Stardock CEO Boycotts UPS Over Fox News

[theSovietConnection]

Of course I've always wondered and theorized what would happen if you boycotted Shroedinger's Cat. I guess you would be both boycotting and NOT boycotting at the same time.

*twitch*

On topic, this is a little sad, and the tiniest bit petty. Oh well, what can you do?

 

[scotth266]

Wait, bringing up the issue of racism when a black man is arrested in his own home for trespassing is provoking racial hatred?

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The question is *why* is someone provoking racial hatred. In the case of the networks, it's because racism is still a problem in our society, and the only way to talk about it is to do things that will spark racial hatred just like talking about any problem is going to rub old wounds.

And the officers reported that he accosted them verbally. What actually happened there is not the issue: how the media presented it is. The news networks slanted things to make it look like a case of racism in order to attract views. Sure, it MAY have been racist, but there was a even chance that it was not racist... but you didn't see anyone saying that at 6:30. No, it was all about how the police were being bullies to a black man. Was that the case? It doesn't matter, not in this argument.

While racism is still a relevant issue in America, and it DOES need to be tackled at some point, the way that the media jumped on what could have been a Red Riding Hood incident and slanted it to appear that the only possible outcome was that the cops were members of the KKK does nothing to help racial tensions: it only makes black people think "We're being oppressed!" and the non-racist whites think "Great, now the black people will think we're all like that." The racists, in the meantime, use these media circuses to galvanize the fearful and intolerant into joining their ranks. Nobody wins except the racists.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't report on racism. I'm saying rather that if you DO report on racism, you shouldn't make it out to be like this is happening right outside your window: this happened in location X, and unless you live in location X, it's entirely possible that your police aren't racist assholes.

and that's not even considering some of the stuff I recall them airing that Al Sharpton and some other guy (I think it was the professor's lawyer) were saying.

Right--and which network does Al Sharpton have a show on? This is the problem with Conservatives: they look at people on the far left and say "see--there are radicals on both sides." Sure--difference is, the radicals on the left are marginalized; on the right, they are the leading voices. The Republicans ran Sarah Palin for VP--the equivalent is the Democrats running, like, Janeane Garofalo.

I'm not making a connection to political views here: in fact, I never said anything about the political sides of Sharpton or the other news networks. I was drawing a connection to media sensationalism and how they used those clips as a extra round of ammunition. One clip was just a black guy talking about how he didn't trust the police at all, and about "Driving while black." This had nothing to do with the cops in particular that arrested that professor, why they arrested him, or anything to do with that incident: it was just fear-mongering. Was the cause of the fear-mongering legitimate? Were the officers in the area racist? Maybe. But this man wasn't just saying it was the cops in his area: his answers made it sound like he was talking about ALL cops... that's the issue I draw with the news networks. They make it seem like this sort of thing is happening everywhere, right now, as a common occurrence no matter where you live.

No, it's sparking controversy for an unsound reason.

You're right: I was looking for a better word when I posted that, but I'm rather tired today.

 

[CymTyr]

Fear-mongering is present among conservatives and liberals, it's not just one side doing it. They control you through fear, or haven't you figured that out by now?

Regardless, I'm not sure what to make of the original post. Kind of befuddled.

 

[scotth266]

Snip.

He was arrested for disorderly conduct. One of the violations of disorderly conduct is "makes unreasonable noise and continues to do so after being asked to stop."

So yeah, the cops can arrest you for that. It might not be racism.

If the cops receive a report of a break-in by a black man into a house, and they arrive on the premise to find a black man there, odds are it's in their procedures to question the person present.

I also find it somewhat insulting that you've implied that I'm a racist, considering that I'm friends with several black people. It might just be that you and I think differently, and that everyone who disagrees with your view isn't racist but rather seeing a different picture.

 

[Typecast]

I'm really not sure how a CEO get's to a position like that only to fumble the ball so badly, not to mention the nepotism of altering the way the company he represents does business based on his own personal(and a little muddled from the sound of things) feelings. It's because of people in positions like that, with power like that, making selfish decisions like that, that contributed the global financial crisis significantly.

 

[Motiv_]

-Snip-

Excellent. I call North Carolina.

 

[Knight Templar]

I also find it somewhat insulting that you've implied that I'm a racist, considering that I'm friends with several black people.

That doesn't mean you are not racist.
I'm not saying that you are racist, I am just pointing out how that statement means nothing.

 

[scotth266]

I also find it somewhat insulting that you've implied that I'm a racist, considering that I'm friends with several black people.

That doesn't mean you are not racist.
I'm not saying that you are racist, I am just pointing out how that statement means nothing.

No matter what way you take the definition of racism, I'm not racist.

