Teens Sedate Parents For Net Access

[kael013]

OK first of all, what were they [i/]doing[/i] on the internet? Stupid Facebook updates, online shopping, watching "adult" films? That information is vital to the hilarity/depressing-ness of this story. Second of all: C'mon girls, really? you only had to deal with that for 3 more years.

 

[Gilhelmi]

Considering the fact the parent called the police instead of being a responsible parent and discipling the children good on the kids. The parent sounds kinda shitty from the way they've acted.

Really? Not in my book. They wanted proof before they punished their children, and the police had the testing kit they needed for that proof. The parents just did not want to punish unfairly. Also, the teens should have spent time in jail.

 

[gravian]

It just sounds like a pretty stupid way for them to get their own back. I mean, if you want to prove you're mature enough to have your curfew extended/removed then giving your parents what is effectively a date-rape drug is probably the worst way. Yes, they are 16 and can (supposedly) understand their actions but with that level of critical thinking their curfew was probably justified, hah.

It does sound strict for 16 year olds so there's most likely a good reason behind it. Perhaps they were falling behind with their studies or exams by going on Facebook or Twitter too much, or staying up too late and not doing well in school the next day. If your kids kept doing that and it was becoming a real problem then I can understand doing something extreme to make them think about the consequences of their actions which they were probably ignoring.

Surely the best way to get around it and make your parents respect your independence more would be to argue it out and make compromises; I do better at my studies and it turn you let me go on the internet later. Demolishing trust instead of building it up for one night of freedom is just petty and childish, and practically shows why the curfew was needed in the first place.

 

[Gilhelmi]

[small]Well, I guess it's about time to call and make an appointment to have my tubes tied.[/small]

For some reason, it kind of bothers me that people think this is no big deal. What if one of the parents had over-dosed and died because of something they had used and used too much of? The idea that there could be a copy-cat of these two girls accidentally killing his/her parent or guardian because he/she wanted more internet time, which they probably had many hours of already, gives me the chills.

Ten o'clock in the evening is not an unreasonable curfew for electronic entertainment that they've probably been glued to most of the day already. Wanting your kid to play a board game with a friend or read a book for a while, or just get adequate sleep for the next day - is not bad parenting. As far as I am concerned what those girls did was dangerous, I don't think jail-time is particularly necessary; but this isn't amusing or okay either.

Probably because the girls stuck it to the man by fighting against authoritative restrictions.

There are a lot of people on the faaaaaaaaar left on the Escapist. Comes with the territory, I guess, but there is definitely such a thing as too much freedom.

Ya, you 2 are the more sane ones here. So I will talk to you.

I read the article, the only reason the parents did not OD was because they only drank a quarter of the milkshake, because "they tasted funny".

Now that there is scary, and I am annoyed at the Escapist for leaving that part out.

 

[Baldry]

Considering the fact the parent called the police instead of being a responsible parent and discipling the children good on the kids. The parent sounds kinda shitty from the way they've acted.

Really? Not in my book. They wanted proof before they punished their children, and the police had the testing kit they needed for that proof. The parents just did not want to punish unfairly. Also, the teens should have spent time in jail.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Drug-Testing-Kits-Methadone-Cannabis/dp/B0026RQ6Z8/ref=pd_sim_d_3
There you go, a drug testing kit. It'll check for benzodiazepine, a key ingredient in things that make you go night night. It's not that hard. Overreacting's just gonna cause the kid to resent their parent and authority and cause them to act out again. Also since the police didn't punish them the kids are gonna feel like they can do more serious things and get away with it.

 

[theswordsmn]

It could have been a lot worse for the teens. Back when I did work with a Juvenile hall, there was a girl in there who had put a sleeping pill in her mom's drink so that she could stay the night at a slumber party one of her friends was having. However, it turned out the mom was allergic to the medication and had to be hospitalized. The girl was charged with attempted murder and her mom chose to press charges.

 

[revjor]

These are kids who are obviously idiots. Idiots drugging people has to be brought to the police. The kind of drugs that make you fall asleep can easily become the kind of drugs you never wake up from again. This isn't a "aw shucks" sort of thing. It's a "We just wanted to go on the internet. We didn't know that much could put them in the hospital."

