The artist in thee

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unabomberman post=18.72805.785170 said:
How do I upload a picture?

I wanted to upload a cartoonized drawing I made so I could get some feedback. It was very minimal and lacking in detail but still, problem is that I'm stumped and I can't seem to figure how to.
Okay, lemme re-post it.

I'm going to assume you will use ImageShack [http://imageshack.us/].

Step 1 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img1.jpg]: Open Imageshack's main page, press 'Browse.' (Shown Underlined in Red)

Step 2 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img2.jpg]: The browse folder should open, find the file where your picture is saved. Select it, and press 'Open.'

Step 3 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img1.jpg]: Down at the bottom of the page (shown underlined in green), press 'Host It.'

Step 4 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img3.jpg]: This page should appear. If it does, then you've done everything correctly. If it does not, but the page that comes up is an advertisement, check your tabs and task bar. Imageshack redirects to advertisements. If that is not the case, return to Step 1.

Step 5 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img4.jpg]: Scroll down until you see the line labeled "Show image to friends", shown boxed in red. Highlight, and copy, the text in that line. (Right-Click > Copy OR Ctrl + C OR Apple + C (for Macs))

Step 6 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img5.jpg]: Put the link provided inside of image tags as shown. This should appear like so:
[IMG]http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg [http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg][/IMG]

[sup]Make a note that all forum tags such as [img][/img] can be all-uppercase or all-lowercase, but must remain uniform. The tag: [img]http://www.quotationspage.com/tag3.gif[/IMG] will not work because the beginning and end tags are different.[/sup]

mydogisblue post=18.72805.785165 said:
...I've drawn better...
Aside from the fact that that image is X-Box Huge, let's see. Your line work is very... I'm not sure. Scratchy. I feel like it could benefit from some fluidity. When you do your outlines, do you generally use long, smooth strokes, or short, scratchy lines to compose a larger line?

Frankly, the former is much better for inking, and usually makes the piece look that much cleaner. Otherwise, a very Sonic-the-Hedgehog-esque style, which is kinda neat, but not a lot to comment on, artistically. The arms look thin, the design is bland and uninteresting, and the foot on the left (his right foot) looks like it's on a different slope than the on on the right (his left). Also, huge hands, feet, and head, tiny everything-else. Also, the gun looks 2D.

It would help me a lot if I saw a piece you really, really worked hard on (shading et al) so I could figure out which parts need the most improvement. I can only note surface details with that.
 

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NewClassic post=18.72805.785220 said:
unabomberman post=18.72805.785170 said:
How do I upload a picture?

I wanted to upload a cartoonized drawing I made so I could get some feedback. It was very minimal and lacking in detail but still, problem is that I'm stumped and I can't seem to figure how to.
Okay, lemme re-post it.

I'm going to assume you will use ImageShack [http://imageshack.us/].

Step 1 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img1.jpg]: Open Imageshack's main page, press 'Browse.' (Shown Underlined in Red)

Step 2 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img2.jpg]: The browse folder should open, find the file where your picture is saved. Select it, and press 'Open.'

Step 3 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img1.jpg]: Down at the bottom of the page (shown underlined in green), press 'Host It.'

Step 4 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img3.jpg]: This page should appear. If it does, then you've done everything correctly. If it does not, but the page that comes up is an advertisement, check your tabs and task bar. Imageshack redirects to advertisements. If that is not the case, return to Step 1.

Step 5 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img4.jpg]: Scroll down until you see the line labeled "Show image to friends", shown boxed in red. Highlight, and copy, the text in that line. (Right-Click > Copy OR Ctrl + C OR Apple + C (for Macs))

Step 6 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img5.jpg]: Put the link provided inside of image tags as shown. This should appear like so:
[IMG]http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg [http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg][/IMG]

[sup]Make a note that all forum tags such as [img][/img] can be all-uppercase or all-lowercase, but must remain uniform. The tag: [img]http://www.quotationspage.com/tag3.gif[/IMG] will not work because the beginning and end tags are different.[/sup]

mydogisblue post=18.72805.785165 said:
...I've drawn better...
Aside from the fact that that image is X-Box Huge, let's see. Your line work is very... I'm not sure. Scratchy. I feel like it could benefit from some fluidity. When you do your outlines, do you generally use long, smooth strokes, or short, scratchy lines to compose a larger line?

