Not if you yell surprise.shootthebandit said:thats just rapeJudas Iscariot said:Roofies or chloroform... I am a traditionalist.
Not if you yell surprise.shootthebandit said:thats just rapeJudas Iscariot said:Roofies or chloroform... I am a traditionalist.
My exact thought after reading this thread.. xD then you can make her the guilty one "the only reason you ever loved me was becaused i tricked you into loving me!" xDPurpleLemur said:Well, at least with elaborate plans you can monologue the poor girl like an evil super villain about how your plan was so cunning.Dom Kebbell said:*Sniff* *Sniff* is that the sink of horrible desperation?
I think it is.
Seriously, what's with the need for elaborate plans to date some one?
hmm that would be a low risk operatiion.. if your discovered you'll just have to pull out.. <.< oh also i've perfected the original tactic:El Poncho said:First you gather some information through Tactical Observation then tactically use that information to make it seems like you tactically have a lot in common with her, tactically.
No, doing what the OP says requires her to get hurt. The method the OP describes is for her to get stood up so that she's emotionally vulnerable enough that she'll be open to a date. Now I don't know if you've ever been stood up before, but I have, and it sucks. Playing with someone's emotions like that is sick, whether or not you want to have a long term relationship with them (though to be honest, I feel like if you're not at least curious about the option of having a long term relationship with someone, you shouldn't date them in the first place, because people will get hurt in that situation as well). And yes, people do get hurt all the time in relationships, and we do often have to try lots of relationships before we find the right one, but that absolutely does not excuse that sort of behavior. People aren't toys to be played with, treating them as if they were is the very definition of sociopathy, that is, treating humans like objects because of a failure to recognize that they are themselves thinking feeling entities.lizards said:*snip*
that is different, when you beat up a homeless man you hurt him or whatever, doing what the op said has no downside, no chance for her to get hurt, and if you havent noticed general rules and relationship rules are DIFFERENT
throughout the course of our lives we are going to meet more people than well ever remember or care about, and as it stands girls are only going to take notice if you luck out, or make them notice, and while i said in my last post he should just ask her on a date their is a chance that she will say no, just because she niether knows him or cares, whereas start on some common ground, put himself into a position where she would notice, and then he has a chance with her
when it comes to relationships the ends justify the means, their will be trillions of people that are perfect for eachother and grow up in the same town, be the same age, and maybe even have some of the same friends, but will never even take notice of eachother or one will try but get shot down by the other, and yes in a perfect and fair world this would be wrong, but as it stands its not, and any chance that he has that could bring happiness to someone else along with himself he should take
edit: and your wrong about the end to, if he is willing to try this than she means something to him, and if hes willing to do whatever it takes, even if it is morally questionable, than he isnt treating her like an object, hes treating her as someone who means more than anyone else to him, which is pretty damn admirable as far as im concerned
These were my thoughts as well. It's like what Jackie from "That 70's Show" once said;Kpt._Rob said:To be honest, that seems downright sociopathic. The idea of manipulating people's lives and emotions, and deceiving them into a date seems disgusting to me. And I can not imagine how anyone would build a solid relationship on such a lie.
when it comes to dating (this kind of thing hes suggesting seems to imply that hes in highschool and this is true of that time more than all others) to a girl who doesnt know you, an object is the only thing you are, they will judge you on what she thinks of you based on what she has heard, and what you look like, before two people have talked they mean NOTHING to eachother and generally one of those two people couldnt give less of a damn what happened to the otherKpt._Rob said:No, doing what the OP says requires her to get hurt. The method the OP describes is for her to get stood up so that she's emotionally vulnerable enough that she'll be open to a date. Now I don't know if you've ever been stood up before, but I have, and it sucks. Playing with someone's emotions like that is sick, whether or not you want to have a long term relationship with them (though to be honest, I feel like if you're not at least curious about the option of having a long term relationship with someone, you shouldn't date them in the first place, because people will get hurt in that situation as well). And yes, people do get hurt all the time in relationships, and we do often have to try lots of relationships before we find the right one, but that absolutely does not excuse that sort of behavior. People aren't toys to be played with, treating them as if they were is the very definition of sociopathy, that is, treating humans like objects because of a failure to recognize that they are themselves thinking feeling entities.lizards said:*snip*
that is different, when you beat up a homeless man you hurt him or whatever, doing what the op said has no downside, no chance for her to get hurt, and if you havent noticed general rules and relationship rules are DIFFERENT
throughout the course of our lives we are going to meet more people than well ever remember or care about, and as it stands girls are only going to take notice if you luck out, or make them notice, and while i said in my last post he should just ask her on a date their is a chance that she will say no, just because she niether knows him or cares, whereas start on some common ground, put himself into a position where she would notice, and then he has a chance with her
when it comes to relationships the ends justify the means, their will be trillions of people that are perfect for eachother and grow up in the same town, be the same age, and maybe even have some of the same friends, but will never even take notice of eachother or one will try but get shot down by the other, and yes in a perfect and fair world this would be wrong, but as it stands its not, and any chance that he has that could bring happiness to someone else along with himself he should take
edit: and your wrong about the end to, if he is willing to try this than she means something to him, and if hes willing to do whatever it takes, even if it is morally questionable, than he isnt treating her like an object, hes treating her as someone who means more than anyone else to him, which is pretty damn admirable as far as im concerned