Superman Quits America, Fox News Readers Take the News Badly

NinjaDeathSlap

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BrunDeign said:
I can see both sides here.

On one hand, Superman's line about "The American Way" not being enough anymore can be taken very badly.

On the other hand, he isn't technically from the U.S. in the first place.

However, I have to agree with the "hate crowd" on this one. I'm not going to start calling anyone unAmerican, but Superman has been an American comic book staple for quite a few decades, and that was his "main thing" for the longest time.

And that line about "The American Way" was pretty bad writing in my opinion. To say that your character's "catch phrase" for his entire existence doesn't cut it anymore? Bad idea DC.
The Comic might be written by Americans, but that doesn't mean the character has to be entirely US centric.

That catchphrase originates from a long time ago when the world wasn't such an international place. Today it just makes him sound like that he saves the world on behalf of America, because only America knows whats best for everyone. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not out to say that America is bad, not at all, but Superman taking a more modern attitude for modern times and showing that he stands for humanity as a whole, rather than just being endorsed bu one country can only be a good thing IMO.
 

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This isn't something Superman would do. He's true neutral. Though, I suppose it varies on the writer.

In honor of how Superman should be- I'm not to going to talk about the Fox commentators today. I don't even know where I'd begin...
 

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Being proud of your country inevitably leads to delusions of superiority. Just look at our good ol' country of the USA. We blatantly lie to our children via history books, bicker about what's more right and more wrong, slam other countries for not being free enough, and generally act like Jesus Christ wanks to the American flag.

Meanwhile, we have some pretty absurd freedom infringements going on constantly, a frantic effort to suck the collective cocks of every corporation that makes over a bil a year, and a fervent belief that not wildly cheering this on is a socialist, communist, Marxist, Satanist, Islamic agenda to bring us down.

Having watched left leaning news and, uhm, whatever you would call Fox...I'd say that Fox needs to shut the hell up. They've incensed a bunch of backwater idiots into madly hating things like education. And teachers. And gays. And non-Christians. And Obama. Oh Gooood Obama is awful. So awful that they would occasionally stir up the fire about his birth certificate, and even with it widely available they still are gargling on the apology.

tldr; I find it appalling that anyone can get worked up about this. Superman has had to save the world on multiple occasions, and was born on a different bloody planet. They're basically acting like little toddlers who weren't taught to share; they're screaming "MINE" at the top of their lungs and tugging on Superman when the other countries ask to share him. What a bunch of brats. I'd conjure they should be more concerned about the crippling debt and our floundering economy. Oh, and that no politician seems to be noting that the uber corrupt "speculators" are driving up oil to $5/gallon for us while the oil companies rake in record profits.
 

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Read the comment section anywhere. If its fox people will hate on liberals. If its pretty much anywhere else on the internet, like here, people will hate on fox news.

People can't just disagree about things, they have to be dim-witted cunts driving the country to apocalypse/bankruptcy. Everyones fucking stupid
 

Sikratua

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GiantRaven said:
cWg | Konka said:
has clark kent give up his us citizenship too? if no then wtf is the point?
Clark Kent and Superman, despite being the same person, are essentially completely different entities. There's absolutely no reason why Clark Kent would renounce his citizenship. Supes doesn't need to do that, as the renouncement was to avoid the political fallout of operating in different countries, not as a statement of 'America is bad' or some such.
I just want to make sure I have this straight. Superman, who, by no account I have ever hear, read, or seen, in ANY way, was ever actually an American citizen, to begin with, renounced a citizenship that he never actually had. Yeah, I know, Clark Kent is an American citizen, by virtue of being found in a ditch by a kindly old couple that neglected to tell the authorities that a fucking spacecraft landed in their back yard.

But, that's actually the point. Superman, even in the DC Universe, is a fictional character. Well, officially, he's not a citizen of anywhere, and doesn't exist in anyone's national databases. Granted, this could be a case similar to Batman's, and we could argue whether or not Clark Kent is actually the alter-ego in this case. But, Clark Kent pays taxes and, presumably, votes. He's the one who officially exists, in the eyes of the system. And, sometimes, that's more important. So, who gives a shit?

The replies to that blog entry? Frankly, I don't see the problem. People go onto internet message boards to spout off about the things they read on the internet, and often do so without the advantage of having the full story. The fault for those replies belongs to the person who wrote the very uninformative blog entry, and called it a full story.

But, on the topic of "spouting off without the full story," I could very easily point at a significant number of people who post on this message board. Rather than actually trying to piece together what's going on, in order to have actual criticism, too many people wil;l just spout off some bullshit about how they hate Republicans, because spouting off before they know the full story makes them evil. Funny how that doesn't make a Democrat "evil," ain't it? All I see is a bunch of pots on this message board calling the kettles on that message board black. Do you have it out of your system yet? Seriously, guys, grow the fuck up.
 

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theApoc said:
GiantRaven said:
I love how Superman, a character who wasn't even born on this planet, not being American is considered 'anti-American'. I wonder if people who think that are the same people who think Obama isn't American enough to be president.
I am often amazed at the ridiculous and narrow minded view of the people who generally post on this site. The character was created as a symbol of honor, justice and freedom. It was created in America for an American audience.

The crux of the article and the attached comments is the absurd liberal ideology being pushed on us by the mainstream media outlets and how bad it actually is for the people of this country. America and Americans have done a lot of good in the past 230 years, and like pretty much EVERY other country on the planet we have also done are share of things that aren't so great. But the notion that we somehow need to be more sensitive to the "feelings" of the rest of the world is nonsense.

