I'm waiting for the first "Dragon age 2 blah, blah, blah, blah, too many gays with there homo-cooties" post.Zhukov said:
Stolen Pixels #257: The Electronic Artists
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I hope the claim to be deepening the game is true and the rest is just marketing crap, after all almost everything the EA execs and marketing types said about the first dragon age was pretty much misleading shite. Nice comic mind.
also I have to ask (not like anyone will answer) how much does EA interfere with Biowares work? They were already working on mass effect when EA bought them out and that was kind of like jade empire in space, very much an RPG.
Then they had to streamline the RPG elements and the combat for the sequel for some reason. okay the combat was a little clunky but why remove RPG bits? It ended up like a lightweight deus ex style game.
Now the claims for the third game is that the RPG elements are being almost entirely removed or at the very least more streamlined to suit a new audience.
Was the point of acquiring Bioware to:
a) Bring in a game making talent so strong that it was pretty much propping up a whole a large specialist market; thereby ensuring the lions share of that market and a deserved name for quality gaming.
or
b) To own a brand that is synonymous with quality and wave it around in the hopes of big profit until the brand loses all meaning, then look into acquiring another brand.
If A then surly you want to make sure that the high quality RPG maker keeps making RPGs after all their action games (shattered steel and MDK) were neither technically spectacular nor massive financial successes.
also I have to ask (not like anyone will answer) how much does EA interfere with Biowares work? They were already working on mass effect when EA bought them out and that was kind of like jade empire in space, very much an RPG.
Then they had to streamline the RPG elements and the combat for the sequel for some reason. okay the combat was a little clunky but why remove RPG bits? It ended up like a lightweight deus ex style game.
Now the claims for the third game is that the RPG elements are being almost entirely removed or at the very least more streamlined to suit a new audience.
Was the point of acquiring Bioware to:
a) Bring in a game making talent so strong that it was pretty much propping up a whole a large specialist market; thereby ensuring the lions share of that market and a deserved name for quality gaming.
or
b) To own a brand that is synonymous with quality and wave it around in the hopes of big profit until the brand loses all meaning, then look into acquiring another brand.
If A then surly you want to make sure that the high quality RPG maker keeps making RPGs after all their action games (shattered steel and MDK) were neither technically spectacular nor massive financial successes.
Honestly, the thing that always appealed to me about Mass Effect was Shepard's charisma. I don't even care how the game plays as long as he remains charismatic and the writing is still as on point as it was.
After all, Mass Effect as a series can be described in your first panel, where your choices are yes and yes. The game is extremely linear, and aside from a few small parts, only has one specific path with one specific outcome.
After all, Mass Effect as a series can be described in your first panel, where your choices are yes and yes. The game is extremely linear, and aside from a few small parts, only has one specific path with one specific outcome.
I'm confused as to why people expect Bioware to just keep making the same type of game (action RPG) over and over. Shouldn't we encourage a developer to try different styles of play? I was under the impression that stagnation was a bad thing...
Also, Mass Effect is far better as a shooter with dialog option and moral choices than as an RPG with simplistic shooter-based gameplay.
Also, Mass Effect is far better as a shooter with dialog option and moral choices than as an RPG with simplistic shooter-based gameplay.
I get it's a comic, but this is the umpteenth time Shamus has come up with questionably-accurate quotes. You attributed a quote said by Bioware (the "we're putting more RPG elements in ME3" bit) to EA, which just ain't right, bro! Also, according to the Escapist, John Rickytickytavvy said: "EA was a huge believer in the IP, and wanted as many people to play Mass Effect 3 as possible."
I'm not sure who is correct, but I'm going with the Escapist. That there quote is pure evil, dawg. How daaaaare they say they want as many people to play the game as possible?
For the love of Miranda's booty, PLEASE, can we at least wait until the footage CONFIRMS that the game is a dumbed down Call of Duty in Space clone before proclaiming it such and having the hissy fits with this insane game of telephone gone awry? Is a little bit of open mindedness too much to ask?
