Stardock CEO Boycotts UPS Over Fox News

[lizards]

Yeah I just lost a massive amount of respect for Stardock. I have friends with what would be considered conservative points of views in the US and respect them but what Fox news spouts is pure and utter BS and they should be slapped down already for having the tenacity to use the words 'fair' and 'balanced' on their website and news.

Besides, I'd say allowing someone to act as Glen Beck does is a good enough reason to boycott the entirety of Fox.

youve never watched hannity then have you?

im supporting ups all the way now fox is biased shit theres a reason that no one the watchs CNN or ABC or whatever else you watch goes around saying "BUSH IS A COMMIE" maybe the others are biased but they sure as hell arent nearly as bad as fox news

ive never had 1 person NEVER who supported fox news give a credible arguement over polticial anything and generally how you know they watch it is they start quoteing usally after they are out of foxs bs to shout

 

[lizards]

Looks like it's time to boycott Stardock.

Nice. With luck, such a boycott of a boycott of a boycott will snowball into a cascade of boycotts that will end up forcing people to live in tiny adobe huts and living off gardens and barrels of rainwater as everybody refuses to buy or sell anything from anyone else because they all hate each others guts.

Ahh yes. Your, of course, speaking of "Hawking's Theory of Repeating Boycott in Suspended Anti-gravitational States". Of course I've always wondered and theorized what would happen if you boycotted Shroedinger's Cat. I guess you would be both boycotting and NOT boycotting at the same time.

Don't even get me started on boycotting alternate universes.

i can beat all your boycotts

IM GOING TO BOYCOTT GRAVITY BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

take that

 

[Low Key]

I can already feel the hatred spewing from posts and I haven't read a single one.

People, get over it. If you don't like Fox News, don't watch it. The democrats have the majority in the white house, senate, and house of representatives. Obviously Fox isn't making THAT much of an impact.

 

[sneakypenguin]

ive never had 1 person NEVER who supported fox news give a credible arguement over polticial anything and generally how you know they watch it is they start quoteing usally after they are out of foxs bs to shout

I think you would find there are quite a few conservative/libertarian/anarchist here who provide rational opposition, Chronobreak,Simulord(sometimes ) ZZtop89(i think thats who) myself,Darkside 360(a bit fiery though) and IDR the anarchist but he's very rational, Jmegansnow, among others.

Just saying

 

[Just Joe]

I never really got the expression "I could care less". Shouldn't it be "I couldn't care less"? Because the way he's saying it, it implies that he DOES care, if just a little.

 

[heyheysg]

You guys do realise there isn't anything such as Raw News right?

Stuff happens, cats climb up trees, fires get started and put out, natural disasters, war, famine all exist daily. Black people commit crimes, White people commit crimes, Brown people commit crimes.

The ones who decide what is 'News' vs what is 'Real Life' are the networks.

You pay them or at least support advertisers who buy up ad time to support what they are doing.

Either you find a news source you like and stick to it or stay out of commercial news all together.

The reason everybody hates everybody elses news network is not because they lie or they spin the truth, it's because there are people in the world who don't agree with you or your groups point of view.

Sit on a mountaintop somewhere and play videogames, there's nothing remotely close to something you can do to change the world unless you intend to do it. In which case, you wouldn't be here.

And I boycott boycotts.

 

[Crash486]

I'm with UPS on this one. Stardock just made a big mistake.

Not really, in a way Stardock boycotting UPS for boycotting fox news can be taken as an act of impartiality. If they for instance continued to support UPS knowing that UPS was publicly boycotting fox, it would appear as if stardock was in favor of the fox news boycott.

Personally I'm with stardock, I'm not a fan of fox news myself, but I'm even less a fan of UPS. Those incompetent monkeys lose my packages all the time, not to mention their delivery estimates just plane suck. Overnight delivery? More like, "sometime next week delivery if you're lucky."

Also, the freedom of speech thing. Though that argument can get a bit contradictory since the act of the boycott on the boycott is in itself a violation of freedom of speech.

 

[cobra_ky]

"Frankly, I wouldn't have cared if UPS had pulled their ads from Fox if they had done so quietly. But they didn't. They had to 'take a stance'," he explained further on his personal blog at JoeUser.com [http://frogboy.joeuser.com/article/365378/Facebook_Boycotts_and_Politics].

"My Facebook comment was taken considerably out of context. I could care less about Glenn Beck or whether someone advertises on their show or not," he said. "But UPS is boycotting the entire channel which annoyed me enough to ask my publishing director to look into whether it was true (it was) and have them look into Fed Ex which provided competitive pricing and make use of them for our uses."

he's complaining they didn't do it quietly enough, when he had to ask his publishing director to find out if it was even true?

 

[WhiteTiger225]

Looks like it's time to boycott Stardock.

Seconded.

 

[WhiteTiger225]

"Frankly, I wouldn't have cared if UPS had pulled their ads from Fox if they had done so quietly. But they didn't. They had to 'take a stance'," he explained further on his personal blog at JoeUser.com [http://frogboy.joeuser.com/article/365378/Facebook_Boycotts_and_Politics].

"My Facebook comment was taken considerably out of context. I could care less about Glenn Beck or whether someone advertises on their show or not," he said. "But UPS is boycotting the entire channel which annoyed me enough to ask my publishing director to look into whether it was true (it was) and have them look into Fed Ex which provided competitive pricing and make use of them for our uses."

he's complaining they didn't do it quietly enough, when he had to ask his publishing director to find out if it was even true?

Not to mention is sounds like he's sucking off Fed Ex for some money for advertising them rather then having a legitimate reason for hating on UPS (BTW, go UPS! One more step closer to fox news dying off and then after that, world peace will be possible (Honestly.. I am kidding about the world peace.. yet I wonder a lot...))