 

[Gilhelmi]

Considering the fact the parent called the police instead of being a responsible parent and discipling the children good on the kids. The parent sounds kinda shitty from the way they've acted.

Really? Not in my book. They wanted proof before they punished their children, and the police had the testing kit they needed for that proof. The parents just did not want to punish unfairly. Also, the teens should have spent time in jail.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Drug-Testing-Kits-Methadone-Cannabis/dp/B0026RQ6Z8/ref=pd_sim_d_3
There you go, a drug testing kit. It'll check for benzodiazepine, a key ingredient in things that make you go night night. It's not that hard. Overreacting's just gonna cause the kid to resent their parent and authority and cause them to act out again. Also since the police didn't punish them the kids are gonna feel like they can do more serious things and get away with it.

And how long to delivery? Long enough for it to be out of their systems, maybe, depends on which one they go with and all else. Or, it is easier to go to the local PD and get a kit there.

That is like complaining about a rape victim going to police to get a rape kit done instead of ordering one on Amazon.

Also, read the linked article. The girls were arrested, but because they were minors, no details were released. Which is not overreacting, the parent could have died from OD. Another thing missed by the Escapist, was that the parents only drank a quarter of the milkshake. Had they finished them, then this head-line would be "Teens Murder Parents for Net Access". And yes, even if it was an accident, they were breaking the law. Any death caused by a criminal (note criminal, not misdemeanor) act, directly or indirectly, is considered murder. Though they might have gotten Manslaughter.

 

[Baldry]

Considering the fact the parent called the police instead of being a responsible parent and discipling the children good on the kids. The parent sounds kinda shitty from the way they've acted.

Really? Not in my book. They wanted proof before they punished their children, and the police had the testing kit they needed for that proof. The parents just did not want to punish unfairly. Also, the teens should have spent time in jail.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Drug-Testing-Kits-Methadone-Cannabis/dp/B0026RQ6Z8/ref=pd_sim_d_3
There you go, a drug testing kit. It'll check for benzodiazepine, a key ingredient in things that make you go night night. It's not that hard. Overreacting's just gonna cause the kid to resent their parent and authority and cause them to act out again. Also since the police didn't punish them the kids are gonna feel like they can do more serious things and get away with it.

And how long to delivery? Long enough for it to be out of their systems, maybe, depends on which one they go with and all else. Or, it is easier to go to the local PD and get a kit there.

That is like complaining about a rape victim going to police to get a rape kit done instead of ordering one on Amazon.

Also, read the linked article. The girls were arrested, but because they were minors, no details were released. Which is not overreacting, the parent could have died from OD. Another thing missed by the Escapist, was that the parents only drank a quarter of the milkshake. Had they finished them, then this head-line would be "Teens Murder Parents for Net Access". And yes, even if it was an accident, they were breaking the law. Any death caused by a criminal (note criminal, not misdemeanor) act, directly or indirectly, is considered murder. Though they might have gotten Manslaughter.

You can probably go to your local chemist and get one, I apologise for not searching for every single place you can get a drug test.

No. Rape's a bit more serious then a couple of kids knocking out their guardian so they can go on the internet.

Kids break the law. I'm not saying that's wrong, I'm saying it's up to the parent to enforce those laws. It's up to the parent to teach the kids that going around drugging people isn't the proper way to do things. All the parent has done by going to the police is re-enforced the fact that they're a shit parent who can't handle the responsibility given to them. If they were a half-way decent parent they would trust their kid not to go on dodgy sites and to have talked to them in the first place. All this parent's doing is shifting the responsibility, they let the internet security take responsibility for what the kid does on the internet and they're letting the police take responsibility for the discipling of the kids.

 

[MrMixelPixel]

The parents obviously provoked them. A 10 P.M. curfew!? Draconian.

 

[RJ 17]

All I can say is "lol". I mean really? They wanted to be on the internet THAT bad?

 

[Gilhelmi]

Considering the fact the parent called the police instead of being a responsible parent and discipling the children good on the kids. The parent sounds kinda shitty from the way they've acted.

