Terraria Creator Confirms No New PC Content

[lord.jeff]

How is someone a sellout for allow more people to have a chance of playing his game?

 

[OldNewNewOld]

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Thank you for the kind words, tho I don't really care about them. Also, I wouldn't say I'm a fan at all.

He promised that more content would be made. Look at the game now compared to launch. It has more content. Promise achieved. He didn't promise infinite content.

He promised a lot of content, specific content that never got into the game.
I never asked for infinite content. I asked for the promised content. He set a goal of what the finished product would look like. The current games does not have a lot of the things that he said it would have. So it's not finished.

"Finished product will have X". Current product doesn't have X, therefore current product is not the finished product.

The fact that you don't care about him wanting to take care of his newborn son is probably the most vomit worthy thing I've read on this thread. Especially since Terraria was made by a 3-person team. The other 2 developers left to make StarBound, the spiritual sequel to Terraria.

As I said, those are his problems. Not mine. He is the one who overestimated his abilities, it wasn't me. If I recall correctly, my parents had also kids, yet I don't see them giving up their jobs for it. He is the one who is unable to manage his time, to plan out his day. And he was working from home anyways. It's not like he would have to leave his son alone at home for 12 hours a day.

Also, he has money that he got from people for the promise of the finished product. He could use it to finish the game. I know it's hard to understand it, but you can pay developer to work for you.

And care to elaborate why you brought up StarBound? Should I buy it in order to get the content that I was promised would be in Terraria? So I should buy the game again to get the full content?

It's PC gamers like you that make us look like bottom feeding basement urchins who inhale Cheetos by the bag.

So, I make all gamer look bad because I don't stay quite when someone tries to fuck me over? Sorry for not being spineless like you.

He earned millions on the promise to add specific content to the game. He didn't keep his promise. People are entitled to complain.

 

[GAunderrated]

How is someone a sellout for allow more people to have a chance of playing his game?

When you go out of your way to alienate your main base to make a quick buck.

Since the dev is done with the PC version with no updates, why not release the source code so people can make mods? Why make promises and then not keep them. Why bait current fans then give them the finger? Because he is a sellout and a bit of a dick.

To be honest if he just let people make mods no one would give a crap. It's because people love terraria and because it had so much potential that people are pissed that he purposly left it handicapped.

 

[NotALiberal]

Oh boy... A game I bought for $1 isn't getting updated...

Whatever will I do? It's not like I can just go out and play it on a console! That would drop me down from being part of the PC master race.

I full expect a series of posts casually alluding to elitism while simultaneously coming off smug and superior. It's so unusual from this community...

Oh would you look at that.

This community is great sometimes isn't it?

 

[Savryc]

Nothing you ever say will make me stop laughing at gamer rage. It's just so cathartic you know? Like The Jeremy Kyle Show.

Hmm, gamer themed Jeremy Kyle Show. There's money in it somewhere.

 

[NotALiberal]

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I understood your comment, so no, it's not a case of me "not getting it". You were being smug and arrogant (and still are). Not everyone can go and buy a game on the console because not everyone has a console, novel thought isn't it? I also understood that you play games on PC, but you're still being a bit of a dick about the whole thing.

It's not "entitlement" (this word needs to fucking die) to be angry at the dev for screwing out the people who made the game what it is (and filled his pockets with cash), on the promise that he would meet a certain set of goals until the game was "finished". He has not, however, and instead decided to hand over the license to a different dev to port to consoles for some extra $ and pretty much told PC gamers to fuck off, going as far as even REFUSING to release mod tools, denying the community the right to make their own extra content beyond what is currently achievable by playing around with game files (which isn't much).

In short, the dev is a dick, he not only didn't keep his end of the bargain, he's refused to release mod tools, despite the fact that he's "washed his hand's clean" of the game.

It doesn't matter if you got it for $1, the dev said he would "finish" the game, and he hasn't. Won't. Refuses to. Then to add salt to the wound, he's also not releasing mod tools.

Yes. Gamers are "entitled" to feel angry, and this guy deserves every bit of shit he gets.

 

[danon]

Looking at the bs the developer had to deal with exemplified in this thread i'm just happy he endured all the hate and bile and updated it at all. I don't think this is why we can't have nice things ever have been such a appropiate term.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

So, I make all gamer look bad because I don't stay quite when someone tries to fuck me over? Sorry for not being spineless like you.

He earned millions on the promise to add specific content to the game. He didn't keep his promise. People are entitled to complain.

He earned millions? Please leave me a citation of this precise info you must have.

And you still seem to think that you're entitled to anything, which is the problem. By your logic people should be "entitled" to have Peter Molyneux's head on a plate for all of the feature he promised that didn't wind up in most games in the last 10-15 that he's made. You don't see people getting butthurt over that.

These things happen. And the money he made off this game could very well be going to support his newborn son. It's his money to do as he pleases with, he shouldn't have to spend it just to appease those who purchased the game and act like spoiled brats over petty things like features in a $10 dollar indie video game. The fact that you call things like raising a child a "problem" means you must have a very lax grasp on priorities and responsibility.

If you think that he should forgo parenting his child just so you can have a few virtual items you have a twisted sense on things and clearly have not had a newborn son. No your parents didn't have to quit their jobs to raise you, and be grateful for that. But your parents also were most likely not part of an small 3 person inde video game company.
You know, a job that takes up an extreme amount of time?

Seriously, either look up Indie Game:The Movie, or just look up the team behind Project Zomboid's story on YouTube and you'll see that making an indie game and getting it noticed is just about one of the most time consuming and hardest things to do.

This isn't a "just pay people to finish it for me" task here chum.

He's a person, not your personal liaison to the virtual that comes up with more content.

Play A New Game.

You keep mentioning that he could just pay people to finish the game for him.

Yeah sure, because that would be cheap right?
Because this wasn't an indie game made from scratch engine and all, right?

You act as if making video games on an indie level is a service to the consumer. Video games are a luxury, quit acting so entitled and grow up. Things fall through and promises get broken. That's life. Be thankful that you got a great game with lots of content already added to it in the first place.

The butthurt fans keep crying about promised content, yet not one has given an example of this promised content.

 

[GAunderrated]

Looking at the bs the developer had to deal with exemplified in this thread i'm just happy he endured all the hate and bile and updated it at all. I don't think this is why we can't have nice things ever have been such a appropiate term.

See for me I have never understood apologists and people who use memes (mostly because they use them incorrectly) so I guess I will indulge and ask the question.

How is gamers reaction to this equate to why we can't have nice things? If the PC players were like "yay we don't get new content, oh well" how would that equate to getting "nice things"? The developer still stopped supporting after 1 major update, broke promises, and refused to let a dedicated community create mods when he himself is no longer dedicated to the game. So even if people took the middle finger graciously there still would be no change and people still wouldn't have "nice things."

It is quite frustrating to see apologists so quick to put down fellow gamers who are correct in their vindication.

 

[Kotaro]

Definitely not buying this again.
So guess who will be moving on to Starbound instead?

 

[pilouuuu]

Well, whatever... We're used to developers starting on the PC, becoming successful and then completely forgetting about who made them what they are. Just look at Lucasarts, iD, Gearbox, Microsoft, Epic, etc, etc.

It's OK, you greedy bastards. When the inevitable console decline begins (which it already has)you're gonna come back and we're going to remember how you supported PC.

Thankfully we have Valve, CD Projekt and other developers who is always there making good quality games for us.

 

[danon]

Because if someone makes massive content for free and severely increases the size of the game and all they get is whining and complaints they are going to stop making updates. It's a really simple concept. They aren't legally bound to make more content updates so why would they when people are acting like brats. Some people just amaze me sometimes in what they think someone owes them just because they bought the game.

 

[GAunderrated]

Because if someone makes massive content for free and severely increases the size of the game and all they get is whining and complaints they are going to stop making updates. It's a really simple concept. They aren't legally bound to make more content updates so why would they when people are acting like brats. Some people just amaze me sometimes in what they think someone owes them just because they bought the game.

Sir your ignorance is showing. Not only that but I would wager that you arn't even apart of the terraria community at all. If you were you would know that most gamers were supportive and constructive up until this issue. Even when the developer pulled a dick move stopping support after 1 major update people took it with grace (for the most part, there was a handful of rage but it was minor). There wasn't even any bad feeling up until the fans got trolled in this incident.

Please get your facts right before you look down on others and talk out of your ass. Thanks.

 

[Doom-Slayer]

Because if someone makes massive content for free and severely increases the size of the game and all they get is whining and complaints they are going to stop making updates. It's a really simple concept. They aren't legally bound to make more content updates so why would they when people are acting like brats. Some people just amaze me sometimes in what they think someone owes them just because they bought the game.

Except when a dev comes out and says "No more content" and "The game isnt being handed off" then hands it off and has more content made, THEN only console users get that new content...ya...we get pissed.

IF he lied to us and handed the game off..fine..I dont care..more people playing the game so thats cool.

IF you hand it off and have new content made to encourage people to buy..okay fine..thats cool as long as all versions get the same stuff. When you make that new stuff exclusive...dick move..

