Stan Lee on "Black Spider-Man"

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I said it before, I'll say it again, I want a white guy playing Shaft and I expect everyone to be happy about it!
 

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F-I-D-O said:
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(I'm really hoping a Luke Cage movie gets made)
I remember hearing one was being made. I think it was going to be an Iron Fist, Luke Cage, then Heroes for Hire was what they were planning. Those may be started after Avengers or maybe same year (I doubt that, Marvel wouldn't want to have Avengers shadowing the other films).
It was confirmed, though very little of it from what I read (Iron Fist would be an awesome addition), but from what I can tell is that it'll be a low budget film. Marvel has the resources to release a movie every year at this point, that seems to be what they're doing (with the exception of 2012, which will be amazing before the end with Cap and the Avengers), so I can see Luke Cage getting released in a year on his own. And hopefully it'll bring attention to the lesser-known super hero and open the flood gates for other characters like him.

I heard Runaways is getting a movie or TV show too, so I'm very optimistic about the possibilities.
Who's up for a Cable movie? C'mon, he's awesome, and you know it! Plus, an Apocalypse fight that destroys one of the Marvel fights would be epic on the big screen. IF you don't know who he is, I pity you.
He is punching a werewolf. 'Nuff said.
Who's up for a Deadpool movie? Fourth-wall breaking humor, protagonist who is more insane than the baddies, and intestine art fun!
He's the yellow bubble
Ah hell, just do a Cable/Deadpool movie. Best. Crossover. Ever. Ok, maybe that's exaggeration, but it's the most fun. Plus, just about everyone shows up to try and beat Cable, including the silver surfer. And cable wins.
Three year plan. PLEASE MARVEL, DO IT!
*Sigh* Fox still has the rights to Deadpool... They seem to be doing a good job so far, Ryan Reynolds is a huge fan and keeping it all under control and they brought the writers from Zombieland to write it.

I hope nobody does a Cable movie until Marvel gets the rights, to be perfectly honest. He's such an amazing character and he'd be hard to bring into the universe (his story is... complex, at best), but it'd be cool to see him on the big screen.
 

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My only complaint with this is, if a new Spawn movie came out and Al Simmons was played by a white guy "Oh racist. Took a black character and put a white guy in the role." Whereas this way around its "oh it's not really fair to say it has to be a white guy to play Spider-Man"
Similar to wot I think, too.

There are super heroes of all races, creeds, ages, genders, et al--why change a 60-year-old, established character just for the sake of doing it?

What's next? Is Magneto going to be Inuit in the next X-Men flick?
OOH! OOOH! Superman as a Na'vi! BRILLIANT!
 

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badass snip
Never seen Zombieland. But at least they're taking the Deadpool from the first part of the Orgins movie. And with the actor being a fan, it can't be to bad. I want the fourth wall to fall down. I really do.
Cable is awesome. His story would probably take at least two, maybe three movies to properly convey. I just can't stop thinking of the image from the Marvel encyclopedia, where you have Deadpool (missing half his head) running holding Cable (as a baby) with bullets flying everywhere and Apocalypse yelling to capture the mercenary. Pure epic.
Yeah, the whole Cyclops and Jean baby might be hard to bring forward, and then you ahve different worlds/futures/characters, if it was done right it would be good. But a few mistakes and it would be a catastrophe. It would also be a challenge as they'd have to dumb it down for the movies (I'm not insulting theatergoers, just so it would flow easier). As long as Cable can still break the Silver Surfer's Board, I'd be happy (Cable and Deadpool Vol 2-the burnt offering. Read it. Epic battles galore.)
I didn't know anyone had the rights to a Cable movie, he is such an unknown character TBH.
 

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Never seen Zombieland. But at least they're taking the Deadpool from the first part of the Orgins movie. And with the actor being a fan, it can't be to bad. I want the fourth wall to fall down. I really do.
Cable is awesome. His story would probably take at least two, maybe three movies to properly convey. I just can't stop thinking of the image from the Marvel encyclopedia, where you have Deadpool (missing half his head) running holding Cable (as a baby) with bullets flying everywhere and Apocalypse yelling to capture the mercenary. Pure epic.
Yeah, the whole Cyclops and Jean baby might be hard to bring forward, and then you ahve different worlds/futures/characters, if it was done right it would be good. But a few mistakes and it would be a catastrophe. It would also be a challenge as they'd have to dumb it down for the movies (I'm not insulting theatergoers, just so it would flow easier). As long as Cable can still break the Silver Surfer's Board, I'd be happy (Cable and Deadpool Vol 2-the burnt offering. Read it. Epic battles galore.)
I didn't know anyone had the rights to a Cable movie, he is such an unknown character TBH.
Fourth wall decimation has been confirmed, along with costume and other shenanigans.

And Cable is part of the X-men Universe, I believe Fox got him with the rest of mutant kind. Which is kind of sad because Wanda and Pietro wont get a chance to be Avengers...
 

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Blueruler182 said:
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Blueruler182 said:
badass snip
Never seen Zombieland. But at least they're taking the Deadpool from the first part of the Orgins movie. And with the actor being a fan, it can't be to bad. I want the fourth wall to fall down. I really do.
Cable is awesome. His story would probably take at least two, maybe three movies to properly convey. I just can't stop thinking of the image from the Marvel encyclopedia, where you have Deadpool (missing half his head) running holding Cable (as a baby) with bullets flying everywhere and Apocalypse yelling to capture the mercenary. Pure epic.
Yeah, the whole Cyclops and Jean baby might be hard to bring forward, and then you ahve different worlds/futures/characters, if it was done right it would be good. But a few mistakes and it would be a catastrophe. It would also be a challenge as they'd have to dumb it down for the movies (I'm not insulting theatergoers, just so it would flow easier). As long as Cable can still break the Silver Surfer's Board, I'd be happy (Cable and Deadpool Vol 2-the burnt offering. Read it. Epic battles galore.)
I didn't know anyone had the rights to a Cable movie, he is such an unknown character TBH.
Fourth wall decimation has been confirmed, along with costume and other shenanigans.

And Cable is part of the X-men Universe, I believe Fox got him with the rest of mutant kind. Which is kind of sad because Wanda and Pietro wont get a chance to be Avengers...
Well, they weren't original avengers, so I'm fine if they were left out. If Wanda was added, then Vision would come. Then Ultron would be the logical villain. Then Black Panther because he is another avenger. Soon the entire Marvel Universe would be in! Which wouldn't be all bad...just insanely expensive.
 

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Nick Fury being portrayed by Samuel was okay because it was Samuel.

Please, keep Spider Man white. Its like making a black Luke Skywalker
 

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Best snipped conversation ever.
I'd actually like to see Vision. They could lead that into a Young Avengers book. And there's a pool of thought that the Black Panther and Namor are going to get their own movies because some lifeless god at IGN noticed that, in Iron Man 2, at the end when Tony's talking to Fury, that Wakanda and Atlantis are shown on a pair of maps.

And I honestly think Ultron should be the villain for Iron Man 3. Introduce Hank and Janet Pym, not as super heroes yet, just respected peers, and have them work on a project looking at Tony's AI Jarvis, or something along those lines. Anywho, it'd be a terminator vs Iron Man scenario, an emotionless automaton vs Iron Man, it'd make for an interesting story what with the past two being a bitter son and a corporate traitor. If Ultron came in, he has this nice habit of hacking into computer systems, so Tony could make Extremis to fight him. Not to mention introducing Hank and Janet Pym so when (because there will be) an Avengers sequel comes out, they'll be able to be brought in, and Ultron could come back bigger and badder than ever.

Or they could bring in Kang the Conqueror in, and when they get the X-men franchise back they would already have explored time travel enough that they could bring Nathan from one of Kang's alternate futures.

But, back to the Avengers thing. Characters who are amazing in their own right but not particularly popular are likely to get the Luke Cage treatment, a small budget film to bring the character out of his corner. Dr. Strange is likely to get the same treatment, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. I mean, Marvel just started doing these movies a few years ago and they're already such a big deal. I can't wait until they get the X-men franchise because that means Wolverine and Wolverine can link into X23 easily enough. At least, I want them to bring X23 in before Fox ruins it...

I have a lot of theories and a lot of ways to tie these things together, I'm very excited about the geek future.
 

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I remember in Tim Burton's Batman Harvey Dent was portrayed by a black guy. The first thought I had was "Wait a minute.... when did Dent turn black?"
 

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That would be stupid, not just because he's black but that actor kinda sucks. Now, I'm not racist like I would think it's stupid for a white guy to play Superfly.
 

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Nouw said:
Nick Fury being portrayed by Samuel was okay because it was Samuel.

Please, keep Spider Man white. Its like making a black Luke Skywalker
Lol, if you think about it, that name really is kinda pimp though.

I side with the white Spidey camp. I don't think it's impossible, or unreasonable at all, I just know Peter Parker to be a white college nerd.

