Superman Quits America, Fox News Readers Take the News Badly

Hulk Snake

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He still believes in the good within people.

Where does it say he DENOUNCED America and all it stands for?

I can't believe this made 8 pages.

The Kents reluctantly let Clark goes to the big city. It's time for Americans to let Superman loose in the big wide world.
 

Regiment

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If Captain America moved to Canada, maybe they'd have a case.

You know, technically Superman is an illegal alien. Does Clark Kent pay taxes?

Somewhat unrelated: The captcha is yourecra Eos, which, when written sideways, looks kind of like "you're crap Fox". Reaching? Maybe.
 

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there's two ways to look at this:
1. if there was no "message" behind it, then yeah, it makes sense. Superman can't do what he wants without the US Government trying to tell him what to do. Superman then renounces his US citizenship so he can do his thing without political BS getting in the way. Nothing un-American here.

2. if there WAS a message behind it (and there probably was), it was just to get across how political BS and paper-pushing can contradict our goals as a nation. as in, "we'll help group of people X in location Y, right after we discuss the ETHICS of it and file the appropriate forms. if everything works out, we should send aid in around 2-3 weeks." This message doesn't badmouth America or it's ideals, it badmouths the political side of things. we can never just retaliate to an attack or send help to someone in need, we have to clog up the system by starting arguments. this isn't offensive because it's TRUE. our political system IS clogged up with red tape and idiots. ironically, the plot could be summed up basically as "Superman disagrees with the US Government, decides to GET OUT". why Fox is pissed about this, I dunno, but hey it's Fox News, why start making sense now, amirite?
 

jshap243

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Hey, he's already the most cheap, "can-do-anything-your-superhero-can-do-and-more" hero, all they needed was to give him the freedom to go anywhere and do anything without guilt. And bam, there it is.
 

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Do some conservatives have to cry and blubber about every single little thing? There is more important things to worry about.
 

RJ Dalton

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Personally, I've always hated Superman anyway, so whatever goes on in his comic continuum means fuck-all to me.

But I can see something in this. Consider his point, "I'm tired of having my actions construed as instruments of American policy." Superman can't act on what's right without endangering America because everybody thinks he's an American agent, thus tying him to the bullshit politics going on in the international realm. Declaring himself independent of America could be the only way to make sure he can do his job without being a danger to his own country.
I have no idea if that's how the story plays it off, so that could all be unrelated, but I'm just saying I can see reasons for it.
 

ShenCS

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'Course if Superman was saying "**** non-Americans!" those sects would be going on about freedom of speech. You guys are minorities now for a reason!
Also, for people saying that it's a comic and "not political", you're actually wrong in this case. Superman is an icon for children - him advocating strong political views like this could be considered attempted indoctrination. They have every right to get upset about it. Likewise, the other side have every right to trollface them while flipping them off.
 

Risingblade

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Wait Superman was an American Citizen? Did they actually give him a Social Security Number? Does he have a birth certificate to back this up? If not then he's not giving anything up. Why the hell would the goverment make him a citizen in the first place?
 

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Gorfias said:
"Why is it stripping Superman of his American-hood so stupid? Because without it, he?s Doctor Manhattan... And in the end, the only truly interesting aspect of Superman?s character is his complete devotion to America. Because it?s this devotion?of which his citizenship is the anchor?that establishes all of his moral limits. Why does this demi-god not rule the earth according to his own will? The only satisfying answer is that he declines to do so because he believes in America and has chosen to be an American citizen first and a super man second....All of these stories work because Superman believes in, and is part of, America. Once he?s a ?citizen of the universe? what, exactly, will he believe in? Heck, what does ?citizen of the Universe? even mean? Will Superman now adhere to the Tamaran code of honor? Will he follow the Atlantean system of monarchy? Does he believe in liberté, égalité, fraternité, or sharia? Does he believe in British interventionism or Swiss neutrality? You see where I?m going with this: If Superman doesn?t believe in America, then he doesn?t believe in anything...And if an invulnerable demigod doesn?t believe in anything, then what he really believes in is himself?his own judgments, foibles, preferences, and partialities. At which point he is drained of every last bit of dramatic interest. He?s Doctor Manhattan and all he can do is exile himself to the moon and let the little people carry on with the hurly-burly of earth."
Bullshit, Superman has human emotions in the sense that he has empathy, dreams, desires and hopes, unlike Dr Manhattan who loses more and more of his humanity every day.

The values Ma and Pa Kent bestowed upon him are not something exclusive of the United States (also, please stop, using America for everything US related, you don't represents Canda, Mexico, Panama and so on, you people aren't America).

It was the values of a simple life and with the simple moral structure of doing what you felt is right and righting wrongs, him leaving the US citizenship does not change that, it only means that he wants to help people anywhere in the world without having to give explanations to anybody, or since the US is in conflict with Irak he automatically can't help civilians in Irak? Hell, it's the same reason the Justice League of America makes no sense, seeing how some of their more powerful the members have no relation whatsoever with the US (one an Amazon, another an alien from Mars), specially when half the time they intervene it's in a global scale.

That they don't limit themselves to US soil or US policy doesn't mean they will turn into the Authority, it is just a testament to their desire to help anybody in the world, no mater nation, race or any other thing, simply because they have the power to help and feel it's their responsibility. As I see it, as long as he doesn't actively intervene in political issues, it is irrelevant, since an innocent should be worth protecting, no matter where he is.
 

thepyrethatburns

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Pretty much this again except with Superman this time.





Perhaps it's because I've kinda dropped into the same camp as Garth Ennis when it comes to superhero comics but this strikes me as another "Look at this. Superman is relevant again." marketing ploy. Given that "Grounded" didn't drive Superman sales through the roof, I suppose DC felt going the other direction might better boost sales.

Still, it could be worse. He could start calling himself Nomad or, God forbid, go back to being Superman Blue (his lightning phase.)
 

DudeistBelieve

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I'm not gonna go all Right Wing, but I will say again, it is rather disheartening for Superman to no longer be an American. Like it or not, it became one of the many symbols of american culture in the 50's. It's like if all of a sudden, Apple Pie makers of America decided they wanted to go for a more global approach with it's marketing.

But it's done for thematic reasons, and it makes sense. It's just a sign of the times we live in.
 

Twilight_guy

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So now he spreads his mission out more globally then just the local problems of America. How is that a bad thing? Don't we have other superheros in the DC universe in America anyways?
 

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Twilight_guy said:
So now he spreads his mission out more globally then just the local problems of America. How is that a bad thing? Don't we have other superheros in the DC universe in America anyways?

Look it's better than Marvel, all the superheroes basically live in Manhattan.

I haven't been keeping up with modern DC in a while, this may be a complete hack-job story arc, but from someone who's decently versed in comics, just peeking in this seems kinda cool.

If you read All-star Superman, you start to see the character for more than just an unstoppable flying brick, and more like a global humanitarian.
He has this stamina and access to all sorts of powers (not just for combat) so he devotes his time to preserving the beauties of Earth and Krypton.(like rebuilding the titanic in his spare time)

The idea of him focusing his attention all around the world (which is totally within his power)
seems like a interesting step for the character.
 

Cid Silverwing

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Lemme get this straight.

There's a Republican flavor of superhero comic readers who are freaking out because Superman is no longer a right-wing in disguise?

I didn't even notice this until now. By rights, Superman should be an international hero indeed.
 

Twilight_guy

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
Twilight_guy said:
So now he spreads his mission out more globally then just the local problems of America. How is that a bad thing? Don't we have other superheros in the DC universe in America anyways?
It isn't necessarily a bad thing that Superman has global interests, he has for some time now.

What people have a problem with is an American icon basically dissing America.

Certainly people can see how some might be insulted, I sure am.
Actually I just had an interesting though. Is superman an American citizen at all? Clark Kent is of course but are there any legal documents tieing Superman to the US? Supposedly nobody knows who he is (hahaha) so he could be some guy from anywhere with any citizenship. Nobody knows if he was born here or if he's a legal resident. I don't think he legally belongs to any country unless he happened to file some paperwork while in costume to make himself official (which seems like a waste of an afternoon).