Frankly, the former is much better for inking, and usually makes the piece look that much cleaner. Otherwise, a very Sonic-the-Hedgehog-esque style, which is kinda neat, but not a lot to comment on, artistically. The arms look thin, the design is bland and uninteresting, and the foot on the left (his right foot) looks like it's on a different slope than the on on the right (his left). Also, huge hands, feet, and head, tiny everything-else. Also, the gun looks 2D.

It would help me a lot if I saw a piece you really, really worked hard on (shading et al) so I could figure out which parts need the most improvement. I can only note surface details with that.

Thanks for the advice. Like I said, I've drawn better and I'm hoping to post a picture soon that I actually took the time to draw, which I should still have somewhere...unless I threw them away...

But yeah Sonic is very, very easy for me to draw, if I took more time it obviously would've looked much better, this one was just meant to humour my friends so it should come across as kind of crappy.
 

fulano

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Thanks NewClassic.

Image below

Got it done in a few minutes. It's very, very minimum cartoonized linework. Tell me what you think people.

Note: The hands are fugly, I know. Again, I was in a hurry and sketched it pretty quick.
 

Dr Pussymagnet

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Here NewClassic, here's a better one that I drew. It's Niko.

Anyways I don't have a friggin' scanner or whatever, so I just took a picture of it with my camera so please just excuse how bad it kind of came out. Believe me it looks ALOT better if you saw it in person.
 

NewClassic_v1legacy

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mydogisblue post=18.72805.785390 said:

Here NewClassic, here's a better one that I drew. It's Niko.

Anyways I don't have a friggin' scanner or whatever, so I just took a picture of it with my camera so please just excuse how bad it kind of came out. Believe me it looks ALOT better if you saw it in person.
The attention to detail is nice, especially where the jacket and gloves are concerned. The face and anatomy, on the other hand, need some work, although those are always hard. My best advise is to always look at what you're drawing.

The thing about people is we have pre-conceived notions about what something is. If it looks like something, then it probably is. In our minds, they become symbols. The problem is when translating into artwork, we draw symbols. Instead of doing that, draw what you see, and only what you see. Pretend it's something completely foreign, and you're entirely unfamiliar with it. Every detail, every shadow and highlight, form and shape, is new and alien. Look to see exactly how to represent it. Don't draw what you think you see, draw what you see.

Hope that made sense. Hope even more that it helped. Oh, and don't be afraid to get the hair more definition, it will really fix some of the more distracting errors of the artwork itself.
 

ThaBenMan

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Has anybody looked at my stuff? :( The link is back on pg. 2... it's cool, though. It sucks.
 

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TheNecroswanson post=18.72805.783517 said:
Alliecat post=18.72805.783451 said:
For other photoshop users: Be warned! Filters aren't that cool. They are a trap!
Don't know what you mean. This is my fourth image using photoshop's filters and it's worked fine for me so far. I wanted the image to look like a comicesque night scene. It had a fully set up background and everything. I'm pleased with how they worked to create light, shadow, and simulate the visibility of objects in darkness with a light source. Though the light source was a little strong but that was my errror.

Also, I checked out your, I think it was yours, DA, and though I liked it, it fealt too contemporary.
Photoshop filters canbe nice- if you adjust them, and use them sparingly. Using them a lot or as a main part of your picture just shouts out -noob-. (in my opinion, of course)
Contemporary? Can you explain a bit what you mean by that?
 

Enskie

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I'm really new to this ok, how do I use the spoiler thing? Also, how do you post pictures without linking to Photobucket etc?
 

NewClassic_v1legacy

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Enskie post=18.72805.785660 said:
I'm really new to this ok, how do I use the spoiler thing? Also, how do you post pictures without linking to Photobucket etc?
For the complete guide:
I'm going to assume you will use ImageShack [http://imageshack.us/].