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I just think Hollywood would handle the idea of a black Spider-Man horribly. He'd either end up a stereotype, or he'd end up absolutely no different than original flavor Spider-Man, and both are damn wrong in their own way.
Hit the nail on the head. Hollywood does not have a firm grip on realities behind cultural issues. Even their "deep" works on race and culture end up laughably shallow (see "Crash"). In the right hands, this idea would be awesome, in the wrong hands...it makes me shudder to think about it.
Very eloquently put, especially the Crash example. I went into that expecting a hell of a lot more than I took away from it.
 

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It's not an issue of race, more of consistency. Like he said, people know Spiderman as a white character, and just for the sake of homage to the comics, I personally think it should stay that way.
 

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White people need heroes too.
List of white super heroes:

Wonder Woman, Donna Troy, Cassanda Sandmark, Sara Pezzini, The three Flashes, A few green Lanterns, Batman and all of his side-kicks, Pretty much all of the x-men save for like three that I can think of (there's probably more), Jackie Estacado, Danielle Baptiste, Fray... and a whole lot more.

White people have a lot of super heroes, and a lot of flagship/mascot heroes. The argument that white people need heroes as well is totally invalid since most of the heroes out there are white. I have yet to see a flagship/mascot character for any comic company be anything but white. Yes I know storm is a very popular X-men, but she's still not a mascot for Marvel, if anything it would be Spiderman/Scott Summers/Capt America.

If you really want to argue wether or not Peter should be black, use arguments that include his background rather then white people need heroes as well.
 
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Can we not leave characters they race they are in the comics. I am sick of people not choosing people that don't suit the role they are in. Also for anyone who thinks it is because he is going to be black I would be just as pissed if it was any other race or if a black super hero was being portrayed as another race eg Spiderman=White, Nick Fury=White, Green Lantern=Black, Storm=Black, Wolverine=White. Just stick with the bloody race they are supposed to be. I mean for fuck sake in some cases it changes the entire story of characters on that point why can't movies be true to comics like in Spiderman 3 they should of
shot Venom symbiote off into space instead of making it go boom(if I remember movie right).

Also while I am on this the casting of Venom in Spiderman 3 was very, very, very poor. I do like the actor but he could of put on some muscle dammit!!!
Green lantern is white. Always has been.

Plus, he's DC
[sub]that costume though, that is just wrong[/sub]
Ok I forgot Green Lanturn has changed person so that was a bad example but there has been atleast 1 black Green Lanturn which if they made a movie of I thought they might go with but it could be any of them really.
I'm a big fan of Green Lantern, and the one you just showed was Alan Scott, who is actually the Sentinel as his powers come from a different source. There was a black Green Lantern, his name was John Stewart. Because of that, I'd have no problem if they made a movie with him in it as Green Lantern. However, I'd PREFER they go with one of the originals first if they're going to be making a movie about it (which they are) as in Hal Jordan or Alan Scott.

Shows like the Justice League can get away with it rather easy because the storyline is already established and we're not starting at "the beginning" of any of those characters, so it's fine to have it take place where any of the GL's can fit in. That being said, I've never been a big fan of John Stewart. He seems to have tons of willpower (and is apparently the best flier) but he doesn't seem to have as much in the way of imagination as either Hal or Kyle. Then again, my favorite was Kyle and he was an artist, so maybe I'm just being biased, lol.
Ah no your entitled to your opinion of which is favourite Green Lantern mine is a bit skewed because I loved the Justice League so much. So when I think of Green Lantern I think of him first and I forget that the Green Lantern isn't a static character in the way maybe Superman would be. I just wish they would be keep them as the race they are suppsoed to be though as it can change their whole backstory.
 

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Okey, here is the deal:

Spiderman has ALWAYS been Peter Parker, no one else, and Peter Parker has always been white. Thats just facts.
As a big Marvel fan I must say I am totally AGAINST changing the race of Peter Parker, just because some actor wants to play him.

Nick Fusy is only White in the standard MArvel universe, in the Ultimate Universe he is black. In fackt he was modelled after SLJ and even points out his recemblance in the comics (So he was a given Choice)

As for the King Pin, well Dear Devel wasnt really a good movie, but he worked out.
 

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Unless he somehow nails the part harder than any part has ever been nailed before, I don't want to see Peter Parker as anyone but a white nerdy teen.
 

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Peter Parker is a skinny little white nerd boy....who becomes a buffish little white boy with super powers. He is a nerd hero. So unless we can make Black Panther and Luke Cage white....
Would he be White Panther then? It would sort of lose the whole "Black Panthers Stand Tall and Fight the Crazy Crackas" message wouldn't it?
Thats my point. Changing people's races just because kinda messes it all up, doesn't it?
 

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Green lantern is white. Always has been.

Plus, he's DC
[sub]that costume though, that is just wrong[/sub]
Not always...Course this was in the Justice League show, but I liked the black Green Lantern. :)