You could probably make an episode about Mario continuity and theories as to why they can do certain things. You blew my mind with that.
The Big Picture: Continuity Wars
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"You know what? Never mind," is the attitude I have towards continuity. All I care about regarding that is "Is this character roughly the same as before?" And even that doesn't matter because what is clearly sequential is sequential, and, if not clearly sequential, the sequence or continuity doesn't really matter.
There's Mario in Subcon, and there's Mario in a replica of the real world, and there's Mario in the Super Mario series, and there's Mario in the Paper Mario series, etc... Whatever.
There's Mario in Subcon, and there's Mario in a replica of the real world, and there's Mario in the Super Mario series, and there's Mario in the Paper Mario series, etc... Whatever.
Honestly yes. I didn't care too much about the star wars or the marvel talk but when he got into mario I was all ears. lolMalconvoker said:
There's a lot to be said for a clean continuity. Mirrors of the Wheel are fine, you really do need a solid timeline to fall back on. There's a fair amount of mess in the EU, but some real gems too. By all means plow over thinks like the black fleet crisis, but allow some story lines to continue exist (IE. just don't come out and contradict them), a movie of those events is unnecessary. Some shout outs to the current EU would be good too. Mention things like Kyle Katarn, Centerpoint Station, Dathomir, and Myrkr I'll be happy.
That said, if they start the moves off with Han or Luke or Leia married to some random newly created character, that's not going to go over well. In fact, calling it now, if one of them is married or going out with a character new to that movie, that character WILL die at some point for drama purpose.
But if there is any way to erase the Force Unleashed 1 and 2 from existence, I would appreciate it.
That said, if they start the moves off with Han or Luke or Leia married to some random newly created character, that's not going to go over well. In fact, calling it now, if one of them is married or going out with a character new to that movie, that character WILL die at some point for drama purpose.
But if there is any way to erase the Force Unleashed 1 and 2 from existence, I would appreciate it.
Obligatory snipe at Star Wars EU being nothing more than fanfiction, followed by spiel about Mario bullshit that consumes half the episode. Yep, I'm still watching Moviebob, and he still has nothing interesting to say without annoying me.
Do I want the Sequel Trilogy to be an adaptation of EU stories? No, that's silly. I want a new story, not a rehash of one I could buy from Del Rey. On the other hand, I also believe it would be pretty bad to ride roughshod over the entire existence of the EU. Sure, it isn't all award winning literature, but there is some good stuff in there, and I would hate for the new trilogy to pretty much say that none of the characters in those stories exist at all.
Incidentally, the timing of these movies is eerily in sync with the current progression of the post-RotJ EU fiction. The Fate of the Jedi series ends up at about 40 years after the Emperor takes his swan dive into a reactor core(or whatever that was), and by the time Ep VII comes out it will have been about 32 years since RotJ hit theaters. If Ep VII took place a couple years after that storyline you would have a Skywalker just coming out his teens, a Solo on the Jedi Council, and another Solo preteen on whom the balance of the Force may turn. Not to mention the Empire has just had its first general election, there are at least two different sects of Sith out there somewhere, and the Galactic Alliance(formerly the New Republic) is reeling from a catastrophe on Coruscant.
I could think of several possible stories one could tell with that cast and setting.
Incidentally, the timing of these movies is eerily in sync with the current progression of the post-RotJ EU fiction. The Fate of the Jedi series ends up at about 40 years after the Emperor takes his swan dive into a reactor core(or whatever that was), and by the time Ep VII comes out it will have been about 32 years since RotJ hit theaters. If Ep VII took place a couple years after that storyline you would have a Skywalker just coming out his teens, a Solo on the Jedi Council, and another Solo preteen on whom the balance of the Force may turn. Not to mention the Empire has just had its first general election, there are at least two different sects of Sith out there somewhere, and the Galactic Alliance(formerly the New Republic) is reeling from a catastrophe on Coruscant.
I could think of several possible stories one could tell with that cast and setting.
Mario 1, he's tripping on some mushrooms. Mario 2, it's a dream. Mario 3, the game starts with a curtain rising. Conclusion, Mario makes a play based on all his trippy visions. Super Mario World, every area is named after a food, ergo Mario has the munchies.
The Mario rant is one of the funniest things I've seen in a Moviebob video. Bob's not normally funny or self-deprecating, but by God, he's funny when he's self-deprecating.
It was the earnestness of it that got me. It was as if Bob would have preferred to be making a video about Mario than Star Wars.
It was the earnestness of it that got me. It was as if Bob would have preferred to be making a video about Mario than Star Wars.
He already did. It's called Continanity Reloaded, I think.Gizmo1990 said:
OK, time out. LucasArts CONTRIBUTED to the SWEU with lots of great video games (in no particular order: Dark Forces and the Jedi Knight Series, KOTOR, Shadows of the Empire, The Rogue Squadron Trilogy, Republic Commando) and there's no reason to think those will POOF disappear when the new movies arrive.ShadowKatt said:
from topic of starwars to mariobros, in the same pod-cast, reached twice by side tracking... yep, only Bob can deliver this level of side tracking.... GJ!
