tactical dating

[Kpt._Rob]

To be honest, that seems downright sociopathic. The idea of manipulating people's lives and emotions, and deceiving them into a date seems disgusting to me. And I can not imagine how anyone would build a solid relationship on such a lie.

I'd have to agree with this. I think you should be able to think of some form of "tactical dating" that isn't a straight up lie, but I dunno.

Even without the lie, I don't like the idea. I've been studying psychology for a long time, I have a good idea of how people work, and if I wanted to I could pretty easily manipulate people. But anytime I catch myself doing it, I stop myself. Manipulating people into doing what you want isn't healthy for them or for you. It reduces people to mechanical dolls, the operations of which are to be controlled for one's own benefit. But in the process of reducing people to mechanical dolls, we lose our ability to connect with them. Probably the single most important part of being a human being is forming bonds with those around us, but when we reduce them to chess pieces we can move to win a game, we lose the ability to connect with them on a deeper more meaningful level. If all you care about is getting laid, then I suppose this sort of thing might be for you, but if you want to have a relationship that is rewarding, not just physically, but spiritually, then you can't let yourself manipulate others.

 

[shootthebandit]

refering to anyone who says its not right to trick someone. i was saying this was a hypothetical thread. i also think its much more effort and probably equally sucessful as actually approaching them, talking to them and letting them know your interested. if they dont like you then move on.

 

[burningdragoon]

To be honest, that seems downright sociopathic. The idea of manipulating people's lives and emotions, and deceiving them into a date seems disgusting to me. And I can not imagine how anyone would build a solid relationship on such a lie.

I'd have to agree with this. I think you should be able to think of some form of "tactical dating" that isn't a straight up lie, but I dunno.

I really feel like my solution is not a lie. There is no manipulation and it requires you to be honest with your intentions.

Oh, I missed your post. That's actually pretty good.

To be honest, that seems downright sociopathic. The idea of manipulating people's lives and emotions, and deceiving them into a date seems disgusting to me. And I can not imagine how anyone would build a solid relationship on such a lie.

I'd have to agree with this. I think you should be able to think of some form of "tactical dating" that isn't a straight up lie, but I dunno.

Even without the lie, I don't like the idea. I've been studying psychology for a long time, I have a good idea of how people work, and if I wanted to I could pretty easily manipulate people. But anytime I catch myself doing it, I stop myself. Manipulating people into doing what you want isn't healthy for them or for you. It reduces people to mechanical dolls, the operations of which are to be controlled for one's own benefit. But in the process of reducing people to mechanical dolls, we lose our ability to connect with them. Probably the single most important part of being a human being is forming bonds with those around us, but when we reduce them to chess pieces we can move to win a game, we lose the ability to connect with them on a deeper more meaningful level. If all you care about is getting laid, then I suppose this sort of thing might be for you, but if you want to have a relationship that is rewarding, not just physically, but spiritually, then you can't let yourself manipulate others.

Yeah, manipulating others is bad too. So someone could come up with a way that is both not lying and not manipulating then, hehe. The group outing idea Da Chi had seems ok if you are upfront with everything.

 

[HigherTomorrow]

Or...you could...you know...ask her out on a real date?

 

[TheTaco007]

Or you can just man up and ASK SOMEONE OUT.

Seriously, it's NOT THAT HARD.

 

[Macgyvercas]

Roofies or chloroform... I am a traditionalist.

thats just rape

OBJECTION! it's only rape if she says no.

Correction! Rape is an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with another person without that person's consent. Someone who is unconscious can not legally consent, so it would be rape. And implied consent (where it is assumed the person would give consent if they were capable of doing so) doesn't work here either (that only works for life saving first aid).

 

[firedfns13]

so i have discovered a new concept i have not used (and probably wouldnt) but i would regard as a good idea. its called tactical dating i got the idea from this pepsi advert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiaNFcMSbmA

heres the basic concept: if you cannot get a girl (or boy) then you may require a clever tactic)

heres my idea: you get a freind to organise a date, get them to tell you were and when they are meeting. wait at that location and walk around awkward looking at your watch and once they get a bit impatient ask them if they have been stood up (which they have thanks to your friend), then tell them that you have also been stood up and then go from there. you will instanly have a mutual understanding

N.B: this is just really a hypothetical thread, it would probably be much easier to get a date legitimatly rather than make some eloborate shame

so what would your tactic be?

My tactics are varied:

My tactic for the UIC target trip was jokingly walking up to girls and saying, "Hi I'm Name_Here. Nice to meet you."
Worked quite well, got 4 numbers, and the girl I'm currently hooking up with, and 3 friends out of it.

Another one that worked but requires some luck (worked-ish, seeing as I haven't gotten her number yet) was walking on the elevator at the same time as a group of girls, asking what floor they're on, and press the button for them. Strike up small talk and get off at your floor, then turn around and press all the buttons. They'll yell something, which I yelled back "At least you'll remember me!"
They did; I didn't recognize them in the hallway until they yelled "There's the elevator boy" and filled me in to what I did.