 

[GonzoGamer]

Looks like it's time to boycott Stardock.

I think I already have a good start on that; as unintentional as it is.

I like the line: "I'm not a huge fan of FOX. But as a conservative, it is nice that there's one station where my values aren't ridiculed."
It's Fox News that make conservative values a target of ridicule. Guys like Beck and Oreilly make conservatives look like raving lunatics.

I actually like some of the conservative values (small government, conservation of resources, and fiscal conservatism), it's just too bad vocal conservatives have dumped them all for selective religious morals, racism, and class warfare.

Totally this, I WAS conservative before Fox news. I now contend myself as fiercly but sensibly liberal.

I can understand Stardock's point here, but they themselves 'made a stand' by making a stand over UPS making a stand. Never mix politics with business. For all you know, UPS withdrew from Fox because Fox was hurting it's business by association.

I think you may be right: UPS probably had some big clients (bigger than Stardock at least) that weren't happy with the sponsorship and threatened to go elsewhere.

Not that you can really call FoxNews "news" but I have a problem with news channels/shows relying on sponsors to begin with. It does taint the coverage: they've known for years (by they I mean those who performed independent studies; as opposed to those studies that were sponsored by the mobile companies themselves) that cell phones cause cancer and only recently a few news sources have covered it and I imagine that's because most news outlets have one or two mobile device/service sponsors.

I watch the news on PBS because their sponsors are the American people. Also, Jim Lehrer's cool and composed; you don't get that on the news anymore, especially not on Fox.

 

[GonzoGamer]

"Frankly, I wouldn't have cared if UPS had pulled their ads from Fox if they had done so quietly. But they didn't. They had to 'take a stance'," he explained further on his personal blog at JoeUser.com [http://frogboy.joeuser.com/article/365378/Facebook_Boycotts_and_Politics].

"My Facebook comment was taken considerably out of context. I could care less about Glenn Beck or whether someone advertises on their show or not," he said. "But UPS is boycotting the entire channel which annoyed me enough to ask my publishing director to look into whether it was true (it was) and have them look into Fed Ex which provided competitive pricing and make use of them for our uses."

he's complaining they didn't do it quietly enough, when he had to ask his publishing director to find out if it was even true?

Not to mention is sounds like he's sucking off Fed Ex for some money for advertising them rather then having a legitimate reason for hating on UPS (BTW, go UPS! One more step closer to fox news dying off and then after that, world peace will be possible (Honestly.. I am kidding about the world peace.. yet I wonder a lot...))

After Fox news is dead and gone we'll have more than world peace: we'll also get a cure for cancer, free clean energy, an end to the slave trade, global warming, nuclear proliferation, & terrorist recruitment, they'll pass legalization of prostitution & marijuana, the economy will correct itself, everyone will have food & health care, Simon & Garfunkle will reunite, and Yahtzee will finally make his Saints Row 2 like game.

Damn Fox news is really holding us back huh?

 

[L3D]

I think I'll start boycotting Stardock too.
Shame, Sins of Solar Empire looked like a nice game.

 

[MR T3D]

All I took from this is that Stardock supports racism. Even if I wasn't supposed to.

right? this seems stupid on their part, to boycott a company that boycotts a company to make a point against racism is pretty dumb.
like, respect from stardock just lost 12 points.

 

[lizards]

ive never had 1 person NEVER who supported fox news give a credible arguement over polticial anything and generally how you know they watch it is they start quoteing usally after they are out of foxs bs to shout

I think you would find there are quite a few conservative/libertarian/anarchist here who provide rational opposition, Chronobreak,Simulord(sometimes ) ZZtop89(i think thats who) myself,Darkside 360(a bit fiery though) and IDR the anarchist but he's very rational, Jmegansnow, among others.

Just saying

well you guess may but 99 percent of people who are fox news devotees dont

 

[steveo_justice]

Hooray! Nerds whinking they're all smart and shit and trying to suppress each other's freedom of speech! Wooo!

 

[steveo_justice]

ive never had 1 person NEVER who supported fox news give a credible arguement over polticial anything and generally how you know they watch it is they start quoteing usally after they are out of foxs bs to shout

I think you would find there are quite a few conservative/libertarian/anarchist here who provide rational opposition, Chronobreak,Simulord(sometimes ) ZZtop89(i think thats who) myself,Darkside 360(a bit fiery though) and IDR the anarchist but he's very rational, Jmegansnow, among others.

Just saying

well you guess may but 99 percent of people who are fox news devotees dont

I'm sure you've done a study and checked with a large sample group in a clinical manner, have you?

 

[scotth266]

Arguing over which cable news station supports/doesn't support whatever political view is in question is a losing prospect for all involved. All cable news stations are self-classified as entertainment first; they have no obligation to be factual, and they have upheld this in court. It's better for them to generate controversy where none exists in order to drive ratings.

True, but other news stations don't generate that controversy by doing things that provoke racial hatred.

Er... what about that whole thing with Cambridge? All the networks cried racism before the results of the internal investigation even came out. Regardless of whether or not the officers in question WERE racist, that's provoking racial hatred: and that's not even considering some of the stuff I recall them airing that Al Sharpton and some other guy (I think it was the professor's lawyer) were saying.

I've seen a few people call hypocrisy on Stardock's CEO for boycotting UPS, but to be honest, it's not. Nobody associates ads and networks these days: people consider the content of the channel that you're watching, and the billboard that pops up every once in a while to be two separate things. The individuals who would stop buying goods advertised on a channel they don't like aren't going to be watching that channel in the first place anyway, so the move by UPS is in the end just sparking controversy for no reason.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

Well... the only reason people like Glen Beck is because he says controversial things on national TV, I don't think anyone should take him that seriously. Boycotting anyone because of him is a bit much.