Stalker 2 has... Draconian DRM.

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Jandau said:
They're idiots.

You know which game tried this? Assassin's Creed 2. You know what happened? Pirates simply played the game, got all the server-based content and then put out a crack that contained all that content and simulated a server connection (all of it offline, naturally). The game could be played normally with no internet access required. I used the crack myself on my copy of AC2 since I was in no mood to endure Ubisoft's retarded DRM schemes.

This is an extra stupid idea for Stalker's developers. They aren't a big studio. They rely on the good will of their fans. And they just kicked their own fans in the nuts. Stalker 2 will likely suffer, but not because of piracy, but because the devs got stupid...
This. Wholeheartedly this. The Stalker franchise isn't sufficiently mainstream to either justify or get away with this.

Attention games publishers: DRM that inconveniences your paying customers more than the pirates is bad.
 

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all round I think its a terrible idea but will it actually backfire on them in anyway? those of us that know about this (and care) are in a pretty small minority, most people just buy a game and play it without ever wondering or worrying about what liberties are being taken by the publisher... at least until something goes wrong with the DRM that prevents them from playing the game.

Still, I'd love to see some actual proof that DRM stops piracy in a significant enough way to justify putting your paying customers though crap like this.
 

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I love STALKER, but I am not supporting this move. This is one case for which an honest boycott could truly help. Why? They're a relatively small, independent studio. Hell, it's main source of income is the STALKER series. So if we the consumers can work together and vote against this with our wallets, they'll have no other choice but to turn this decision around.

We might not be able to put a dent in giants like EA, but we can sure as hell fight against small fry like GSC Game World.
 

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no this shit again,didn't see that after 3 days AC 2 was cracked and emulated to offline servers?other than piss off customers DRM donsen't help at all.

I don't have a problem with this but alot of other people do.
 

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There may be hope: the twitter feed guy says it's been the first time he heard about this, so cross fingers that it may have been a false rumor.

If not, may the Zone take whoever was the dummy who thought that was a good idea.
 

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Woodsey said:
veloper said:
Having Valve and Activision doing always online DRM is bad enough, but atleast those companies can be expected to be with us for a long time to come.
Valve doesn't have always-on DRM.
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Oh dear, yet another company tries to save their game from pirating. HOW DARE THEY WANT TO EARN MONEY?
you DO know that you need a internet connection THE ENTIRE TIME YOU ARE PLAYING IT right?
FUCK YOU EA! also this is the first time it,s LITERARY un-pirateble.
good job EA! for raising DRM douchebagness to a new level!
EA have nothing to do with Stalker 2.

Clive Howlitzer said:
It must really suck to be that 1% of people who live in east bumfuck and don't have internet. I'd be wicked pissed if I were them.
Because of course, your ISP will never perform maintenance, nothing will ever go wrong with your connection, and the game's servers will never, ever go down. No sir, none of that will ever fucking happen or affect anyone with a decent connection.
I was actually being sincere, you know. I know it sounds insane that someone made a comment on here that wasn't sarcasm. I think its BS, I have friends with crappy internet and it sucks for them.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
I'm a big fan of STALKER. That being said, they can go fuck themselves. I'm not buying this. When I buy a game, I want to be able to play it on my own terms. Constant internet connection opposes that freedom. When you want to take that freedom away from me, you should no longer consider me your customer. It's that simple. There are other games I can play. Also, part of the content will be stored on their servers? Screw that! When I buy games I expect them to have all the content that I payed for. These guys are crossing the line even further than Ubisoft. As an honest customer all I can say is that I won't allow them to treat me like a criminal.
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HAWX 2 would like a word with you, it was one of the few games which to this day is not successfully cracked for the PC.
That's because no one cared enough to crack it.
Still a sign of effectiveness, there are many ways to deal with piracy and this is one of them. The goal is to take out as many pirates as possible. Either directly or indirectly (as one of my friend learned when he pirated a DLC only to get an OS destroying virus.)
 

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Ok, you know what? Why don't we all just buy the game and obtain the crack? We still pay for it and DRM is no longer an issue.
 

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Let's wait for some hackers manage to get around this so the DRM only hurts people who payed money for the game!

*Facepalm*
 

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I run on a wireless connection out here, I get mostly cut from the internet every time it rains.
I don't buy Single Player games to play them while I'm connected to the internet, I get them to play when I can't be on Dragon Saga, TF2, LoL, Minecraft servers, Kongregate, etc...

*sigh*

This is pretty much why most pirates end up being pirates, they start doing it because of dumb DRM policies on a game they want, then a lot of those people end up going "Well... that was easy, free, and I have a better game now... I might do this more often!"
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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gyrobot said:
Still a sign of effectiveness, there are many ways to deal with piracy and this is one of them. The goal is to take out as many pirates as possible. Either directly or indirectly (as one of my friend learned when he pirated a DLC only to get an OS destroying virus.)
So you're saying that creating a game that no one want's to even bother pirating is a sign of effectiveness? Well why don't you mail that to developers. All these years they tried to make games that people like, and in return they have to deal with piracy. And the solution was always in front of them - make a lousy game.
 

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i have never had any issues with drm or antipiracy stuff. when i hear you guys complain you sound like little babies. complaining that you have to log in or have the internet on.

who doesnt have the internet connected all time now?
 

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Whelp, that's it for me then. I bought all three STALKER games, loved them (especially with the Complete mods) and would almost certainly have bought the next one, too. But this I'm not willing to do. The only hope they have for me and people thinking like me buying their game is that they change their mind until release or at least later release a patch/data package that makes this ridiculous measure redundant, removes it. If they go through with it, I can only hope that their sales are so much worse that they actually make less money than they would've with their standard copy protections etc. and they realize that staving off some pirates for a while[footnote]You don't honestly think they won't break through this protection, too, at some point, do you?[/footnote] is not worth forcing their proper customers through such hoops.
 

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Update:

May have been a false alarm, their DRM policy isn't decided yet:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/09/gsc-respond-on-stalker-2-drm-issue/

Lets hope the community reaction thus far will duly influence their decisions.
 

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Merkavar said:
i have never had any issues with drm or antipiracy stuff. when i hear you guys complain you sound like little babies. complaining that you have to log in or have the internet on.

who doesnt have the internet connected all time now?
I think its more a problem with internet speeds and the like, if it has to download as you play, Also some people (Re:ME) have bandwidth caps.
 

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imnotparanoid said:
Merkavar said:
i have never had any issues with drm or antipiracy stuff. when i hear you guys complain you sound like little babies. complaining that you have to log in or have the internet on.

who doesnt have the internet connected all time now?
I think its more a problem with internet speeds and the like, if it has to download as you play, Also some people (Re:ME) have bandwidth caps.
Yep, I have a cap and there is very little I can do about it as i'm a lodger so the broadband is my landlords.

Its bad enough having a cap as I can only download 1 game a month (from steam), but sometimes the cap gets exceeded and then I need to tighten my belt on the data... having a game downloading content whilst I play could cost me money!
 

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Continuity said:
imnotparanoid said:
Merkavar said:
i have never had any issues with drm or antipiracy stuff. when i hear you guys complain you sound like little babies. complaining that you have to log in or have the internet on.

who doesnt have the internet connected all time now?
I think its more a problem with internet speeds and the like, if it has to download as you play, Also some people (Re:ME) have bandwidth caps.
Yep, I have a cap and there is very little I can do about it as i'm a lodger so the broadband is my landlords.

Its bad enough having a cap as I can only download 1 game a month (from steam), but sometimes the cap gets exceeded and then I need to tighten my belt on the data... having a game downloading content whilst I play could cost me money!
Out of intrest whats yours?
Mines 20gb, which is only mostly shit on the shitometer.