How come Star Wars didn't make a movie/movies about Jedi Academy? like Harry Potter, but WAY BETTER!~ I don't see why not, and how this isn't going to be a hit... I think they could have done it for TV too.... oh well... it's ashame... we might never get a Jedi-Academy TV series with spacial episodes where Kyle Katarn shows up as an instructor/master and save the day with his "Gray Jedi" crusade.
How come Star Wars didn't make a movie/movies about Jedi Academy? like Harry Potter, but WAY BETTER!~ I don't see why not, and how this isn't going to be a hit... I think they could have done it for TV too.... oh well... it's ashame... we might never get a Jedi-Academy TV series with spacial episodes where Kyle Katarn shows up as an instructor/master and save the day with his "Gray Jedi" crusade.
Another fun episode from Bob, slightly schizophrenic but it made me laugh so here we are...
But as for the Extended Universe... I don't agree, Making another star wars movie is a large risky proposition and if Disney has the opportunity to draw upon a partial script and story line that has already achieved some level of appeal and acceptance (EI: it has demonstrably worked) then I think it makes economic sense for them to do so especially since existing EU efforts like the rogue squadron games have already demonstrated success.
But as for the Extended Universe... I don't agree, Making another star wars movie is a large risky proposition and if Disney has the opportunity to draw upon a partial script and story line that has already achieved some level of appeal and acceptance (EI: it has demonstrably worked) then I think it makes economic sense for them to do so especially since existing EU efforts like the rogue squadron games have already demonstrated success.
They're not ignoring it. Nothing has changed in the Bat family and Corps other than Sinestro being a Green Lantern again.Crimson_Dragoon said:
Meanwhile....************minor spoilers********
Wonder Woman's origin has changed to make sense and she might be stronger than Superman now thanks to her god powers.
Superman no longer works for the Planet and is no longer obsessed with Lois Lane and is no longer a boy scout
Supergirl doesn't seem to give a damn about the people on a planet she just got to...and it works.
Superboy is less Superman-like and slightly less awful than before.
Justice League replaced Martian Manhunter with Cyborg and it's better off for it.
JLA has a new cast
Red Lanterns can now think and speak properly.
Hawkman's armor is reactive now and awakens when he calls it...which is awesome.
Aquaman is badass and retained some of what made him awesome in Flashpoint
The JSA are no longer overshadowed by the JL, as Bman,Superman,and WW are all dead on Earth 2.
The Huntress of Earth 2 is now the only Huntress.
Powergirl has a new suit and it's terrible...just like her character now.
Some of the Teen Titans have changed. Wonder Girl is no longer a WW clone and has a better back story.
So, there's a good bit of change in the New 52, but I do find it odd that Batman and GL seem to live in a bubble, where they're the only ones that remember Blackest Night and the events surrounding it.
As for Bob's opinion of Dc's continuity, I'd rather have a semi-fresh start than whatever Marvel is doing with Marvel Now. I'm reading about 12 books in Marvel right now and I'm pretty disappointed they didn't do a reboot instead of resetting numbers or changing titles from Incredible to Indestructible...or Amazing to Superior (awful comic btw. This whole Doc OC is Spiderman by way of magic was nice for an issue but now.../facepalm)
I second that motion. Personally I didn't think there was much of a continuity so it would be interesting to watch Bob look at the issue.Desert Punk said:
You want to talk about continuity try sentai continuity. Up until Gokaiger the rule was every super sentai was in it's own seperate universe except for the versus(crossover) movies. The only series to admit the exsistance of another team was Timeranger. Now that gokaiger makes them share the same world serveral of them contradict others. For example take the dinosaur themed sentai, Zyuranger said that it was Witch Bandora(Rita) that killed the dinosaurs, but then Abaranger says that the asteroid only killed some of the dinosaurs while it also sent the rest to a another dimension that the impact created, but then the new series kyoryuger says they were killed when a monster-of-the-week caused a global ice age...
Anyone have an advil?
Anyone have an advil?
Did bob seriously just say that 50+ years of continuity makes it less intimidating to get into comics?
Because while I do read the damn things the idea of getting into current mainstream comics terrifies me . I can only read relatively new stuff like northlanders or series that have already ended like preacher or scott pilgrim . everything else seems like work . DC?s reboot actually got me to try a few of the new books but even then I was going ? who is this again?? like every 3 seconds .
(New swamp thing is nice though )
Because while I do read the damn things the idea of getting into current mainstream comics terrifies me . I can only read relatively new stuff like northlanders or series that have already ended like preacher or scott pilgrim . everything else seems like work . DC?s reboot actually got me to try a few of the new books but even then I was going ? who is this again?? like every 3 seconds .
(New swamp thing is nice though )
I'd like it if they filtered books and kept some of the really good stuff mainly stackpole and zhans stuff or at least a few nods, but ditched basicly everything els.
I mean Timothy zhan gave us corosaunt not Lucas, and stackpoles rouge squadron stuff wouldn't interfere with anything.
I mean Timothy zhan gave us corosaunt not Lucas, and stackpoles rouge squadron stuff wouldn't interfere with anything.