 

[Callate]

And you can hardly blame the guy for standing back and letting someone else pick up the ball and run with it, especially if they're going to toss him a few bags of money as they go by.

Hee hee! You're new to how this whole "internet" thing works, aren'cha?

More seriously... I paid, like, $1.50 for Terraria on a Steam sale. My level of engagement with the thing, and any related drama, could only be lower if I had never played it at all. But while I can understand why a small developer would be inclined to move on to other things, particularly if his prior project was going to continue to provide income without his needing to invest time in it, I can certainly also understand why the game's hardcore following (apparently Terraria has a harcore following...?) would feel that their long-standing support of the title (not just direct financial but word-of-mouth to friends, etc.) was being ill-rewarded by the move.

 

[dtgenshiken7]

Ugh, This was a bad move, not for the game but for the developer.

Maybe if he had leased the right to the console game to the guys making it, he would not have had to 'stand back', but continue working on this.

I get that he wants to give up on this though, it made him a shiteload of money, but it was getting to be too much, there was a lot of expectancy from him to pull more and more wonders out of his ass, and it was probably getting to be a bit too much for the poor fellow.

Still, I can't exactly ignore this, it was a dick move by all accounts, if anyone promises to deliver, they should at least say 'I'm sorry, this won't happen' rather than just saying 'This won't happen, have my middle finger instead.

it was just an indie game, but it carried plenty of reputation, and this man obviously didn't take into account the feelings of the PC gamers (even if they are quite defensive) and for this his next projects, I suspect, won't quite be as successful. Really, the only way to save himself now is to either release one more update with most of the stuff he promised, or a public apology.

 

[zehydra]

I don't have much to say.

Terraria was never much more than a simple indie game for a few cheap dollars. Anybody could really make a spinoff if they wanted to.

Honestly, stuff like this might actually provoke people to do just that.

After all, Terraria was more or less a response to Minecraft's popularity.

 

[Dusty Donuts]

It would be really really hilarious if this new content was just like, a little hat for the player or a poster of a console controller you could put up on the wall. Then all this crap would have been over absolutely nothing.

 

[Azeal]

Was gonna say "fuck you, redigit", but after seeing that he isn't actually managing the ports, not quite as mad. I still think he should find someone to implement the pc features; he could probably throw it at the modding community and *bam* it would be done. That part still irks me.

now that that's said, moar Torchlight 2

 

[Joccaren]

Since when do consoles cost $300? You need to stop looking at the models with built in diamonds.

Xbox's today go as low as $60.

And if you use a monitor for a computer, then you can generally use the same monitor for a console... If you use a laptop then well... Tough for you, but you're in the minority.

Wow, where do you live. I want to live there. Of course that would probably cost more than the price of a console anyway, so would end up utterly pointless.
Meanwhilst here in Australia, prices are a little less fair.
A 250Gb with Kinect bundle this time last year cost $500, and this year a 250Gb model costs $400, no Kinect [Yeah, somewhat inconsistent in products, but that's what I'm able to find info on ]. The 4Gb with Kinect was $400 last year, and thus I'd assume the 4Gb would be $300 this year.
PS3 is likely worse, considering it attempted to launch for $1,000 here.
Links:
https://ebgames.com.au/xbox360-150845-Xbox-360-250GB-Console-Xbox-360
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/213446/20110914/microsoft-xbox-360-console-games-price-cuts.htm#.UGQVqU3Mh8E


As for using my current monitor with a console, its unlikely. For one it has issues with certain graphics cards [thanks to using a bypass type board or something according to the sellers], which will likely include those in consoles, and will only accept DVI-D Dual Link Connections. Assuming a console could handle this, I would have to unplug it from my PC every time I wanted to play 1 game, then swap it back once I was finished with said game, and this is assuming I can fit the Xbox in my room near my PC, which is unlikely for both power reasons and space reasons. I would probably have to grab my Xbox off a shelf somewhere, bring it to my monitor, unplug my PC and the monitor from the PC, Plug in the Xbox and then the monitor to the Xbox, all to play one game - a bit much in terms of effort no?
Not to mention at 2560*1440 the upscaling would be terrible.

Things like this aren't quite as easy as you'd make out. Even in the optimal scenario you provided, with cheap console and easy swapover of PC monitor to Xbox or W/E, you're still spending $70+ to play one game, that you already own, with less convenience as you still need to swap the monitor's input between the PC and console. I'm sorry if that sounds like a little much, 'cause its more than what I'd pay for a AAA game on release day. I could get 7+ Indie games for that money, or one that I already own + a paperweight. There are practicality issues with buying it again I'd assume for a lot of people.