Y'know, is it just me, or is all of this getting just a little old? Another non Halo fan ranting about Halo, frankly it's been done to death, although the way Bob goes into the various backwards undertones that Halo inadvertently perpetuates, but I can't help notice he still devoted a good minute or so to just complain about how he doesn't like the game. Honestly, it's been bagged out, complained about, met with a lot of criticism (sometimes rightly so), but in the end, it's been done to death, pick a new target Escapist, when people talk about beating a dead horse, this is what they mean, Halo is your dead horse Escapist, bury it and be done.
The Big Picture: Combat Evolved?
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They most certainly did want funky looking creatures, they made funky looking creatures.Bobic said:
They put in the idea that the enemy is bad. A perfectly reasonable assumption. The thing is, while the enemy is varied and different, your troops show about as much variations as apples do: You get ones in slightly different colours, sizes and flavours, but it's just one part of the fruit salad.
Bungie are accidentally putting something out that says only apples are good, and pineapples suck, especially when you add oranges, grapes, passionfruit and other things in a derailed variety metaphor.
Of course they didn't mean to do that, it's not overt, there's a lot of other stuff in the game too,[footnote]Good stuff mind you, if a little same-y[/footnote] and you have to do some heavy reading between the lines with a few jumps of logic left out in the sun too long, but you can still get to the conclusion that Bungie made anti-variety propaganda when trying to make a fun game.
[sub]I'm not so sure why I'm using so many metaphors, but my point is that it isn't doing anything to us, you can just make that inference of that, and Bungie didn't mean to.[/sub]
Um... im not a Halo Fanboy, heck I hardly even bothered with Reach, I was willing to give up on it and played the others for the Gamerscore... But wasn't the sniper in Noble team middle eastern ish?
Other than that its interesting too see that the escapist will pay for someone to get preachy about gaming culture... not that we haven't seen that before.
Other than that its interesting too see that the escapist will pay for someone to get preachy about gaming culture... not that we haven't seen that before.
So let me get this strait. You dabbled in the first Halo game, and were convinced to play the new one Halo Reach, and from that you are going to make a all encompassing review of the whole universe, and the underlining story? Humm mind if I ask you to provide me with a name of a book, or movie that you enjoy the story in? Then I'll write a review based on reading the dustjacket, or watching the trailer. Because that is the extent of what you have done with the story in the Halo universe. It is far from original, but fascist? The problem with the review is you are reviewing something you have very little knowledge on. Hate, and racism are founded on ignorance. And what is ignorance, but blind judgment of what you don't understand.MovieBob said:
If you don't like Halo fine. I can understand that very well. I can respect that, because the game isn't everyone's cup of tea. But what you said in your review is so far off the mark as to be grossly wrong. You don't have a understanding of what is happening in the story arch, and are far off the mark about the humans, and covenant as well. Research what you going to soap box about.
Why am I being critical of a game review? Because as you said this is going to be your soap box video. If you can't be bothered to understand what you are talking about when talking about a game, then will you have the time to do the same, in the future when you cover important topics that matter. Remember this may be a op-ed piece, but allot of people watch. It's one thing to give an opinion, it is another to give an opinion based off incorrect facts. We have enough talking heads these days on the big news stations, I was hoping that people like you would be smarter about their op-ed pieces, then the stuffed shirts on tv.
There was something wrong with E.t.t.M?SnootyEnglishman said:
I really liked it. What didn't you like about it? (geniunely interseted)
I'm sorry but I think Movie Bob needs to do a little more research for future videos because he openly admitted he hadn't played Halo 2 or 3. The games in which the humans team up with the elites for the sake of a common goal. I also don't like how he tries to make it seem the humans are the ones bullying the covenant around when the games make it clear that the covenant are a genicidal group bent on the destruction of the universe. I'd say that would be enough to start a war with.
Another thing that bugged me was that he wanted to point out how the covenant was so rich and diverse while the humans were only one race. Well you know how the covenant got all those races to agree with them? They murdered and destroyed the various races until they were forced to join. One of the reasons the covenant met all those races in the first place was that they beat the humans in the space race by thousands of years. If the humans had discovered another race out in the galaxy, they would have jumped at the idea to ally with them.
(I really hope I don't come across as some diehard Halo fanboy)
I respect Movie Bob for the work he puts into his videos, I really do, but I just think he should do a little more research before writing off a game series like Halo as having racist undertones.
