Stop all the COD Hate

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Jegsimmons

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how about NO?

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I'll stop hating once it stops sucking, or once it starts getting sales numbers that don't make the whole industry go "well how can we be more like that mediocre hunk of shit so people will buy our game by the trillions?"

To be more articulate: I KNOW for a FACT that the sales numbers on this game will make other game publishers look for more games like this, Hence why ever major publisher is mostly only pushing out FPS games, or why they're tweaking existing genres to be more FPS-like (anyone else miss top-down role-playing games?), and I fear eventually maybe they'll link the sales to the bland, explosion heavy plot, and then they'll only want to publish games with bland explosive heavy plots. Not acceptable.

Also, the series doesn't even hold a candle to Battlefield 2 let alone Battlefield 3. It's like someone believing in scientology, I just can't let it go unquestioned.
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I hate COD because it's sh*t, not because I'm a hardcore gamer (I'm actually not). And you know what, I'm sick of being told to shut up about it. I'm more warranted in my criticisms of the game than you are in your blind praise (which is undoubtedly the product of contrary-ism).

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Imper1um said:
Look, thread #94789575 of this same topic appears!

Its not that they aren't aimed towards a specific crowd, its that they are aimed at making the smallest improvements (look, five new guns!) and selling them for the most price. I wish more people understood that Call of Duty is ruining the market, because they are spending very little in the percentage of money they are returning. Its almost criminal.
I've seen this argument a lot, and so I counter with the following: Mario, Sonic, Dynasty Warriors, every racing game, every FPS that has a major series. See, I understand your opinion and respect it, but you can't say that only CoD "ruins" the market as every successful franchise is doing the exact same. The only criminal thing here is people claiming that the evil CoD corporation is ruining everything by following the example of every other franchise. Ever. If something isn't broke, don't fix it.
First off, because everyone does it, it doesn't make it acceptable. Secondly, COD can be considered more guilty than those other franchises because it's such a cultural phenomena. MW3's the most financially successful entertainment product ever, and it's the laziest sequel I've seen since... well, COD3. Think of the message this will send out; you can just throw a few new gimmicks into your sequel and make sh*t-loads so long as you're previous title was financially acceptable. It's unacceptable and inexcusable, no matter who does it.
 

Bacontastic

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I don't hate COD, its like candy. Good in short burst for some instant gratification for most people. What I hate is what its doing to the Industry.
 

KB Rocker

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the only call of duty game I actually liked was cod 4 Because of the improvements and how much different it was then the rest. Though unfortunately every cod game after that was just another cod 4 all over again. The call of duty series is not bad at all it just to much the same( I know there are other flaws but this is the main one that upsets me) So in short the COD hate will stop when the game actually decides to change up a bit. Not the graphics or the weapons I mean the actual gameplay. Once you can't just pick up the new call of duty and play it like the last one. Once this happens I'm sure most of the cod hate will stop or at least it will come from a different perspective.
 

Xanadu84

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I'm a hardcore gamer, as far as that label applies. I talk about games that should influence the industry, and Ill start pulling out stuff like The Path, Passage, The Marriage and other stuff that is about as far away from mainstream as you can get. Call of Duty is a damn fine game. It is polished to perfection and a lot of fun if you are either casual or open minded enough to appreciate a game whose mechanics diverge from the traditional high health, health kits, wacky weapons formula. Call of Duty may have too large an impact on the industry, but that is the fault of the copycats. Call Of Duty itself deserves almost all of it's high praise. The fact of the matter is that you can hate playing something, and still acknowledge that it is a well designed game.
 

SextusMaximus

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I dislike CoD, it stopped being fun when number 6 appeared. That's my opinion, an overdone thread isn't going to change that; sorry.
 

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Timberwolf0924 said:
COD games are so popular because they are not aimed for a hardcore audience.
... Yeeeaaaah, wahtever you say, buddy. Not hardcore in the slightest. No. One of the most competetive online scenes in the business, totally not hardcore or exclusive at all.

"Oh, I am too a hardcore gamer, I play also Skyrim, and Viva Pinata, and Mass Effect, and all those other games that hardcore gamers play"

Well good for you, thats great, but you know you else plays COD games, that guy who only has an XBOX or PS3 for the damn COD series.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say, or what any of those games have to do with Call of Duty. I came here to talk about Call of Duty, not Skyrim or Viva Pinata. Are you trying to imply that those gamers are somehow lesser than the ones who play Viva Pinata? ...