The worst thing he can say about me is that I think differently than he does because I've had different social experiences than he has. Implying that I'm racist is strawmanning.

 

[lizards]

ive never had 1 person NEVER who supported fox news give a credible arguement over polticial anything and generally how you know they watch it is they start quoteing usally after they are out of foxs bs to shout

I think you would find there are quite a few conservative/libertarian/anarchist here who provide rational opposition, Chronobreak,Simulord(sometimes ) ZZtop89(i think thats who) myself,Darkside 360(a bit fiery though) and IDR the anarchist but he's very rational, Jmegansnow, among others.

Just saying

well you guess may but 99 percent of people who are fox news devotees dont

I'm sure you've done a study and checked with a large sample group in a clinical manner, have you?

nah i just have fox's website to prove it have you ever been there?

i looked and i saw a couple things that made me regret being there as soon as i saw them:
1. people were talking about how great 2012 will be when palin and beck become president and vice
2. according to beck obama is a "racist"
3. they had fair and balanced at the top which whether you agree or disagree is a lie

also you have the great many people who will start saying that he is a "commie and a socialist" so apparently they think hes 2 different things and also they say that hes going to make death squads which if you ever read a book then you know thats bullshit

and the topping on the cake "i dont want a government run healthcare system for anyone" and "they will stop providing for our elders" and to that i always respond "what the fuck do you think medicade and medicare is?"

in short they quote and blindly say what fox news said to say morethan 99 percent of the time but every once in a while you will get an informed educated fox news watcher which is when debates get interesting

and my final statement is: if you want to talk about healthcare great, if you are going to quote from fox news then dont bother because if i wanted to hear that i would just watch the show myself, so educate yourself try and read some things sometime and then maybe you will not blindly follow everything that people tell you to

 

[lizards]

I am a fan of Glenn Beck, al though I don't agree with everything he says, and I could understand if UPS pulled their advertisments from the show, but pulling them from then entire station is just stupid. Granted UPS sucks anyways, but I still think it's an idiotic decision.

your a............fan?.........why the hel.........WHY

seriously the guy is unbalanced as bad as hannity maybe worse ugh

please explain

 

[scotth266]

Man, it's at times like this that I miss Eggo...

It's great to know what you think of someone who got banned. How is that relevant?

Yeah, this is the problem, both here and in other discussions I've had with you: you don't know what you're talking about. I googled that, and you're giving me the Wikipedia definition?

Oh no, I used Wikipedia to grab a general definition of a term. Clearly, this makes everything I say invalid.

I'm quite informed as to how law works, thanks. I also fail to see how "tumultuous behavior" could not be considered as a subset of "making unreasonable noise." It's a very general term.

There was never the implication that violence was involved, therefore (assuming the officer is not a racist) he was arresting him for tumultuous behavior. I find it highly unlikely that a police officer, after being presented the credentials of a college professor, is going to arrest said professor for absolutely no reason whatsoever other than racism, because he would know that doing so would get him canned. Arresting academics tends to draw quite a few eyes.

What does that have to do with anything?

Sorry, that was a tangential. Sort of. I was attempting to say something about how it wasn't racist of them to question him, even after receiving his identification, because it's part of procedures: and that getting loud with them because they're doing their jobs is wrong.

It was irrelevant anyway, feel free to ignore it.

That to me sounds like projecting.

It is projecting, but it has nothing to do with race, and more about how people in different social groups would react to the way the media presented the arrest.

Eliminate race from the equation. Say then that it's just about cops, civilians, and anarchists. Sensationalizing the incident the way the media did before all the evidence was put forward makes the civilians scared of the cops, the cops feel that the civilians all see them as jerks, and the anarchists get some of the more radical, scared civilians to join them.

I'm not viewing this in terms of race: it's just the way that I think people would react to the way the media portrayed the incident.

I am not expecting the news to be politically correct: we would have missed out on a lot of important stories that way. I'm asking them rather to not slant reporting in order to gain views via sensationalism: and I'm talking about all news networks. I want news that's just that: news, maybe with some bias, but at the very least not attempting to dress up things in order to gain views.

You also seem to be fixated on the idea that I'm unwilling to tackle such issues as racism because I'm afraid of offending people, and that somehow I am racist. I don't see how viewing the situation from a different perspective than yours is racist, and I'm apparently not above offending people, because you have quite clearly taken offense at what I've said: or at least that's how you seem to me.

EDIT: Oh wow. You called me a troll, and are now ignoring me.

That has got to be the most hilarious thing I've seen this month. I take the time to respond to you, attempting to explain why I think the way I do, and you ignore me.

I've been civil this whole conversation. I apologize if that's not the way I seem when I type: inflection is hard to communicate through text, but all I've been attempting to do is explain my reasoning, while I get called a racist multiple times for my efforts.