Really? Not in my book. They wanted proof before they punished their children, and the police had the testing kit they needed for that proof. The parents just did not want to punish unfairly. Also, the teens should have spent time in jail.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Drug-Testing-Kits-Methadone-Cannabis/dp/B0026RQ6Z8/ref=pd_sim_d_3
There you go, a drug testing kit. It'll check for benzodiazepine, a key ingredient in things that make you go night night. It's not that hard. Overreacting's just gonna cause the kid to resent their parent and authority and cause them to act out again. Also since the police didn't punish them the kids are gonna feel like they can do more serious things and get away with it.

And how long to delivery? Long enough for it to be out of their systems, maybe, depends on which one they go with and all else. Or, it is easier to go to the local PD and get a kit there.

That is like complaining about a rape victim going to police to get a rape kit done instead of ordering one on Amazon.

Also, read the linked article. The girls were arrested, but because they were minors, no details were released. Which is not overreacting, the parent could have died from OD. Another thing missed by the Escapist, was that the parents only drank a quarter of the milkshake. Had they finished them, then this head-line would be "Teens Murder Parents for Net Access". And yes, even if it was an accident, they were breaking the law. Any death caused by a criminal (note criminal, not misdemeanor) act, directly or indirectly, is considered murder. Though they might have gotten Manslaughter.

You can probably go to your local chemist and get one, I apologise for not searching for every single place you can get a drug test.

No. Rape's a bit more serious then a couple of kids knocking out their guardian so they can go on the internet.

Kids break the law. I'm not saying that's wrong, I'm saying it's up to the parent to enforce those laws. It's up to the parent to teach the kids that going around drugging people isn't the proper way to do things. All the parent has done by going to the police is re-enforced the fact that they're a shit parent who can't handle the responsibility given to them. If they were a half-way decent parent they would trust their kid not to go on dodgy sites and to have talked to them in the first place. All this parent's doing is shifting the responsibility, they let the internet security take responsibility for what the kid does on the internet and they're letting the police take responsibility for the discipling of the kids.

Last word I have is this. We only see one small snapshot into this family. We do not know really what preceded this incident. What if, I hate the what ifs but, this was not a first time issue. I do not mean with this particular crime, but other things. Every time the parents do the discipline, the teens go "NO, freedom" and rebel, even when the rules are reasonable (like no texting and driving, be home by 9, ect).

If this was a teen boy, drugging a woman, would you only want him charged with rape? I would say no, drugging is incredibly dangerous. For me that is what this comes down to.

EDIT: In the US, a drug testing kit at the Pharmacy costs $20 (US). Police charge only at cost, no profit.

 

[major_chaos]

from what I'm understanding of the story the blames lay with the parents s well as the teens. First of all, 10 PM cut off, at 15 is to restrictive, so it wouldn't surprise me to learn of other violations of this ill suited rule. kids grow up, and treat a 15 year old like a 12 year old is going to cause problems in short order.

OK this isn't addressed just to you, but kinda everyone who is saying this: can you explain what is so wrong with 10PM cut off for internet? I wasn't allowed up past 9PM until I was 17, at 15 I was rejoicing that the "only 2 hours of computer a day" rule was being loosened, and I certainly never felt the need to drug anyone.

OT: Stupid entitled brats who think they "deserve" to have whatever they want and are willing to go to any length to get it make me ill, little shits should spend a night in juvie just so they understand that's not how it works.

 

[Baldry]

Considering the fact the parent called the police instead of being a responsible parent and discipling the children good on the kids. The parent sounds kinda shitty from the way they've acted.

Really? Not in my book. They wanted proof before they punished their children, and the police had the testing kit they needed for that proof. The parents just did not want to punish unfairly. Also, the teens should have spent time in jail.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Drug-Testing-Kits-Methadone-Cannabis/dp/B0026RQ6Z8/ref=pd_sim_d_3
There you go, a drug testing kit. It'll check for benzodiazepine, a key ingredient in things that make you go night night. It's not that hard. Overreacting's just gonna cause the kid to resent their parent and authority and cause them to act out again. Also since the police didn't punish them the kids are gonna feel like they can do more serious things and get away with it.

