Superman Quits America, Fox News Readers Take the News Badly
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Well clearly Superman is now implementing his secret Muslim Kryptonian plan to destroy the Earth! SEND ME HIS COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS! MEDICAL INFO! HIS PHONE LOGS! INTERNET ACTIVITY! STOOL SAMPLES!
Don't claim we're all the same, or the cause of your fucking problems. To think that you're from anywhere that hasn't exploited others shows you aren't honest, are a hypocrite, and don't acknowledge basic historical fact.
Americans whining? I'm American. I'm not whining. I like the idea of Superman stomping douchebags worldwide. We already have Captain America, and he is better than Superman.ryo02 said:
Don't claim we're all the same, or the cause of your fucking problems. To think that you're from anywhere that hasn't exploited others shows you aren't honest, are a hypocrite, and don't acknowledge basic historical fact.
Three points:
1. Did Superman ever have American citizenship? He's an illegal alien!
2. "American Way" didn't follow the famous "Truth, justice" line until the aftermath of Pearl Harbor.
3. Joe Shuster, who was one of Superman's co-creators was a born and raised CANADIAN citizen! Eventually he became a naturalized U.S. Citizen, but not until long after.
1. Did Superman ever have American citizenship? He's an illegal alien!
2. "American Way" didn't follow the famous "Truth, justice" line until the aftermath of Pearl Harbor.
3. Joe Shuster, who was one of Superman's co-creators was a born and raised CANADIAN citizen! Eventually he became a naturalized U.S. Citizen, but not until long after.
There's not a lot of difference between being whiny and unnecessarily angry.Enslave_All_Elves said:
Also Superman could totally destroy Captain America in a fight... If either of them were real.
This is so stupid. And by that I mean that the reasons Superman gives for renouncing his American citizenship, as well as the reactions to his renouncing his citizenship are stupid. Apparently, the Man of Steel who was not afraid to wear the love of his adopted homeland on his sleeve during the Cold War, when the stakes were the possibility of total nuclear annihilation, is now so worried that his actions will reflect poorly on the United States and have unforeseen repercussions.
Pardon me, but this just seems to me like the author is trying to drum up sales by drumming up controversy around an iconic comic book character, which Superman hasn't really had since he "died" back in the 90's. What's next? Captain America becomes a disillusioned expatriate and seeks to attain Swiss citizenship?
Pardon me, but this just seems to me like the author is trying to drum up sales by drumming up controversy around an iconic comic book character, which Superman hasn't really had since he "died" back in the 90's. What's next? Captain America becomes a disillusioned expatriate and seeks to attain Swiss citizenship?
He's not an American he doesn't even have a flag on his head!!
-Bandit Keith
Good point Bandit Keith. He wasn't born in our country so he is technically an illegal. I guess we should be glad that he landed in Kansas and not Arizona or his name may be Miguel Sanchez instead of Clark Kent.
Anyways, its nothing political, Clark is just upset bc he put some money into US bonds and now he realizes that they are going to be worth nothing bc of America's debt issue.
-Bandit Keith
Good point Bandit Keith. He wasn't born in our country so he is technically an illegal. I guess we should be glad that he landed in Kansas and not Arizona or his name may be Miguel Sanchez instead of Clark Kent.
Anyways, its nothing political, Clark is just upset bc he put some money into US bonds and now he realizes that they are going to be worth nothing bc of America's debt issue.
Oh. I've been meaning to say that for a while, thank you!Razhem said:
America is a continent, people. Remember?
That is by far the best reason to be critical of your own home/town/nation/world. To bring its flaws to the fore and possibily help mend them to improve the whole.FangShadow said:
It takes an special kind of open mind to pull that off.
Yeah. I always thought of Superman as a wated potential, as far as characters go. A man with massive super powers, strong sense of fairness and a journalist all at the same time?FangShadow said:
So much space for character and plot development.
Oh,
Ahahahaha, irony can be a beautiful thing.Asuka Soryu said:
We can. Not all of us do, though.Necromancer Jim said:
We can. Not all of us do, though. :sigh:Necromancer Jim said:
Not to such extremes, but I heard that his comic's 60's run definitely portrayed him as disillusioned about his country, making him kind of popular with the protesting college crowd.Necromancer Jim said:
Seeing as I cannot post my usual pic due to this being slighty interesting to me,here's something pleasant to look at.
Superman's loyalty has always been to the entire world. If it wasn't, then how come there were comic books published where he fought The Nazis long before America was even interested in entering "Europe's War"?
