The Big Picture: Marvel Mess

MovieBob

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Marvel Mess

Follow Bob down the convoluted memory lane that is comic books.

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Kuomon

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Who imposes the 5 minute limit? Is it the escapist or did Bob simply decide that was the only runtime that would work?
 

andersgeek

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Well, that was a weak episode... if for the only reason that I've read about that story over the weekend.
Granted, it is a convoluted mess, I'm just gonna say it: Bob, you wasted time by saying it's convoluted. :p Could've just done a 7- to 8-minutes video and be done with it. That being said, next week's episode is gonna be interesting.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Yeah what does Marvelman who I've never heard off have to do with Angela who I've never heard of?
 

mrblakemiller

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Wow, that was thin. You shoulda just done a quick bio of Marvelman, touching on some of the groundbreaking stuff in his history (his wife giving birth and the comic showing it, losing his memory of the magic word that transforms him, the most gruesome rampage in all comics, stuff like that). Then, when we're all up to speed, do you talk about how McFarlane kinda screwed Gaiman out of the rights to Angela and Gaiman wrote 1602 for Marvel just to pay for the legal fees, and I think at one point they tried to trade McFarlane's Marvelman rights with some rights Gaiman owned, and Marvel Comics has said they have the rights for years now but they haven't done anything with it and dang this all would take a bunch of episodes, wouldn't it?
 

Shinsei-J

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And now we wait...
Damn it Bob, why do you have to be so intriguing.
 

Daaaah Whoosh

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Watching all these videos about comics make me realize two things: One, that comics are awesome. And two, that I will never read any of them. I mean seriously, if all this stuff is so inter-connected, it would take years to sort it all out. I read Watchmen and V for Vendetta because I was told they were awesome and because they were self-contained, but I don't see how I could delve any deeper into the medium without drowning in it.
 

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1:02 Only to make a comeback years later with Titles like Chew, Gladstone?s School for World Conquerers,27,Danger Club,(a story that actually uses the made up Golden Age histories of the heroes, villains, and sidekicks every now and again),Think Tank, the list goes on. 1:20 UGH. I avoid Event comics for a reason. I don?t follow the mainstream books, and while I?ll admit there are good event comics out there, I avoid them partly because of what Civil War did to the Runaways. Yeah?.I kind of hate the Civil War event comic. I liked how Ultimate Alliance 2 did it better. 2:08 You almost had me there too. So instead of the Awesomeness of having Spawn in the Marvel universe, drawing me in, knowing the few things I do about him via Death Battle,we get a minor character that isn?t even on the level of Anderson from Hellsing cool. Are you starting to lose it,Gaiman?
 

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Surely the reasons are fairly obvious? (The following is conjecture. Never heard of half these characters, as I am 2000AD guy, not a Marvel/DC one)

Gaiman wants to redo/reintroduce Miracle Man, and the only way Todd McFarlan would agree to sell the rights would be if Angela made a comeback in mainstream comics. Or is that too simple?
 

MovieBob

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aww. i thought the litigation stuff would be interesting :( you even pumped it up for Marvel man for a second :'(.
 

Basement Cat

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This brings back memories. I remember having a subscription to X-Men when I was a kid AND buying an extra copy from lunch money to save. I was a kid--what did I know about girls much less investment planning?

Angela! The most blatant example of Spawn's creator McFarlane's pandering to the hormones of teenage boys at a time when the internet didn't exist so access to "hot pictures" in comics we on par with Playboy for most boys.

The sad thing about Angela is that she was actually more interesting than the consummately predictable Spawn.

Poor Angela...
 

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Deathlyphil said:
Surely the reasons are fairly obvious? (The following is conjecture. Never heard of half these characters, as I am 2000AD guy, not a Marvel/DC one)

Gaiman wants to redo/reintroduce Miracle Man, and the only way Todd McFarlan would agree to sell the rights would be if Angela made a comeback in mainstream comics. Or is that too simple?
The key word you are missing is litigation. There is a fight no one is agreeing about all this.

OT: I hate too say it bob but i'm 23 and if it wasn't for Todd Mcfarlane I would have never gotten into comic books. The spawn books where some of the first books I ever read, as my dad was part of the bubble, he still has some very valuable comics. I recognize spawn as the crap it always was, but I also understand that without spawn I would not read comics, just like without the Power Rangers video game for the sega genesis I would not play videogames.

Off topic I never realized how cute todd mcfarlane used too be, now he looks like skeleton spent too much time in the tanning booth.
 

MDSnowman

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For a minute there I was proud that I actually remembered Angela... and then gawked at my screen thinking "Why the hell would any comic universe want her."
 

Marik2

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Angela reminds me of Witchblade and been thinking of reading that comic book series, but it just seems silly and the anime is the only thing I enjoyed