I get why DC is doing this, they have a big movie coming out next year and they are positioning Superman as more of a fantastical character than as an American icon. From a business standpoint, makes perfect sense. But let's not pretend that there is some altruistic reason for a change like this. Seriously, how often did it really come up, the fact that Superman was an American? Was his national affiliation really that important to the story? Other than destroying lots of property on American soil, was there ever any question that Superman was just kind of living here? That his goal was to protect the PLANET and not just Americans?

So in the end, other than to drum up some publicity, soften his image for international markets, and in general change something completely irrelevant to the character, who really cares.

And I am sorry, but most of the people who post on the boards don't know enough about anything going on in the media to comment on FOX, CNN or any news outlet and be taken even a little bit seriously.
Superman is a Canadian creation actually.

See, this is why people tend to dislike the US in other parts of the world. Do you realize how elitist that sounds. "We don't have to care about anyone else but ourselves!" We live in a world where everyone is connected all the time all around the world. There's nothing wrong with actually improving international relations instead of just using people or being a jerk. It's part of the information age we live in. Get used to it, or you might find that eventually everyone's going to back the US into a corner.
 

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Prof. Monkeypox said:
This isn't something Superman would do. He's true neutral. Though, I suppose it varies on the writer.
Surely, as a true neutral character. it would make more sense for Superman to have now affiliations with a specific country.
 

Alon Shechter

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Yeah, and I bet me even DARING to STEP on non-american soil makes me a Nazi America-hating bastard.
I gave up on American people's intelligence when they, the descendants of immigrants that built this nation, refuse to let immigrants in because they are "stealing our jobs".
 

Sikratua

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GiantRaven said:
Prof. Monkeypox said:
This isn't something Superman would do. He's true neutral. Though, I suppose it varies on the writer.
Surely, as a true neutral character. it would make more sense for Superman to have now affiliations with a specific country.
Well, by D&D standards, Superman is FAR closer to Lawful Good than to True Neutral. But, then again, that's certainly a matter of whose laws we're talking about, and the perspective opinions of those laws.
 

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I applaud them for actually getting me to click on a story about one of my least favorite comic book heroes of all time, Superman.

To which I say, huh, that's a strange twist.

And then I proceed to buy as many Superman comic books as I ever did, zero. Well, I take that back, I did buy the one where he's killed, their last big gimmick. Maybe I should buy this one to be consistent.

In much better comic book news, they've been releasing a new, deluxe reprinting of Y The Last Man, and the final part of it goes on sale in May. Go read that instead.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
Actually, I'm pretty taken aback by this myself.
Superman is one of those things people think of when the word "America" is used. Certainly, he didn't have to be purely American for the character to work, but it's just a part of the development over all these years...hell even his costume is pretty damn 'Americana'.

Another transition from US to UN? Much like G.I. Joe before them. Again, as a non-American, I really didn't understand why the GI bunch had to STOP being American...

It's like if Danger Mouse denounced his British citizenship to solve crimes internationally. Yes, I would be a bit pissed off about that. Not terribly, but a bit.
This one doesn't hurt as bad, since Superman has always seemed like a stuck up prick. This move just shows what a jerk of a character he really is.

The G.I. Joe one was worse. The history/myth that the heroic image of G.I. Joe was based off of was from an American soldier. Because of that, the slogan was "G.I. Joe. A real American hero."

It is just sicking that they messed it up by making them answer to the UN. G.I. Joe is a fictional thing, there is no reason they had to make them change to answer to the UN. It was a stupid move on the part of whoever owned the rights to it.

Now instead of "G.I. Joe. A real American hero", it is "G.I. Joe. A real United Nations lackey."

The UN always seems to ruin things and this is other one of those moments.
 

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I agree with this action, as being associated with one country is terribly limiting, especially on a planet as diverse as Earth.

I wonder if they're going to have Superman jump in at the royal wedding... that'd be one Hell of a hilarious way to start off his international appeal.
"Sorry to interupt, but I think I saw a group of terrorists sneaking into the basement."

Zero=Interrupt said:
Sure, because over-reacting, left-wing asshats are /such/ a pleasure to read.
Asses in general are unpleasant, regardles of political leanings.
 

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Marmooset said:
Big unintentional funny on the nation blog:
"Who cares - when Steve Reeves passed - so did Superman."
Ouch, man no respect for the dead. Sorry Mr. Christopher Reeve.
 

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LOL @ 'Red Son'.

Surprised they're taking it this badly. I didn't hear too much of this vitriol during Marvel's 'Dark Reign' Arc which pretty much painted the American people as mindless sheep who put one of the most twisted people in that universe in charge of national defense by popular opinion. More than one Marvel hero expressed object disgust at the choice, though they didn't stop fighting the good fight for their home. No one freaked out when Captain America turned against the government for a time.

Most heroes won't look too kindly upon any government trying to monopolize them or hijack their powers for political reasons.

They're fictional characters, folks. They'll always reflect the popular opinion or the writer's own. And right now, the American mood is indeed a lot of self-loathing, in case Dark Reign wasn't a sign.
 

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i like this, now to get the smart part of america (mainly the people who are reading this fit here) to do the same, then we can rename it idiot land.

it makes superman seem a lot better that he isnt an american douche, and he will be far better off in the eyes of its global readers. if your reading superman and are offended by this, i congratulate you for being able to read.
 

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Wooow... There are people that actually think what they wrote in a comment section on that blog?

I think a part of my optimism towards the human race just died.