Stalker 2 has... Draconian DRM.
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Pretty much this. This is ridiculous beyond words, to be honest. I really wish the industry would find some other way to fight piracy. I dunno, maybe by lowering the price of games a bit or actually putting out content we'll be willing to pay for, instead of an upteenth shit sequel.yayforgiveaway said:
I know I'm floundering here, I'm sure someone else can remind me of the several tastier alternatives to DRM.
Oh lovely. I'm willing to bet they have NO IDEA how much long term damage they did to themselves just now. This will damage them FAR more than piracy. The thing about piracy is that the large majority of people who do pirate, wouldn't buy the game at all if it weren't for the option to pirate. Basically all the majority of pirates are doing is giving free publicity to the games they pirated.
HAWX 2 would like a word with you, it was one of the few games which to this day is not successfully cracked for the PC.
Before that, Porn Games managed to defend itself against pirates (at least over here).
Before that, Porn Games managed to defend itself against pirates (at least over here).
I've purchased every STALKER game physical retail from the beginning on Day 1(even after they forgot to supply Canadian retailers with CoP and I had to order it from the US), with this new version I'm going to wait and see.
I may buy this but it'll be well after it's been released and dumped in the bargain bin. This'll mean that GSC will only get $0.10 profit instead of the $10 (or whatever it is) for a day 1 sale. Hopefully by then it'll have been fixed (since it's the mods that do that not the official patches) as well as the DRM bull shit as well.
And for the record, I have yet to complete vanilla Clear Sky since it's always crashed at some point and corrupted 1/2 the game for me. I bought it even though I knew it was dumped out the door half baked and without any decent QA testing
I may buy this but it'll be well after it's been released and dumped in the bargain bin. This'll mean that GSC will only get $0.10 profit instead of the $10 (or whatever it is) for a day 1 sale. Hopefully by then it'll have been fixed (since it's the mods that do that not the official patches) as well as the DRM bull shit as well.
And for the record, I have yet to complete vanilla Clear Sky since it's always crashed at some point and corrupted 1/2 the game for me. I bought it even though I knew it was dumped out the door half baked and without any decent QA testing
I'm a big fan of STALKER. That being said, they can go fuck themselves. I'm not buying this. When I buy a game, I want to be able to play it on my own terms. Constant internet connection opposes that freedom. When you want to take that freedom away from me, you should no longer consider me your customer. It's that simple. There are other games I can play. Also, part of the content will be stored on their servers? Screw that! When I buy games I expect them to have all the content that I payed for. These guys are crossing the line even further than Ubisoft. As an honest customer all I can say is that I won't allow them to treat me like a criminal.
That's because no one cared enough to crack it.gyrobot said:
all round I think its a terrible idea but will it actually backfire on them in anyway? those of us that know about this (and care) are in a pretty small minority, most people just buy a game and play it without ever wondering or worrying about what liberties are being taken by the publisher... at least until something goes wrong with the DRM that prevents them from playing the game.
Still, I'd love to see some actual proof that DRM stops piracy in a significant enough way to justify putting your paying customers though crap like this.
Still, I'd love to see some actual proof that DRM stops piracy in a significant enough way to justify putting your paying customers though crap like this.
I love STALKER, but I am not supporting this move. This is one case for which an honest boycott could truly help. Why? They're a relatively small, independent studio. Hell, it's main source of income is the STALKER series. So if we the consumers can work together and vote against this with our wallets, they'll have no other choice but to turn this decision around.
We might not be able to put a dent in giants like EA, but we can sure as hell fight against small fry like GSC Game World.
We might not be able to put a dent in giants like EA, but we can sure as hell fight against small fry like GSC Game World.
I was actually being sincere, you know. I know it sounds insane that someone made a comment on here that wasn't sarcasm. I think its BS, I have friends with crappy internet and it sucks for them.Woodsey said:
Still a sign of effectiveness, there are many ways to deal with piracy and this is one of them. The goal is to take out as many pirates as possible. Either directly or indirectly (as one of my friend learned when he pirated a DLC only to get an OS destroying virus.)Adam Jensen said:
Let's wait for some hackers manage to get around this so the DRM only hurts people who payed money for the game!
*Facepalm*
*Facepalm*
I run on a wireless connection out here, I get mostly cut from the internet every time it rains.
I don't buy Single Player games to play them while I'm connected to the internet, I get them to play when I can't be on Dragon Saga, TF2, LoL, Minecraft servers, Kongregate, etc...
*sigh*
This is pretty much why most pirates end up being pirates, they start doing it because of dumb DRM policies on a game they want, then a lot of those people end up going "Well... that was easy, free, and I have a better game now... I might do this more often!"
I don't buy Single Player games to play them while I'm connected to the internet, I get them to play when I can't be on Dragon Saga, TF2, LoL, Minecraft servers, Kongregate, etc...
*sigh*
This is pretty much why most pirates end up being pirates, they start doing it because of dumb DRM policies on a game they want, then a lot of those people end up going "Well... that was easy, free, and I have a better game now... I might do this more often!"
So you're saying that creating a game that no one want's to even bother pirating is a sign of effectiveness? Well why don't you mail that to developers. All these years they tried to make games that people like, and in return they have to deal with piracy. And the solution was always in front of them - make a lousy game.gyrobot said:
Whelp, that's it for me then. I bought all three STALKER games, loved them (especially with the Complete mods) and would almost certainly have bought the next one, too. But this I'm not willing to do. The only hope they have for me and people thinking like me buying their game is that they change their mind until release or at least later release a patch/data package that makes this ridiculous measure redundant, removes it. If they go through with it, I can only hope that their sales are so much worse that they actually make less money than they would've with their standard copy protections etc. and they realize that staving off some pirates for a while[footnote]You don't honestly think they won't break through this protection, too, at some point, do you?[/footnote] is not worth forcing their proper customers through such hoops.