And yes, I know his creators were Jewish and this was what motivated that, but it still stands that the character of Superman has stood for justice EVERYWHERE in the world, and not just America or American policy since his inception, so it's not like this is anything new. Besides which, Superman lives in a universe where Lex Luthor was once President of the United States. It's not like it's the same America we have in our world.
And yes, I know his creators were Jewish and this was what motivated that, but it still stands that the character of Superman has stood for justice EVERYWHERE in the world, and not just America or American policy since his inception, so it's not like this is anything new. Besides which, Superman lives in a universe where Lex Luthor was once President of the United States. It's not like it's the same America we have in our world.
Isn't this always the case? *remembers Mass Effect sex scene scandal*Milkman Dan said:
Wait a minute...
Since when did he even HAVE to have Citizenship? Surely, throughout the ages in both comic, movie, tv series/cartoons and whatever other medium he's been shown in, he's saved the world and many countries OTHER than the USA any countless number of times...
Why would he ever have needed to tie himself to one country? And (in some of the universes) doesn't he have different bases to live in that AREN'T the USA? Like his polar caves (I forget if they were Arctic or Antarctic) in the old movies and the Justice League space station/s...
Since when did he even HAVE to have Citizenship? Surely, throughout the ages in both comic, movie, tv series/cartoons and whatever other medium he's been shown in, he's saved the world and many countries OTHER than the USA any countless number of times...
Why would he ever have needed to tie himself to one country? And (in some of the universes) doesn't he have different bases to live in that AREN'T the USA? Like his polar caves (I forget if they were Arctic or Antarctic) in the old movies and the Justice League space station/s...
No surprise.
It's been a growing phenomenon in the comic-book industry to insert ham-handed political screeds into the mouths of various superheroes. And while once these screeds were superpatriotic in nature, most of that was a direct result of World War II.
Marvel kicked the current mess off with its "Civil War", which was about as much a one-sided straw-man rant about right-wing fascism as Rush Limbaugh's rants about empty-headed liberalism. We got to see Captain America reduced to a witless tool who couldn't even elucidate on the existing right-wing talking points of the day, let alone construct an argument of his own.
He provided nothing more than a punching bag for --- ironically enough --- the quite fascistic "Superhero Registration Act" which actually drafted American citizens into permanent federal service for the sin of having superpowers. Who needs free will and volunteerism when we can just sic Iron Man on you, and have him give you a lecture while he's at it about how you're a Tea Partier if you're resistant to the idea?
So it seems the pendulum of political pontificating has not been done away with, but instead has been commandeered by those on the left who feel that now it's "their turn" to do the very thing they despised from the right --- indoctrinating America's youth with their version of social values.
EDIT: Oh, BTW, for those who care? Superman arrived on Earth as an orphaned baby and was ADOPTED by American citizens. Yes, that's legal, and yes, there's precedent (though kind of obviously involving babies from other countries as opposed to other planets). But since Clark Kent and Superman are the same guy and Clark ISN'T renouncing his citizenship, the whole thing is pretty hollow as a political statement.
It's been a growing phenomenon in the comic-book industry to insert ham-handed political screeds into the mouths of various superheroes. And while once these screeds were superpatriotic in nature, most of that was a direct result of World War II.
Marvel kicked the current mess off with its "Civil War", which was about as much a one-sided straw-man rant about right-wing fascism as Rush Limbaugh's rants about empty-headed liberalism. We got to see Captain America reduced to a witless tool who couldn't even elucidate on the existing right-wing talking points of the day, let alone construct an argument of his own.
He provided nothing more than a punching bag for --- ironically enough --- the quite fascistic "Superhero Registration Act" which actually drafted American citizens into permanent federal service for the sin of having superpowers. Who needs free will and volunteerism when we can just sic Iron Man on you, and have him give you a lecture while he's at it about how you're a Tea Partier if you're resistant to the idea?
So it seems the pendulum of political pontificating has not been done away with, but instead has been commandeered by those on the left who feel that now it's "their turn" to do the very thing they despised from the right --- indoctrinating America's youth with their version of social values.
EDIT: Oh, BTW, for those who care? Superman arrived on Earth as an orphaned baby and was ADOPTED by American citizens. Yes, that's legal, and yes, there's precedent (though kind of obviously involving babies from other countries as opposed to other planets). But since Clark Kent and Superman are the same guy and Clark ISN'T renouncing his citizenship, the whole thing is pretty hollow as a political statement.
Well done sir, I award you with a cholocate chip cookies may they always taste awesome.PureLocke said: