Square-Enix Still Isn't Remaking FF7

kenadian

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Square-Enix wants to focus on making new games? Well there's the biggest crock of shit if I've ever heard it. Not only have they remade pretty much every other FF that came out before it (add FF10 to the list now), he then throws us that nonsense? Oh Lord, not sure if I should be insulted or laugh at the utter cognitive dissonance of it.

Songblade said:
Suicidejim said:
inb4 FF7 hate. Also, while I love that game, and would love to have a remake, I'd happily settle for non-awful Final Fantasy games in general.
^ THIS. FFXIII was just awful... XII wasn't much better... didn't bother with XI as it was an MMORPG... didn't get into IX as the chars looked too much like kids... and VIII uh... meh.

When Hope in FFXIII was whining -backstory- whatever blahdiblahdiblahOMGJUSTSHUTUP... well, pretty much for all the characters. I didn't care about ANY of them.

X was good though - well, the first one - not that "I didn't get to play with dollies as a child" sequel ... terrible voice acting aside...

I kind of MISS the old battle styles. Now everything has to be flashy/fast/combos/seemless integration... and f*ck kids as main characters... just... no.

So... what was the point again? Hmm. Oh yeah. FFVII remake would be nice - AS LONG as it's not retarded like pretty much everything after it.
It's amazing how utterly wrong you are. It really is quite fascinating.
 

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Waaghpowa said:
Yet they're going to do an HD FF10. It's obvious that they're not going to remake FF7 because of the money and time required to update it. It's the reason why there are so many HD collections from the last gen, all they do is widen the aspect ratio and resell it, which is significantly less work and money than updating a PS1 game. It all reeks of laziness and greed.

What's silly is I think that a FF7 remake would make a lot of money, but they wont do it because of the risks. I would have bought it, FF7 was literally the only FF game I could finish aside from Tactics.
One thing I think you, and many ignorant gamers, fail to realize is that while yes it might make a shit ton of money in sales, but if the project also costs a shit ton of money to produce then the amount of money that Square-Enix would actually see out of it would actually be quite small, if any. And if Square-Enix doesn't think there'd be a significant enough return on their investment, they're not going to green light a project. You can call them greedy and lazy if you want to, but they need to make money if they're going to continue to make games for you to consume and enjoy.

As for me, I wish people would STFU about FFVII. Hoenstly I don't see why it deserves such legendary status. Not that it was a bad game by any means; hell it's one of the few Final Fantasy games I've ever finished and it was the first I ever played. However, it isn't the best Final Fantasy game I've played and it certainly hasn't aged well.
 

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Nomura, if they want to surpass FF7, they need to realize twitch-based menu navigation, 15minute trash battles, games being 99% cut-scene, limiting player influence in the game to near zero, and tubes are not the future of the JRPG.

The FF team needs to send some spies over to Atlus and do exactly what they do with some FF flair, then maybe they'll regain your place as the respected king of the genre instead of the fat, bloated, impotent, ruler they are, holding the crown only because of fanatical devotion rather than praiseworthy action.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Waaghpowa said:
Yet they're going to do an HD FF10. It's obvious that they're not going to remake FF7 because of the money and time required to update it. It's the reason why there are so many HD collections from the last gen, all they do is widen the aspect ratio and resell it, which is significantly less work and money than updating a PS1 game. It all reeks of laziness and greed.

What's silly is I think that a FF7 remake would make a lot of money, but they wont do it because of the risks. I would have bought it, FF7 was literally the only FF game I could finish aside from Tactics.
One thing I think you, and many ignorant gamers, fail to realize is that while yes it might make a shit ton of money in sales, but if the project also costs a shit ton of money to produce then the amount of money that Square-Enix would actually see out of it would actually be quite small, if any. And if Square-Enix doesn't think there'd be a significant enough return on their investment, they're not going to green light a project. You can call them greedy and lazy if you want to, but they need to make money if they're going to continue to make games for you to consume and enjoy.

As for me, I wish people would STFU about FFVII. Hoenstly I don't see why it deserves such legendary status. Not that it was a bad game by any means; hell it's one of the few Final Fantasy games I've ever finished and it was the first I ever played. However, it isn't the best Final Fantasy game I've played and it certainly hasn't aged well.
Man you must work at Square if you have such in-depth knowledge about the development costs of the game. I mean, we all know most AAA games these days are super duper cheap and these huge corporations don't have any any money to spare, so you have to be absolutely right, being as well informed as you clearly are, that Square couldn't possibly see a profit from this venture.
 

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Goddammit guys.

One of the biggest names in the stagnating Japanese gaming industry wants to actually try new things and we all hate them for it.
 

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SmarterThanYou said:
Scars Unseen said:
Honestly, I think they should make an open world (single player) ARPG title. ].
They did, it was called Final Fantasy XII.
Eh... I would say that FFXII(which is my favorite FF in the past several years) was open-ish at best. Certainly better than FFX or FFXII in that regard, but then a noose would be less restrictive than either of those games. Also? Not an ARPG.

The thing that does it for me with Dark Souls and (hopefully) Dragon's Dogma is that it is nice to see a Japanese take on what was traditionally a western style of game. With Capcom you get a high action game(at least that's what I got from the demo) which makes sense because that is what they've historically done best. From obviously is channeling King's Field with their Souls games. It would be kind of cool to see what Squeenix's take would be since they have so many franchises to take inspiration from.