Step 1 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img1.jpg]: Open Imageshack's main page, press 'Browse.' (Shown Underlined in Red)

Step 2 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img2.jpg]: The browse folder should open, find the file where your picture is saved. Select it, and press 'Open.'

Step 3 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img1.jpg]: Down at the bottom of the page (shown underlined in green), press 'Host It.'

Step 4 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img3.jpg]: This page should appear. If it does, then you've done everything correctly. If it does not, but the page that comes up is an advertisement, check your tabs and task bar. Imageshack redirects to advertisements. If that is not the case, return to Step 1.

Step 5 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img4.jpg]: Scroll down until you see the line labeled "Show image to friends", shown boxed in red. Highlight, and copy, the text in that line. (Right-Click > Copy OR Ctrl + C OR Apple + C (for Macs))

Step 6 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img5.jpg]: Put the link provided inside of image tags as shown. This should appear like so:
[IMG]http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg [http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg][/IMG]

[sup]Make a note that all forum tags such as [img][/img] can be all-uppercase or all-lowercase, but must remain uniform. The tag: [img]http://www.quotationspage.com/tag3.gif[/IMG] will not work because the beginning and end tags are different.[/sup]

For the short guide:
If you have the direct URL for the image, the it's just pasting it between image tags. For example:
[IMG]http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg[/IMG]

For spoiler tags, it's like images, just with "spoiler" for example:
[spoiler]blah blah[/spoiler] will yield:
blah blah

To have text, include it after the word but still in the tag, like so:
[spoiler=Blah blah before click]Blah blah after click[/spoiler] will yield:
Blah blah after click

Hope that helps.
 

Enskie

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NewClassic post=18.72805.785667 said:
Enskie post=18.72805.785660 said:
I'm really new to this ok, how do I use the spoiler thing? Also, how do you post pictures without linking to Photobucket etc?
For the complete guide:
I'm going to assume you will use ImageShack [http://imageshack.us/].

Step 1 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img1.jpg]: Open Imageshack's main page, press 'Browse.' (Shown Underlined in Red)

Step 2 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img2.jpg]: The browse folder should open, find the file where your picture is saved. Select it, and press 'Open.'

Step 3 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img1.jpg]: Down at the bottom of the page (shown underlined in green), press 'Host It.'

Step 4 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img3.jpg]: This page should appear. If it does, then you've done everything correctly. If it does not, but the page that comes up is an advertisement, check your tabs and task bar. Imageshack redirects to advertisements. If that is not the case, return to Step 1.

Step 5 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img4.jpg]: Scroll down until you see the line labeled "Show image to friends", shown boxed in red. Highlight, and copy, the text in that line. (Right-Click > Copy OR Ctrl + C OR Apple + C (for Macs))

Step 6 [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/Silly/lolwut/img5.jpg]: Put the link provided inside of image tags as shown. This should appear like so:
[IMG]http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg [http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg][/IMG]

[sup]Make a note that all forum tags such as [img][/img] can be all-uppercase or all-lowercase, but must remain uniform. The tag: [img]http://www.quotationspage.com/tag3.gif[/IMG] will not work because the beginning and end tags are different.[/sup]

For the short guide:
If you have the direct URL for the image, the it's just pasting it between image tags. For example:
[IMG]http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg[/IMG]

For spoiler tags, it's like images, just with "spoiler" for example:
[spoiler]blah blah[/spoiler] will yield:
blah blah

To have text, include it after the word but still in the tag, like so:
[spoiler=Blah blah before click]Blah blah after click[/spoiler] will yield:
Blah blah after click

Hope that helps.
Thank you, I was hitting F5 every few seconds, waiting for somebody to respond, I'm kinda hyped up on caffeine right now, so yeah, thank you again, very much appreciated.
 

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ThaBenMan post=18.72805.785515 said:
Has anybody looked at my stuff? :( The link is back on pg. 2... it's cool, though. It sucks.
I don't think anyone looked at mine either. They were bad but at least the last one was ok. I think.
 

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the monopoly guy post=18.72805.785691 said:
ThaBenMan post=18.72805.785515 said:
Has anybody looked at my stuff? :( The link is back on pg. 2... it's cool, though. It sucks.
I don't think anyone looked at mine either. They were bad but at least the last one was ok. I think.
I'm more worried about the fact that half of my stuff is unfinished. But that's my fault.
 

Enskie

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Now that NewClassic has very kindly provided me with the knowledge required to upload images, I am free to do so.

 

NewClassic_v1legacy

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Time for more of NewClassic being pretentious full of himself helpful?

To RAKtheUndead
As I suggested, you very clearly lack the practice to be showing the level of detail you're aiming for. As such, you really should practice the smaller, easier stuff before going onto concept art and the like. Especially when dealing with technology, considering how very detail oriented they are. Especially in concept-format you've drawn.

To practice, I'd say start by drawing machinery you can look at. Sit down in front of something, like a little robo-spider [http://cell18189.tripod.com/robots/Pictures/SpiderRobot.jpg] and draw it exactly as you see it. Look very carefully as what connects where, how it connects, and why it connects. When you come to understand the machinery from an artistic standpoint, then you can really get the groundwork for the more complicated stuff. Start small, it's always the best place to start.

To The Monopoly Guy
Your drawing was interesting, but that's not much else to say on it. It's foreground-intensive, it lacks shading, and doesn't have a lot of definition to it. The fact that you have to label it means you're not expressing the image, artistically, that you're trying to. The best way to fix this is probably to reference everything. Seriously, everything.

To ThaBenMan
You angular line-work reminds me quite a bit of Samurai Jack. I like the simplicity and still the attention to detail. The only thing I can suggest is practice more on shading, as well as referencing humans (although, oddly, only those facing the point of view. The 3/4 folks are fine). I absolutely love the fish people. Seriously, they're awesome.

That's it for me, more to come later after I eat.
 

ThaBenMan

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the monopoly guy post=18.72805.785691 said:
ThaBenMan post=18.72805.785515 said:
Has anybody looked at my stuff? :( The link is back on pg. 2... it's cool, though. It sucks.
I don't think anyone looked at mine either. They were bad but at least the last one was ok. I think.
Yeah, the dinosaur skull is pretty sweet. And I like the stumpy thing, it's funny, a clever idea.

And NewClassic, thank you for the feedback. I agree with your suggestions for improvement. I very rarely work with any sort of reference, so some things are bound to be off. And I just plain don't like shading XD I wish I could show you some stuff from classes where I was forced to shade and draw from life (and the stuff in that link is over 6 yrs old, I like to think I've improved quite a lot).
I like your coffee shop pic, reminds me of this time I had to draw the interior of the student union for class once.

And Enskie, very nice stuff there! I especially love the drawing of the warrior. And your photoshop stuff is very cool, that's the sort of stuff I'm ignorant of and would love to learn about.
 

meatloaf231

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NewClassic post=18.72805.785755 said:
Time for more of NewClassic being pretentious full of himself helpful?
I smell an "I bet he's Cockney" situation a-brewing...
 

Enskie

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Ok, I also did some poetry a while back (ok, I still dabble in it).

Endeavour? Whatever
You think that you?re so clever

I?d love to live another day
But I can?t live my life this way

I love you, so it?s your way
should I go or should I stay

I?ll not wait, until my dying days
I?ll go with a bang into the evening rays

** Chorus **
Endeavour? Whatever
You think that you?re so clever
Just tell me, if so clever
Why bother to endeavour

Endeavour? Whatever
You think that you?re so clever
Just tell me, if so clever
Why bother to endeavour
** Chorus **

If I died
Would you cry

even let out a sigh
And if so, then why

I wouldn?t bother to try
So why would you bother to lie

** Chorus **
Endeavour? Whatever
You think that you?re so clever
Just tell me, if so clever
Why bother to endeavour

Endeavour? Whatever
You think that you?re so clever
Just tell me, if so clever
Why bother to endeavour
** Chorus **

Hear No Evil

All I can do is sit here
Another day, another call
All these sighs, all these lies
And listen to it all

** Chorus **
And I never wanted to know
All these stories I hear
But they don?t know I?m listening
When they speak without fear
** Chorus **

Joe is one the regulars
I know his story by heart
It?s the same one he tells everyday
Because he?s made lying his art

And he thinks that she?ll never guess
?Cause his wife pretends she doesn?t know
So everyday she listens to the lies
?Cause she?s afraid and she can?t let him go

** Chorus **
And I never wanted to know
All these stories I hear
But they don?t know I?m listening
When they speak without fear
** Chorus **

And I listen to Danny talk to no one
Because he just can?t make the call
Even though she loves him so dearly
But he?s afraid that he?ll ruin it all

And everyday he just sits at the payphone
But he never quite makes it to the dial
I think one day I?ll do it for him
And he?ll be happy for my use of guile

** Chorus **
And I never wanted to know
All these stories I hear
But they don?t know I?m listening
When they speak without fear
** Chorus **

And nobody knows...
Nobody knows...
Nobody knows...
About me...

Don?t you know?
Don?t you know?
Don?t you know ?

Don?t you know how pretty she is?
With tears of razor blades
Her reflection never fades

Isn?t she just like a picture?
Smiling daggers at you
With bleeding eyes of blue

And she?s just so perfect
She?s got suicide notes for
The day that she?s no more

** Chorus **
And don?t you know?
Just what you?ve done?
Lost the match but said you won

And don?t you know?
Just how it goes?
Write a play but no one shows
** Chorus **

You?re singing bliss
And all the while
You?re dying with a smile

You?ve signed for a loss
But won?t sign for her
It?s a day to remember

And now you see her face
Those bleeding blues
And razor truths

** Chorus **
And don?t you know?
Just what you?ve done?
Lost the match but said you won

And don?t you know?
Just how it goes?
Write a play but no one shows
** Chorus **

The final day has died
In your arms, a suicide
Many thanks to cyanide

And serenity comes easy
To those who died in pain
Or spent a life in vain

One two three, here we go now
One two three, here we go now
One two three, here we go now

We?re alone in the crowd
Shout out but ain?t so loud
What are we gonna do

Psyche! It?s all a delusion
Another violent illusion
Screaming down Hell?s highway

Fear, the power of Eden
?Cause we?re still believin?
That we?ll make it someday

** Chorus **
We?re snorting coke, drinking wine
Let?s do it again just one more time
So we?ll forget about our sins

Let?s go shoot up, pop a pill
Whatever gets a thrill
So we?ll forget about life
** Chorus **

Heaven, it?s just a step away
But we didn?t make it, there today
And every step we take, we fall down

We?re just so deluded
Our minds are concluded
Think we know every-fuckin?-thing

I?m speeding down
The highway to the town
Of sinners, of the lost and damned

We live a lie
Don?t even try
To think

** Chorus **
We?re snorting coke, drinking wine
Let?s do it again just one more time
So we?ll forget about our sins

Let?s go shoot up, pop a pill
Whatever gets a thrill
So we?ll forget about our lives
** Chorus **

I?m out of my mind
Going blind
But fuck it, let?s do it again

Is it all a dream
Nothing?s what it seems
But maybe that?s just me

I don?t know what I?d do
Yeah, I don?t know what I?d do
If I couldn?t be near you
Couldn?t be near you...

I wish I could kiss away your fears
And I wish I were your tears
Born in your eyes, die on your lips
Wrapped around your fingertips

And it?s never what it seems
Just a figment of my dreams
But you?ve always been so kind
Now I can?t remove you from my mind

** Chorus **
I need to know for once
I need to know for sure
I have to know for me
I have to know for all

It?s not a choice I want to make
It?s not a choice I want to take
But there?s nothing else to say
But there is no other way
** Chorus **

I?ve never once had you
Lord help me, that much is true
But you?ve always had me
Though you just can?t see

But that?s the way it needs to stay
That way, day after day
Because if you ever knew
Then I couldn?t be true

One more lie would pass these lips
So that I wouldn?t have to take the hits
Since I?ve never played the leader
Always been the quiet little reader

** Chorus **
I need to know for once
I need to know for sure
I have to know for me
I have to know for all

It?s not a choice I want to make
It?s not a choice I want to take
But there?s nothing else to say
But there is no other way
** Chorus **

I?m fading now, since you forget
That I am here, but no regret
Because I?m still waiting
I?m still anticipating

That day when you wake up
I?m not asking for a breakup
Just to say to your face
Something that?s not in my place

But I can?t hold my tongue for long
Though I know that I am wrong
It?s not my place to say ?I love you?
But nothing else would be true

** Chorus **
I need to know for once
I need to know for sure
I have to know for me
I have to know for all

It?s not a choice I want to make
It?s not a choice I want to take
But there?s nothing else to say
But there is no other way
** Chorus **

I wish that I believed in us
But I?ve never seen the walrus
That they sung about a few years ago
So I knew I?d never know

What we could have been
If only you had seen...
If only you had seen...

We?re cynical and critical
all we know is what we?re told
The hypocrisy of democracy
And we think we?re so bold

We?re generation x
Also called the walking dead
In an education rebellion
An army of poets, so well read

It?s a war on peace
Paranoia, so absurd
The truth is silent now
People censoring our every word

** Chorus **
Depression sessions
For troubled youths
Full of unsaid words
With hidden truths

It?s paranoia for the disturbed
The disturbia of the world
** Chorus **

All the faceless companies
A thousand accusations hurled

** Chorus **
Depression sessions
For troubled youths
Full of unsaid words
With hidden truths

It?s paranoia for the disturbed
The disturbia of the world
** Chorus **

All the faceless companies
A thousand accusations hurled

The death of terror
It?s just a theoretical
Invade Iran for oil
So far it?s just hypothetical?

We see all
With blind eyes
Whilst children starve
And politicians lie

It?s all plain to see
But we just let it be

The Unborn

Ever dying
Ever crying
Bleeding out our souls

We?re the unborn
We?re so forlorn
Never shall we die

We?ve never been alive
Yet we struggle to survive
We are the unborn

We?re selling out the sun
And now we?re on the run
We won?t pay for our crimes

** Chorus **
We are ever dying
Ever crying
Bleeding out our souls

We can?t hold on anymore
Hearts bleeding and raw
All for none and none for all
** Chorus **

How much longer
How much wronger
Will this world survive

We can?t hold on
So it?s so long
Goodbye from the unborn

We?re fighting for a cause
Supported by unjust laws
Why do we bother anymore

We?re fading away
We?re going astray
Just like the unborn

** Chorus **
We are ever dying
Ever crying
Bleeding out our souls

We can?t hold on anymore
Hearts bleeding and raw
All for none and none for all
** Chorus **

They are the unborn
They are so forlorn
We are the unborn

I?ve suffered a thousand sins
Experienced unimaginable things
In the name of a God who wasn?t there

I?m heading forwards into the night
Running, running from the light
From a God who wasn?t there

I cried a million tears
Suffered a million fears
For a God who didn?t care

** Chorus **
I cried and lied, for Him
I tried and died, for Him
And in the end He didn?t care

Because He?s the God who wasn?t there

For him, a million times
For just a single sign
From the God who didn?t care

Because my God was never there
** Chorus **

In the end it all went up in flames
The children died in fire and pain
And through it all He watched us die

The mothers cried and fathers raged
Their sorrow and grief was not assuaged
Because their God had made them cry

The preachers cried ?Thy will be done!?
And the fools did follow ?Thy will be done!?
Following their priests into the flames

** Chorus **
I cried and lied, for Him
I tried and died, for Him
And in the end He didn?t care

Because He?s the God who wasn?t there

For him, a million times
For just a single sign
From the God who didn?t care

Because my God was never there
** Chorus **


When it came to end it all
God thought us so small
That he tossed us away

But we?ve never been alive
We?ve just been paralysed
Blindfolded and left for damned

When your landlord is screaming
?Cause you ain?t paid your bills
Since you?re too busy dreaming
And out seeking thrills

And your best friends have left you
?Cause you?re always stoned
And there?s nothing you can do
When they repossess all that you owned

And there?s no point in crying
?Cause nobody cares
And when you feel like dying
But you just wouldn?t dare

And you?ve had a few drinks
?Cause you?re feeling like shit
And the regulars are sharing a wink
?Cause they know all about it

And the bartender knows
?Cause he?s seen it before
So he cuts you off
And you?re thrown out the door

And you?re asleep in the gutter
?Cause you don?t care about life
And the passers-by mutter
?Cause you used to have a wife

And the ambulance arrives
?Cause you had too much booze
Since paramedics save lives
Even ones with nothing to lose

And your friends come to see you
?Cause they?re supposed to
But there?s nothing to say
And no reason to delay

And when it comes to decide
?Cause there?s no better time
A few pills of Cyanide
Washed down with wine

A bottle of rum sitting there
Where you should have been
But in the end I don?t care

?Cause the rum?s a better friend
Always gonna be there
Till I drink it to its end

Now the questions come pounding
Knocking down the doors
Their screams resounding

Why aren?t you here
It?s because you?re with him
And now I?m with a beer

** Chorus **
You left me standing in the dust
In the middle of nowheresville
And now my liver?s gone to rust

But sad songs just don?t fit
And self pity is for the weak
Another beer, another cigarette is lit
** Chorus **

So I?ll start to self implode
Detonating a nuclear bomb
Watching my brain explode

Would you like to inherit my heart
I?ve got no use for it
Another piece of broken art

So he?s rich and cool and nice and sweet
He?s everything you ever wanted
He?s also dead, if we ever meet

Now I?m tired of all the lies
Wasting my time on you
With all these failed tries

** Chorus **
You left me standing in the dust
In the middle of nowheresville
And now my liver?s gone to rust

But sad songs just don?t fit
And self pity is for the weak
Another beer, another cigarette is lit
** Chorus **

I?m going nowhere fast just
Sitting on the road
Victim of your interminable lust

I love the way
People talk about today
When there?s nothing to say
Tomorrow?s just another day

Looking forward forever
There?s no you and me together
But honestly, whatever

I?ll suicide, with cyanide
Death from your inflated pride
Even though I was on your side

** Chorus **
Send up more hoorays
I?ll just send you away
And tomorrow?s just another day

The future?s oh so bleak
A sky of gray and you the streak
A streak of the lies, you reek
** Chorus **

So let yourself fall away
No more time for you to stay
Flattened grass where once we lay

If today?s the day to die
Then I won?t bother to try
I?ll just sit inside and cry
And of course I?ll wonder why

Why do we bother anymore
Forgetting of course, the law
Why bother with our aches and sores


** Chorus **
Send up more hoorays
I?ll just send you away
And tomorrow?s just another day

The future?s oh so bleak
A sky of gray and you the streak
A streak of the lies, you reek
** Chorus **

Why fight for a reason
Just fight in any season
Fling away your precious reason

You?re not here today
Haven?t been here for me to say
I shouldn?t have been that way

And tomorrow?s just another day

So where do I go from here?
How do I face my fears?
I keep thinking of what I know
But I don?t know where to go

So how do I know what?s real?
How do I know what to feel?
I?ve never had to fight
Never had to defend my rights

But I?ll never give in to them
And there?s a message I?d like to send

**Chorus**
My bones will break and turn to dust
My heart will fade and begin to rust
But so long as I?ve got breath in my lungs
I?ll know I?ve won
**Chorus**

When do you know you?re done?
When you?re lying under the desert sun
When do you know you?re over?
When you feel drunk but you?re still sober

How does it feel to lie?
How does it feel to die?
These are the things I know
But I don?t know where to go

But I?ll never give in to them
And there?s a message I?d like to send

**Chorus**
My bones will break and turn to dust
My heart will fade and begin to rust
But so long as I?ve got breath in my lungs
I?ll know I?ve won
**Chorus**

Did you ever think to say
Who took our dreams away?
I?ve often asked the bureaucrats
Who told me to go back home and shut my trap

Decadence and eloquence
And diamond rings mean nothing
We used all the excuses in the books
Now we?ve got to think of something

Dead people, they tell no lies
So jot down all the names you think of
Hit that button next to you
Send me over the edge I?m on the brink of

I subscribe to paralyse
these lies we?re being told
You gotta know when to place a bet
And better yet know when to fold

**Chorus**
We?re decadent and eloquent
With all our morals broke and bent
Crying from our birth to death
Loving life yet dream of rest

We?re decadent and eloquent
With all our morals broke and bent
Crying from our birth to death
Loving life yet dream of rest
**Chorus**

We demand the truth
Yet love their lies
Let them sing to us
A poisoned lullaby

A polished speech
About a soldier?s death
They?ll meet the press
Dressed in their best

Drugs for our memory
Screw around our brains
Drugs to keep us calm
Forget our aches and pains

**Chorus**
We?re decadent and eloquent
With all our morals broke and bent
Crying from our birth to death
Loving life yet dream of rest

We?re decadent and eloquent
With all our morals broke and bent
Crying from our birth to death
Loving life yet dream of rest
**Chorus**

Who
Are you
And why
Do you weep alone?

Do I
Defy
Your heart
It fits me like a glove

This is what we say
When someone fades away
They?re just another
Broken dreamer

Sing along to the drums
Going off, exploding like the guns
In a mind game of real lies
Can?t decipher false from fiction

** Chorus **
This is just the way
This is the way to play
A game of truth and lies
Which is which and who decides

So choose your side
Strap up for the ride
Fight to find another way
Or another game to play
** Chorus **

Bombs away and away we go
Lights out, flicker on for the show
Detached from nothing at all
Connected to everything about you

Peace found only damnation
Serenity finds death in salvation
Because nothing makes sense
Happiness is not what you expect

Cheap party tricks to amuse
Hallucinations to confuse
A mind of aggression
That refuses to die

Broken bones and sing-a-longs
Sticks and stones with pity songs
As you lie on the floor
But it ain?t for attention

** Chorus **
This is just the way
This is the way to play
A game of truth and lies
Which is which and who decides

So choose your side
Strap up for the ride
Fight to find another way
Or another game to play
** Chorus **

Life and death reign over our minds
But in the end it?s life that binds
Us to our petty little lives here
As we plod along to sound of the drums

Freaks of nature taking place
In a species born to race
As we fight to be stronger
And live longer, so we die weaker

All the times I thought of you
There was nothing I could do
No instant cure for your disease
Somebody help me, help me please

All those nights I spent awake
Waiting for every breath you?d take
I don?t know why I?ve never thought
About the reasons that we fought

** Chorus **
I never asked about the lies
Though I saw them in your eyes
And never wondered why you left
Just left me like all the rest

You showed your selfishness, without
A single trace of guilt or doubt
And through it all you kept saying
I?ll never leave you, I?m staying
** Chorus **

Every tear I saw you shed
Were they real or in my head?
You said I?d never leave your mind
Your constant lies have left me blind

How did I never think to ask
Who was it behind your mask
I always assumed that it was you
But now I know that is not true

** Chorus **
I never asked about the lies
Though I saw them in your eyes
And never wondered why you left
Just left me like all the rest

You showed your selfishness, without
A single trace of guilt or doubt
And through it all you kept saying
I?ll never leave you, I?m staying
** Chorus **

I know right now it sounds absurd
And goodbye is just a word
But nonetheless I?ll say goodbye
Have a nice life, don?t forget to die


Those are about 1/8th of the songs, and there's at least 100+ poems (other than songs)in assorted formats that I haven't put up here. If you want the rest, then they can be found here: http://enskie.deviantart.com/.
 

zen5887

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[/spoiler] My first (good) abstract

My internet is being gay atm so I'll put some other stuff up when I get home

Sorry about the crap quality.. Its a jpeg *shudder*
 

the monopoly guy

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NewClassic post=18.72805.785755 said:
To The Monopoly Guy
Your drawing was interesting, but that's not much else to say on it. It's foreground-intensive, it lacks shading, and doesn't have a lot of definition to it. The fact that you have to label it means you're not expressing the image, artistically, that you're trying to. The best way to fix this is probably to reference everything. Seriously, everything.
*ahem*
What? I don't get the labeling thing and the referenceing.
Also, it only took me about five minutes I used notebook paper, just a quick sketch.