Another thing that bugged me was that he wanted to point out how the covenant was so rich and diverse while the humans were only one race. Well you know how the covenant got all those races to agree with them? They murdered and destroyed the various races until they were forced to join. One of the reasons the covenant met all those races in the first place was that they beat the humans in the space race by thousands of years. If the humans had discovered another race out in the galaxy, they would have jumped at the idea to ally with them.
(I really hope I don't come across as some diehard Halo fanboy)
I respect Movie Bob for the work he puts into his videos, I really do, but I just think he should do a little more research before writing off a game series like Halo as having racist undertones.
MEANWHILE... INSIDE THE BUNGIE HQ:Okysho said:
Developer 1: Huh... Some guy's saying we're racist.
Developer 2: What?!
Dev 1: Apparently the blue eyes in the Halo Reach Live Action trailer prove it.
Dev 2: Erm... What?
Dev 1: Yeah... We were promoting Aryan symbolism, apparently.
Dev 2: We... What the...
Dev 1: Yeah.
Dev 2: Why the fuck would he think that?
Dev 1: I dunno... He doesn't like Halo, apparently.
Dev 2: We were SUPPOSED to know that a vague effect like that could be loosely interpreted as racist by some guy who clearly is just finding reasons to attack us?!
Dev 1: Apparently.
Dev 2: ...So the guy thinks that we should have been consciously thinking "is this racist" all along, despite it being the last thing on ANY dev team's mind? Hell, JRPGs include crude stereotypes all the time, yet they're never accused of racism!
Dev 1: Uhuh...
Dev 2: Damn...
**Scene ends with both men beginning work on "BABY FUCKER 4: I'M GONNA FUCK YOU UP WITH THE PELVIS I PULLED OUTTA SOME ARAB. AND THEN I'M GONNA STUFF SOME KFC IN YA' FACE."**
I think most people play Halo for the multiplayer element, to be honest. Great video Bob! Glad to see you're getting more airtime. Hope it doesn't interfere with your column though! Go get 'em, Tiger!
I can answer this for ya. I don't know if you have noticed this, but everyone one of those guys (and women) you mentioned are in the game. Srg. Johnon is the only real main character, plus Miranda Keyes. Other marines seen through out all games (besides halo wars) have different ethnicities, backgrounds, sex etc etc.Okysho said:
The spartan point is mute really, as there weren't "straight" spartans either. After the arguementation process, they had a serverly reduced sex drive. Plus, their main goal was proctecting humanity. Anything else was "second", if they lived that long anyway (which I think 5 or so spartan IIs did)
And I can tell you because I HAVE seen all of them.
And asexual? These guys aren't ameibas... They only "asexual" ones (I use that term lightly) would be the hunters cause they are a collection of worms. The rest of the races have females, but are rarely seen, as again these guys are religous up the ass, and the battlefield is not the area for women (in their eyes) However, if I recall, there was some stuff about women in the craft of making parts, ships, etc. However, that was from tidbits of Halo Wars, which I don't consider canon.
So yah, if you have anything to comment on don't hesitate to ask.
Ok, my view:
You control Master Chief, whose face is never revealed.
You are helped by an outfit of Covenant warriors, led by the Arbiter. (I think? in 3?)
There's some rather important black guy in there, who's apparently kind of a memetic badass. Look up some quotes from him. (I only played Halo: Combat Evolved and the second game, and that was a long time ago
)
Your other friend is a fucking AI.
The guys leading the Covenant are acitvely attempting to blow up the entire fucking universe.
Ninja killer ultimate space zombies of doom are involved.
... I don't get the part about racism?
You control Master Chief, whose face is never revealed.
You are helped by an outfit of Covenant warriors, led by the Arbiter. (I think? in 3?)
There's some rather important black guy in there, who's apparently kind of a memetic badass. Look up some quotes from him. (I only played Halo: Combat Evolved and the second game, and that was a long time ago
)Your other friend is a fucking AI.
The guys leading the Covenant are acitvely attempting to blow up the entire fucking universe.
Ninja killer ultimate space zombies of doom are involved.
... I don't get the part about racism?
O_O....Holy hell!! Nice analysis. I mean I knew the Covenant were religious nuts, but THIS POST HERE!!sagacious said:
Good job!