And how long to delivery? Long enough for it to be out of their systems, maybe, depends on which one they go with and all else. Or, it is easier to go to the local PD and get a kit there.

That is like complaining about a rape victim going to police to get a rape kit done instead of ordering one on Amazon.

Also, read the linked article. The girls were arrested, but because they were minors, no details were released. Which is not overreacting, the parent could have died from OD. Another thing missed by the Escapist, was that the parents only drank a quarter of the milkshake. Had they finished them, then this head-line would be "Teens Murder Parents for Net Access". And yes, even if it was an accident, they were breaking the law. Any death caused by a criminal (note criminal, not misdemeanor) act, directly or indirectly, is considered murder. Though they might have gotten Manslaughter.

You can probably go to your local chemist and get one, I apologise for not searching for every single place you can get a drug test.

No. Rape's a bit more serious then a couple of kids knocking out their guardian so they can go on the internet.

Kids break the law. I'm not saying that's wrong, I'm saying it's up to the parent to enforce those laws. It's up to the parent to teach the kids that going around drugging people isn't the proper way to do things. All the parent has done by going to the police is re-enforced the fact that they're a shit parent who can't handle the responsibility given to them. If they were a half-way decent parent they would trust their kid not to go on dodgy sites and to have talked to them in the first place. All this parent's doing is shifting the responsibility, they let the internet security take responsibility for what the kid does on the internet and they're letting the police take responsibility for the discipling of the kids.

Last word I have is this. We only see one small snapshot into this family. We do not know really what preceded this incident. What if, I hate the what ifs but, this was not a first time issue. I do not mean with this particular crime, but other things. Every time the parents do the discipline, the teens go "NO, freedom" and rebel, even when the rules are reasonable (like no texting and driving, be home by 9, ect).

If this was a teen boy, drugging a woman, would you only want him charged with rape? I would say no, drugging is incredibly dangerous. For me that is what this comes down to.

EDIT: In the US, a drug testing kit at the Pharmacy costs $20 (US). Police charge only at cost, no profit.

It's a combination of discipline and teaching the kid right from wrong and how to be a well adjusted human being. The fact that the kid thinks it's acceptable to drug their parent speaks volumes.

No one was raped...I don't see...How this changes anything? Just because the child's now a male shouldn't change a damn thing.

I didn't know there was a price on being a good parent...

 

[Lunar Templar]

from what I'm understanding of the story the blames lay with the parents s well as the teens. First of all, 10 PM cut off, at 15 is to restrictive, so it wouldn't surprise me to learn of other violations of this ill suited rule. kids grow up, and treat a 15 year old like a 12 year old is going to cause problems in short order.

OK this isn't addressed just to you, but kinda everyone who is saying this: can you explain what is so wrong with 10PM cut off for internet? I wasn't allowed up past 9PM until I was 17, at 15 I was rejoicing that the "only 2 hours of computer a day" rule was being loosened, and I certainly never felt the need to drug anyone.

A 10PM cut off on anything is stupid and shows a massive, although apparently warranted, lack of trust.

Granted, this is coming from some one who never had any 'cut off' time of any kind past like, 10 (I think). I could have gotten into WAY more trouble then I did, and as a result, me and my parents never had any real problems.

That said though, they both are big on the 'giving you enough rope to hang your self with', so if they did get a call from the cops about me they'd have let my ass sit in juvie just to prove a point.

 

[Sansha]

Their arrest and whatever consequences they're facing will be a good lesson that they can't get away with shit like this. It's stupid and exploitative at best, dangerous at worst, and they can't have the idea that this is a viable solution to when a person is being a problem.

And to address curfew arguments, my sister and I never had bedtimes. Home by midnight, sure, but stay up as late as you want. We both learned quickly that school on no sleep is agony.

 

[tkioz]

Am I the only one who originally thought the parents would find out through a Facebook status update saying, "Drugged my parents, no internet curfew tonight!! YOLO lol!!" or something of the sort?