[img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/34/Viva_pinyata.jpg/250px-Viva_pinyata.jpg" /]

How did this even become part of the discussion, anyway?
 

Woodsey

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Nope, I think I'll continue disliking it, and saying so when people ask. And sometimes - *gasp* - saying it because I want too. COMPLETELY OF MY OWN VOLITION.

Truly, I am madness incarnate. You may call me Greg.
 

Assassin Xaero

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Timberwolf0924 said:
Listen, we understand, you're a hardcore gamer. COD games are so popular because they are not aimed for a hardcore audience.

"Oh, I am too a hardcore gamer, I play also Skyrim, and Viva Pinata, and Mass Effect, and all those other games that hardcore gamers play"

Well good for you, thats great, but you know you else plays COD games, that guy who only has an XBOX or PS3 for the damn COD series.

In short, don't take the COD series, seriously, they are what they are to sell, and make money. If the color blue sells 10x more than the color green, wouldn't you sell more blue than green?
I will stop the COD hate if you and all the other people on this site stop with the ponies.
 

CarlMin

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Stop commenting on all the Cod Hate threads and they will disappear pretty soon, I promise.
 

EternalFacepalm

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Timberwolf0924 said:
Look at the Madden series, the Gran Turismo series, Grand Theft Auto has gotten worse actually.. all of those series make bank, go hate those.

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Selectively reading, are we?
The hate isn't because they're making money, it's because they're making money for recreating the same game over and over again, but with new maps and like five new guns.
Honestly, I don't even hate CoD for that anymore, now I just wish the community would stop raving over it and getting pissed whenever someone isn't.
 

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Talshere said:
....stay true to the series, but still be unique...


For PC, the MW franchise took a giant leap backwards with the miltiplayer in MW2. It still isnt back to CoD4 standard in MW3 and it is a step backward if we include Black Op in this too. MW hasnt really had a story to speak since the first one of so tell me, if a game is still behind it 2 time predecessor, how is it true to the series and unique in any way that could be considered good?

Just to point out . . . in the hardcore PC gaming community, the amount of actual work that's gone into the most recent titles qualifies more as a "mod" more-so than a new installment.

I mean, hell - you'd swear they've got script kiddies designing the games at this point. I'd bet damn good money that if IW or Treyarch would cough up decent enough tools, the PC modding communities could create something that far outshines what they've been releasing the last few years, in the same amount (or less) time it takes them to cough up another installment to the series.

Waitaminute . . . now I see why they don't want to release any decent tools to the community! The mods would outshine the retail products!
 

ollieoz17

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I don't hate the games for what they are, or for who plays them. I dislike them personally as they are not to my taste, sure, but I "hate" what they do to the video game industry. I hold them to be no different than any other stagnant, repetitive, low-value, committee-designed game-a-years; they're just more so, as the most popular iteration of the pattern.

I'm hardly the only one on this thread who thinks this way, so I'll just endorse the reasons you can find above my post as to why this is a bad pattern. If you find the games fun, don't let me stop you, but I worry about what messages we're sending to publishers and developers when we show that we're willing to buy umpteen-zillion copies of the same shallow-but-pretty game, only different every year.
 

Dark Prophet

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Stop with the bloody CoD threads, it's those very threads that generate the most hate. It's like Cod...Skyrim...CoD...CoD...Skyrim...CoD...Skyrim...Skyrim...CoD...CoD...stop it.
 

Tommeh Brownleh

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Oh for Christ's sake. I love the COD games as much as any other guy, but honestly it's just not worth taking that seriously. It's just a GAME! Some people prefer Skyrim or Minecraft or Halo or what have you. I personally like pretty much any game (with some exceptions) that isn't an RTS or intened for six year old and under girls. It's a matter of personal taste. Me? I'm fine with paying sixty dollars every 14-15 months for a game with some things added to the multiplayer formula. Others? Not so much.
 

Dorian6

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I think this is the problem with people today. Someone has a different opinion than you and you feel personally offended instead of focusing on the larger issue, "why do you like to play shitty games?"
 

Jdb

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I have good news - this review puts to rest the arguments about the game's quality.


At fist I thought Modern Warfare is the most boring shooter ever because it's Unreal Tournament without awesome dodging, hardcore weapons, cool levels, and everything, but this review made my mind do a 360! Modern Warfare 3 is awesome. People don't like it because it's the 'in' thing to do.