Of course, that could validate your post completely if you wanted to interpret FFXII as Squeenix taking the open world concept and making it less open. That would kind of keep the above theme going, though not in a completely positive way.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Waaghpowa said:
Yet they're going to do an HD FF10. It's obvious that they're not going to remake FF7 because of the money and time required to update it. It's the reason why there are so many HD collections from the last gen, all they do is widen the aspect ratio and resell it, which is significantly less work and money than updating a PS1 game. It all reeks of laziness and greed.

What's silly is I think that a FF7 remake would make a lot of money, but they wont do it because of the risks. I would have bought it, FF7 was literally the only FF game I could finish aside from Tactics.
One thing I think you, and many ignorant gamers, fail to realize is that while yes it might make a shit ton of money in sales, but if the project also costs a shit ton of money to produce then the amount of money that Square-Enix would actually see out of it would actually be quite small, if any. And if Square-Enix doesn't think there'd be a significant enough return on their investment, they're not going to green light a project. You can call them greedy and lazy if you want to, but they need to make money if they're going to continue to make games for you to consume and enjoy.

As for me, I wish people would STFU about FFVII. Hoenstly I don't see why it deserves such legendary status. Not that it was a bad game by any means; hell it's one of the few Final Fantasy games I've ever finished and it was the first I ever played. However, it isn't the best Final Fantasy game I've played and it certainly hasn't aged well.
You know that's what I was saying right? They don't think there would be a significant return on the game. Which is precisely why they're not doing FF7 and why they're all ok with doing HD versions of all the games from last gen. It's cheap and easy and guaranteed to get a decent return. I would say it's both lazy and greedy to capitalize on peoples own ignorance for purchasing the same game from last gen that required little work to produce, since the game was already made.
 

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I'm getting super annoyed by this. Why is it that at every press conference Square Enix has, two of the questions are always.

1. How much like Final Fantasy VII is it?
2. When are you remaking FFVII?

As good as it was, it's not as good as you remember.
 

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This is always such a weird case for me (and lemme say I am speaking as someone who is completely neutral to FF7. I played it, I thought it was okay. I don't love it or hate it. I'm just in the middle)

On one hand I have to applaud SquareEnix for sticking to their guns on this and not going back on their word. If they don't wanna waste their time and energy on a remake and would rather focus on new stuff instead, I can respect that. (For the sake of argument, I'm going to ignore all the ports and remakes they've made over the past five years...)

But on the other hand, I think it's pretty clear that this is what their fanbase is REALLY wanting, and refusing to even consider the option seems a bit cold on their part. Square isn't exactly beloved by its fanbase right now, this is something that could potentially bring a lot of people back to them.

Like look at Atlus, a few years back (I think sometime in 09, maybe 10) they said that they had no plans at all to make any enhanced version of P4 BUT said they would consider it if it seemed like enough people were interested. Well guess what...enough people were interested, and now we have Persona 4: Golden hitting the Vita.

So I dunno...

It's a weird situation.
 

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That doesn't bother me much.

...what DOES bother me is that fact that you tossers haven't released that Kingdom Hearts Leon outfit DLC for Dissidia 012 out to buy yet! Or the KH Cloud DLC! Or any of the pre-order DLC for Dissidia 012!
 

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I don't know why people want remakes so much. The game's still available to play and according to a quick wiki it's available for purchase on the PSN. What's stopping you from enjoying some 15 year old retro goodness? Graphics don't make the game guys!
Yeah, I own it on PSN. I don't really need a remake.
 

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It's just as well. Modern Square would ruin FFVII, anyway. They'd fill it with awful voice acting and probably ditch the superb battle system for something closer to XII or XIII's awful "modern" systems.

Let the classics remain classics, I say. Nothing would hurt more than FFVII getting remade in XIII's image.
 

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Just wait, they know that they have this ace in the hole for when they need something made fast and dirty that will definitely save their company from Bankruptcy when the bottom falls out of the market for Japanese Games in the West.
 

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People keep saying it would cost too much to remake Final Fantasy VII. I call BS on that. In Final Fantasy VII they already have a designed game, story and dialogue. Isn't that like a year of planning (and salaries) right there?

They need to improve the graphics, hire some voice actors and clean up the confusing dialogue.

If they can afford to make new games then they can afford to remake FF7. The difference between a new game and FF7 is that people actually want FF7. SE's reputation isn't so great right now so a new game may be a harder sell.
 

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Space Spoons said:
It's just as well. Modern Square would ruin FFVII, anyway. They'd fill it with awful voice acting and probably ditch the superb battle system for something closer to XII or XIII's awful "modern" systems.

Let the classics remain classics, I say. Nothing would hurt more than FFVII getting remade in XIII's image.
They wouldn't replace the battle system with the one in XIII. They have done a few remakes on the DS and PSP and they haven't done that. Their voice acting is mostly good, there are examples like Tidus and Vanille but those are exceptions.
 

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This is because Square-Enix hates money. It's not even that much, come on guys, remake it. It's not like it needs a full suite of game developers and designers. I don't even like it that much, but if it hit XBOX too I'd probably get it. I really want a remake of 8, but I also like running from angry mobs.

Good cardio.
 

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I love all the comments about how its a guaranteed money maker.

No it isn't. You simply couldn't make a game of that size that could still compete in todays market, without spending so much money you could never make it back. Yes I would love to see it happen, but it never will.