However, the 'Hi my name is' tactic only works in situations that you can approach people. You gotta use your own judgement, though I can say by my own experience this year that approaching girls leaning over the railings at a soccer match or a girl that has a guy with her in the dining hall does not work.

 

[Soylent Dave]

So I was thinking maybe I could bide my time with the mother, get in good with the daughter, let her percolate until she comes of age. . .

Aside from that being a preferred tactic of sexual predators (or 'paedophiles' if you prefer), so you probably wouldn't want to get yourself confused with one of them, the girl thinks you'd be a suitable boyfriend for her mum, and as such will never ever ever be interested in you, ever.

Ever.

(also don't knock older women. They're less likely to talk utter bollocks at you and expect you to give a shit...)

 

[Hoplon]

*Sniff* *Sniff* is that the sink of horrible desperation?

I think it is.

Seriously, what's with the need for elaborate plans to date some one?

 

[Erana]

To be honest, that seems downright sociopathic. The idea of manipulating people's lives and emotions, and deceiving them into a date seems disgusting to me. And I can not imagine how anyone would build a solid relationship on such a lie.

I'd have to agree with this. I think you should be able to think of some form of "tactical dating" that isn't a straight up lie, but I dunno.

Even without the lie, I don't like the idea. I've been studying psychology for a long time, I have a good idea of how people work, and if I wanted to I could pretty easily manipulate people. But anytime I catch myself doing it, I stop myself. Manipulating people into doing what you want isn't healthy for them or for you. It reduces people to mechanical dolls, the operations of which are to be controlled for one's own benefit. But in the process of reducing people to mechanical dolls, we lose our ability to connect with them. Probably the single most important part of being a human being is forming bonds with those around us, but when we reduce them to chess pieces we can move to win a game, we lose the ability to connect with them on a deeper more meaningful level. If all you care about is getting laid, then I suppose this sort of thing might be for you, but if you want to have a relationship that is rewarding, not just physically, but spiritually, then you can't let yourself manipulate others.

The sad truth is that there are a lot of people out there who could care less of spiritual rewards, and another large group of people who insist that people who are interested in true emotional connections are losers who will never find someone.
Which is a terrible, terrible notion.
Ideally, I'll only surround myself with people interested in true relationships, both in the platonic and the romantic. I can't help but fear the, "people wind up dating their parents" thing, though...

But yeah, if there's someone I'm interested in, I'll man... Erm... woman up to it and ask them out. If they're threatened by a woman asking them out, then they prolly aren't the guy for me in the first place.

 

[SimuLord]

"I think that A, you have an act and B, not having an act is your act."

Cookie for the reference. And seriously, guys? I'm not a girl, but I've dated enough of them to know that they will tell stories about what idiots you guys were after they've dumped your asses.

 

[NLS]

Clever plans sometimes work out. Not sure if it was her plan to get me or my plan to get her, but it worked at the end of the day.

 

[sageoftruth]

Roofies or chloroform... I am a traditionalist.

thats just rape

OBJECTION! it's only rape if she says no.

And when she sees you hanging out with her original date and puts it all together?

suggest a threesome?

So I guess unconsciousness means consent?

 

[hyperhammy]

Roofies or chloroform... I am a traditionalist.

thats just rape

You say rape. I say surprise sex.

"surprise butt secks!"
Cookie for the reference.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

Well it seems like a clever idea, it just seems a bit too risky. Having your good friend stand her up would get really awkward if she ever found out about you two hanging out. Even if she didn't put two and two together. Perhaps it would be a better strategy if it were more refined...

 

[Srkkl]

thats just rape

Eh, you say rape, I say tactical dating with extreme prejudice. tomato/tomatoe.

Hilarity, thy name is you.

OT: I like the original plan you posted.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

To be honest, that seems downright sociopathic. The idea of manipulating people's lives and emotions, and deceiving them into a date seems disgusting to me. And I can not imagine how anyone would build a solid relationship on such a lie.

^^^THIS^^^

I cannot see myself in a successful, long term relationship if it was based off an elaborate scheme. Also imagine the amount of money your accomplices in the scheme could demand of you through blackmail.

"surprise butt secks!"
Cookie for the reference.

"Oh Joey, with you its never a surprise!"

 

[iLikeHippos]

Tactical dating?

Seriously, it is quite stupid and inefficient since you can't use resources, lies or "tactics" to get a date if you're a MAN!

But, if you would, I'd say... You'd tell her, that you'd play some kissing game with some friends. The twist is, only you and the gal would be the ones kissing. The other ones would SEEM to be involved, but isn't.

... Yeah, those kind of hoaxes are effing dirty. Not manly at all. Coming from someone sitting at the computer all day.

 

[Grigori361]

Roofies or chloroform... I am a traditionalist.

thats just rape

Hey remember, as they teach you in first aid training, unconsciousness implies consent.

 

[Grigori361]

To be honest, that seems downright sociopathic. The idea of manipulating people's lives and emotions, and deceiving them into a date seems disgusting to me. And I can not imagine how anyone would build a solid relationship on such a lie.

and therin lies the appeal.