Square Enix Sued Over Kane and Lynch 2
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translated by the scholars over at Sankaku Complex oh god op you won an internet today...I haven't laughed so hard in so long.
On subject square didn't make the game wasn't developed by square enix just published. How can they be held responsible for game made by IO Interactive and Nixxes Software??
On subject square didn't make the game wasn't developed by square enix just published. How can they be held responsible for game made by IO Interactive and Nixxes Software??
I think I should sue Activision for MW2 portrayal of Russians. It's also full of misinformation and insulting stuff and actually way more offensive then Kane and Lynch 2 towards Chinese.
Heh, regardless this isn't the scale... $1600? $16000000 would make a difference, not $1600.
Heh, regardless this isn't the scale... $1600? $16000000 would make a difference, not $1600.
There is lots of bad blood between Japan and China. Though many would complain about the U.S. use of nuculear weapons against large civilian populations (though they thought the emperor to be a God)... what the U.S. did was nothing compared to what Japan did in Manchuria. It is kind of hard for China to play up the victim card these days, considering Japan is has been essentially a free market liberal representative republic since MacArthur, and China kind of went downhill from the 50's onward... there have been tepid inprovements since Nixon went to China, but...
Yeah. If Square did not buy Edios, I am sure this lawsuit would have never come up.
Yeah. If Square did not buy Edios, I am sure this lawsuit would have never come up.
Well, we've seen this building. Nations like Russia have been getting upset over being presented as the bad guys in foreign media for a while, they made a big stink over say "Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull" given that there were Russian bad guys. Then there was the leadership of Venezuala getting all uppity over "Mercenaries 2: World In Flames". We also say "Resident Evil 5" spawning complaints which were taken seriously over the portrayal of african tribals as african tribals.Brad Shepard said:
All of these things, combined with American liberals taking them seriously, have lead up to this moment as we've definatly established the precedent for this kind of stupidity. The industry and court systems being unwilling to stand up, is one of the reasons why we're seeing so much overuse of non-entities like zombies as video game and movie villains.
I mention the court system, because in general when someone makes a complaint about something being racist, bigoted, etc... when it portrays a group of people negatively, there is a tendency (even if it's not universal) to step on it, to the cheers of the left wing and groups like the ACLU. Accuracy and situational truth not being especially relevent.
China has proven itself to be a cultural sinkhole, the corruption during the Olympics (how it treated it's people setting them up for example) just being the tip of the iceberg. Not to mention their "Death Vans", business practices, and other issues. Of course in a country where it's borderline illegal to say anything bad about any group of people, none of that matters when it goes to court.
One also has to understand everything I'm saying in terms of context as well, understand "Kane and Lynch" is a game about criminals, with protaganists who are not good guys. The theme of a game can in many cases justify it's content through context.
If they are talking about the treatment of the goverment/police... well... let's just say that portraying China negatively is an understatement, we actually tend to not be critical enough.
Here is some bits on those oh-so wonderful Chinese law enforcers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1165416/Chinas-hi-tech-death-van-criminals-executed-organs-sold-black-market.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrRyeqIjsX0
That's just the tip of the iceberg, but 4 links is enough. Daily Mail isn't usually one of my go-to sources but it summarizes a lot of the problems in this case, and if you do some digging finding their sources isn't difficult here.
In short, China has built mobile execution chambers. Their claim was that these vans were designed to drive up to prisons, where the prisoners would be brought outside to the van and killed... which makes no sense either from a security or efficiency standpoint.
In reality what China has started doing is using these vans to arrest people, where they are strapped in and given a "fair trial" through video conferance. At which point they are murdered in a fashion that allows for the organs to be extracted for later sale. The Daily Mail exagerrates the situation a bit by saying that the organs go to the US, most of them (according to articles I've read) are used domestically, though some do apparently wind up on the international market. A lot of the information about this came about apparently from tracking the origin of organs back to their source, rather than by infiltrating the police or following the vans around. According to one article I read (which I couldn't find) there have been cases of closure from such investigations. One guy in the US (admittedly) wanted to thank the guy who donated a Kidney from China, in tracking the path back he hit a lot of barriers but then found out that the guy was missing and the parents didn't even know he was executed even if the police had records... in short they pretty much snatched (presumably tried), and murdered/harvested him.
It's one of those cases where truth is stranger than fiction, and honestly, with all the garbage China is up to, how does it get off screaming about defamation of national character?
Such are my thoughts.
Awww... how dissapointing... I though they were suing Squeenix for making such an awful game and not because it "damages" China's image. It's not like Mexico's suing Call of Juarez: The Cartel for "damaging" Mexico's image, although that game should be sued for being shitty too.
By Jingo, something about this smells. Oh, wait. My mistake, all of it smells. China being upset over how China is viewed by the rest of the world is not new. This has been going on for decades, really. Maybe centuries. It's the equivalent of Russians caring more about their country than which particular group is leading it, or France and Germany both thinking how much nicer the Alsace Lorraine would look if the other party wasn't tracking mud all over it, or Americans politely ignoring the bulldozed remains of the natives that make up the ground beneath our parking lots. Why argue with tradition, right?
WORT! WORT! WORT!
HONK BLARGH BLARGH HONK HONK HONK!
You cannot argue with that, I hereby pronounce Bungie guilty of misrepresenting the Sangheili race in Halo and order them to compensate the entire population with a sum ammount of 20,000,000,000,000 credits payed in full up front.
Post Sangheili interview: We are pleased with the courts decision and plan to use this presedent to combat further afronts to our culture, starting with rule 34!
HONK BLARGH BLARGH HONK HONK HONK!
You cannot argue with that, I hereby pronounce Bungie guilty of misrepresenting the Sangheili race in Halo and order them to compensate the entire population with a sum ammount of 20,000,000,000,000 credits payed in full up front.
Post Sangheili interview: We are pleased with the courts decision and plan to use this presedent to combat further afronts to our culture, starting with rule 34!
The idea isn't about the actual case. It's about 'can a legal precedent be set for a successful lawsuit where China can use its power to intimidate others into doing what they want'.
This lawyer is supported by the Chinese government, or he wouldn't be allowed to be this high-profile.
A) Lawyer starts frivolous lawsuit based on contrived 'anti-national' item.
B) They wait to see if it works, and see if people are scared off by the nation it's coming from.
C) Profit.
If it works, they've managed to dictate to the world how and when their nation can be portrayed in worldwide media. If it doesn't, it's just some random lawyer. Win/Win.
This lawyer is supported by the Chinese government, or he wouldn't be allowed to be this high-profile.
A) Lawyer starts frivolous lawsuit based on contrived 'anti-national' item.
B) They wait to see if it works, and see if people are scared off by the nation it's coming from.
C) Profit.
If it works, they've managed to dictate to the world how and when their nation can be portrayed in worldwide media. If it doesn't, it's just some random lawyer. Win/Win.
Yep, it's a Chinese Onion, when you add this to the ridiculously low amount of compensation and the length of time taken to sue.Grey Carter said:
If not... !?!??!?!?!!!?!??!?!???!!!?!!?!?!?!?!!!???!?!??!!?!!!?!??!??!?!?!?!?