Extrapolating vague quotes and morphing them into what we want them to be is a stupid game. Granted, Bioware & EA should know better than to throw vague quotes out there, but this tea leaf reading is getting ridiculous.
Go back to whining about DA2 being a rush job, people. At least that complaint is valid and factually supported.
If this blind hatred continues, I AM QUITTING THE INTERNET. I will totally quit you, interwebz. Don't think I won't. This isn't like Brokeback Mountain. If forced between my faith in Bioware and your prejudgmental ways, I choose Biowarechu.
... unless ME3 really does become Call of Duty in space, and your blind prejudices somehow come true. Then I'll just cry a lot. But at least I'll be able to say I made that decision based on FACTS, dammit!
I'm not sure who is correct, but I'm going with the Escapist. That there quote is pure evil, dawg. How daaaaare they say they want as many people to play the game as possible?
For the love of Miranda's booty, PLEASE, can we at least wait until the footage CONFIRMS that the game is a dumbed down Call of Duty in Space clone before proclaiming it such and having the hissy fits with this insane game of telephone gone awry? Is a little bit of open mindedness too much to ask?
Extrapolating vague quotes and morphing them into what we want them to be is a stupid game. Granted, Bioware & EA should know better than to throw vague quotes out there, but this tea leaf reading is getting ridiculous.
Go back to whining about DA2 being a rush job, people. At least that complaint is valid and factually supported.
If this blind hatred continues, I AM QUITTING THE INTERNET. I will totally quit you, interwebz. Don't think I won't. This isn't like Brokeback Mountain. If forced between my faith in Bioware and your prejudgmental ways, I choose Biowarechu.
... unless ME3 really does become Call of Duty in space, and your blind prejudices somehow come true. Then I'll just cry a lot. But at least I'll be able to say I made that decision based on FACTS, dammit!
Never played 1 but the combat in mass effect 2 SUCKED. The dialog system was great so I stuck around for that but I had no desire to replay. It was like a generic big budget movie. Pretty to look at, a fun experience, but ultimately unoriginal fluff. ME2 was probably the fire bioware game I didn't immediately want to reply. As opposed to Kotor where I finished an evil game and immediately started a good game. Or baldurs gate where I played though about 4 times in a row.
Very funny comic, and is a great way of showing that EA has been contradicting themselves lately as to what Mass Effect 3 will be like. Maybe Bioware will find some magical sweet spot that goes along with everything that EA has been saying.... but I doubt it. That said, I am still gonna buy and play the shit out of it when it comes out. I love shooters, I love RPGs, but more importantly I love the Mass Effect universe so I might as well buy it to see this trilogy off.
fanboy complainer is a fanboy complainer.
i have faith in BioWare.
Always.
the only thing that could make Mass Effect 3 suck is if it was a disc with just an endless loop of the "nyan" cat with shepherd's face photoshopped onto the cat
i have faith in BioWare.
Always.
the only thing that could make Mass Effect 3 suck is if it was a disc with just an endless loop of the "nyan" cat with shepherd's face photoshopped onto the cat
what if it was an endless loop of "Baby" by justin bieber mixed with Lady Gaga's "poker face"SirBryghtside said:
Man, that would be like the awesomest awesome thing in the history of awesomeAzaraxzealot said:
/sarcasm
I still think it's a bit too early to think that a few vague statements that are in marketing speak are enough to say they ruined the game.
Yep. If they said they were doing that for sure, then the game would suck and be ruined. Nyan cat needs to go die in a fire.Azaraxzealot said:
Oh good god, remove that from your comment before someone thinks that is a good idea.Azaraxzealot said:
I'm sending over a squad to have your brain scrubbed anyway, a mind that thought that up is clearly deviant and needs to be purged.
On topic now. Eh, even if they remove more RPG elements that alone won't ruin the game for me. Mass Effect was never much of an RPG to begin with. In my opinion from day one it has been an action/shooter with great characters and writing.
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