialogue. Isn't that like a year of planning (and salaries) right there?

They need to improve the graphics, hire some voice actors and clean up the confusing dialogue.

If they can afford to make new games then they can afford to remake FF7. The difference between a new game and FF7 is that people actually want FF7. SE's reputation isn't so great right now so a new game may be a harder sell.
Except those are none of those are time consuming or costly elements to creating games. Think about how long it takes a writer to pen some dialogue and compare that to working on a single texture.
 

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Lots of people would like to see a remake of FF7, but they are pretty quiet nowadays.
They've been quiet because it's been a while since the current generation of consoles came out and they've been told 50 times they aren't making it. At least HL fans are probably going to get another HL title eventually (and were actually promised one years ago). Wait for the next-gen consoles to be announced and we'll see if FF7 remake people stay quiet. I just hope Square doesn't release another redo of an FF7 FMV (or for that matter, that a gaming site or magazine doesn't indicate it's being made months after Square already denied it like EGM did back in the day) or I'll have to avoid the internet for a few years.
 

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I still want that FFV 3DS remake. That game's 20 years old this year. Alas, it won't happen. However, maybe for VII's 20th, Square will do something special in relation to VII's world.
 

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Scars Unseen said:
SmarterThanYou said:
Scars Unseen said:
Honestly, I think they should make an open world (single player) ARPG title. ].
They did, it was called Final Fantasy XII.
Eh... I would say that FFXII(which is my favorite FF in the past several years) was open-ish at best. Certainly better than FFX or FFXII in that regard, but then a noose would be less restrictive than either of those games. Also? Not an ARPG.

The thing that does it for me with Dark Souls and (hopefully) Dragon's Dogma is that it is nice to see a Japanese take on what was traditionally a western style of game. With Capcom you get a high action game(at least that's what I got from the demo) which makes sense because that is what they've historically done best. From obviously is channeling King's Field with their Souls games. It would be kind of cool to see what Squeenix's take would be since they have so many franchises to take inspiration from.

Of course, that could validate your post completely if you wanted to interpret FFXII as Squeenix taking the open world concept and making it less open. That would kind of keep the above theme going, though not in a completely positive way.
It's never going to be an ARPG, it's Japanese. xD

FFXII is similar to Xenoblade in the sense that it incorporates MMO concepts and elements of WRPG design (much wider open world), but keeps a JRPG sense of style. It's an interesting step forward for the genre, and I hope Square's been paying attention to Xenoblade for when the time comes to plan FFXV.
 

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Space Spoons said:
probably ditch the superb battle system for something closer to XII or XIII's awful "modern" systems.

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You mean the same Active Time Battle System they've been using since the mid-90s? yeah, that was horrible, wasn't it. ;D
 

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Why does the Escapist rewrite so many news articles from other places? Hardly news if you're just relaying a message we could get from your source >_>
 

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SmarterThanYou said:
Scars Unseen said:
SmarterThanYou said:
Scars Unseen said:
Honestly, I think they should make an open world (single player) ARPG title. ].
They did, it was called Final Fantasy XII.
Eh... I would say that FFXII(which is my favorite FF in the past several years) was open-ish at best. Certainly better than FFX or FFXII in that regard, but then a noose would be less restrictive than either of those games. Also? Not an ARPG.

The thing that does it for me with Dark Souls and (hopefully) Dragon's Dogma is that it is nice to see a Japanese take on what was traditionally a western style of game. With Capcom you get a high action game(at least that's what I got from the demo) which makes sense because that is what they've historically done best. From obviously is channeling King's Field with their Souls games. It would be kind of cool to see what Squeenix's take would be since they have so many franchises to take inspiration from.

Of course, that could validate your post completely if you wanted to interpret FFXII as Squeenix taking the open world concept and making it less open. That would kind of keep the above theme going, though not in a completely positive way.
It's never going to be an ARPG, it's Japanese. xD

FFXII is similar to Xenoblade in the sense that it incorporates MMO concepts and elements of WRPG design (much wider open world), but keeps a JRPG sense of style. It's an interesting step forward for the genre, and I hope Square's been paying attention to Xenoblade for when the time comes to plan FFXV.
Hrrm? What does being Japanese have to do with anything? Dark Souls is a Japanese game. So is Dragon's Dogma. So was Brave Fencer Musashi(an ARPG that Square made 14 years ago). And yeah, I know that FFXII was a RPG with MMO(FFXI specifically) features. That's why I was puzzled when you claimed that it was an open world ARPG.
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Why does the Escapist rewrite so many news articles from other places? Hardly news if you're just relaying a message we could get from your source >_>
Because not everyone wants to browse through dozens of websites daily to find out what's going on in the world(or hobby, as is the case with gaming). Following that logic, should we then have to go to the original source to find out what the fuss is about? I can see the headline now: "In Depth Interview with Minecraft Creator, Notch. If You Want to Know What We Talked About, Go Ask Him Yourself."