No, that's pretty much what popped into my head too.

 

[Arakasi]

So no word on what they were doing on the internet during all of this? Cause that information could easily lead to something more serious or way more lulzy.

I would bet a fair amount of money that Facebook was involved.

See people, it's not videogames that make people evil, it is Facebook.

 

[Beautiful End]

Kids nowadays surprise me.

I mean, was I a prude when I was a kid and no one told me about it? Or was I just normal and kids nowadays are just crazy?
Even if my parents were dicks who allowed me to use the internet for 5 minutes per day, I would have never thought about drugging them so I could use the computer. Here's a lit of what I would have done instead:

-Gone to the library claiming it was homework
-Gone to a friend's house
-Work out a way to extend my allowed time (Maybe pay part of the bill?
-Offer good grades in return
-Found a new hobby

Besides, I would have thought ahead too. I'd know my parents would eventually wake up after passing out randomly for hours. Then they might suspect me. Then what? I do it again? Was it worth it?
At any rate, I would have never done that. I'm not a dick. Or crazy.

 

[thesilentman]

What.

They got pissed off 'cause they weren't able to access the Internet after 10 PM? That's really fucking petty. I really don't want to see what happens when they throw a temper tantrum.

I guess now the girls made their point of how MATURE they are and how SAFE it is to let them roam around the internet.

Look at it the other way: Their parents treated them like small children, and it made them act like small children, what a surprise...

You think that an acceptable response to a curfew (And 10PM is very generous) is to drug the authority figure so you have free reign?

10 PM is certainly generous. I handle a couple of development projects along with school work, and by 10 PM, I'm usually playing Planetside or something else on Steam most of the time.

High school here in the States ends around 4 PM, giving a maximum of 6 hours for Internet time. That's way more than enough for a high school student that is not developing software. As a developer, I'm pretty much forced to stick to the Internet as books aren't as helpful in programming than people are lead to believe. I still finish my programming fill before 10 PM, and that's factoring in half an hour to eat.

I honestly cannot fathom why drug your parents for Internet. What happened to politely asking and honesty and all the things that were hammered into us during elementary school?

They should face jail time regardless. Drugging someone standing between you and something you want because you can't just wait until the morning is not the mark of a well adjusted individual.

I guess now the girls made their point of how MATURE they are and how SAFE it is to let them roam around the internet.

Look at it the other way: Their parents treated them like small children, and it made them act like small children, what a surprise...

You think that an acceptable response to a curfew (And 10PM is very generous) is to drug the authority figure so you have free reign?

No, it's not an acceptable response. But they shouldn't face jail time. They're minors. A conviction won't teach them anything. It'll only ruin their lives. A criminal record typically makes it nearly impossible to get a job and restricts a few of your rights. I really don't understand people who think it's okay to treat minors with the same harshness as adults in the legal system, and I have nothing but contempt for the "tough on crime" attitude. I don't even care if they murdered someone. They're minors. Do you know what "minors" means? It means "stupid". Their brains are physically incapable of comprehending the severity of their actions because they're not fully developed yet. Yes the drugs were a disproportionate response, but jail time is a disproportionate response to that. Are the parents dead? Is there any permanent damage? No? Then just ground the girls for months and months. They may be teenagers but they're still human, they'll feel guilty about this. And when they're older, they'll feel really guilty about this.

And I firmly believe that no good parent ever calls the police on their own child, unless the child is seriously a threat to them. I don't care if your child is a contract killer. If it's your own flesh and blood, you love her unconditionally unless she ever tries to kill you personally. Okay yes, sleeping pills, kind of a really scary sign. But hardly life-threatening.

Sleeping pills aren't life threatening? Are you kidding me? My mom's a doctor, and the number one thing she warns against is overdose. Overdosing on anything is going to have serious consequences on your body.

It's hard for parents to see their kids in jail. I've seen people who's entire lives were ruined by doing a simple act like that. I'm against these kids because they considered doing this to their parents. Nothing justifies losing a life, and this is no exception.

I say get those girls in juvenile detention. It's harsh, but that's the way the world works. It's unfortunate, but true; very, very true