The Big Picture: Wunderpants - Wonder Woman's New Clothes

[Spaceman Spiff]

I like the pants and jacket look. It seems silly to enter combat in a swimming suit, and Wonder Woman's jacket isn't nearly as baggy and silly looking as the two examples Bob included. Ideally I'd like to see WW wearing amazon-inspired body armor that covers most of her skin, no bare shoulders or thighs.

 

[Banzaiman]

I'm with Bob in that the pants don't make that big of a difference. I can see both sides to the argument and the larger argument around that, but it really doesn't matter whether she's got that one-piece or a bustier and some trousers. The character herself is sort of beyond that, though there is something to be said if it's to preserve the desired modesty of the actress.

As for whether the movie's going to be good or not, I think the title is pretty telling. Someone's not thinking things through over there, and chances are it's going to show in the finished product.


EDIT: If anything, I'd go with pants just because of practicality. Lot easier to design a pair of those than design WW's original costume for a human body so that it doesn't quite fail.

 

[SeeDarkly_Xero]

"SUBMIT!"
and
"Jacket!"

Suddenly I understand what that Blink 182 album title was trying to tell us: "Stop dressing Wonder Woman badly."

 

[jdarksun]

Because I don't know, what are all those animated clips from? They look really, really good.

They are from.

Wonder Women
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(2009_film)

Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League:_Crisis_on_Two_Earths

Superman/Batman: Apocalypse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman/Batman:_Apocalypse

There you go.

Just came in here to ask this - awesome, thanks!

 

[V4Viewtiful]

And before someone could consider me a Hypocrite for my Favorite Female DC Character being The Cheetah from the animated series Justice League (Unlimited).... You know because She's nude minus nipples & vagina....

Ya know I always hated that (liked everything else )
Even the stupid DC reboot has her naked out some damn close on her! But you know what's strange(er)? In some solicits and covers her fury exterior appears to be a costume in and of itself (it has the same stupid seems that they seem to like) ad in the beginning it was

 

[HjelsYells]

I like pants. And jacket.

 

[V4Viewtiful]

I like the pants and jacket look. It seems silly to enter combat in a swimming suit, and Wonder Woman's jacket isn't nearly as baggy and silly looking as the two examples Bob included. Ideally I'd like to see WW wearing amazon-inspired body armor that covers most of her skin, no bare shoulders or thighs.

doesn't greek/roman armour typically have the biceps and knees exposed anyway? That would be fine.

 

[Xman490]

The good thing about there being a subtitle for the Batman v Superman movie is that, if it ends up being a disappointment, we can just call it "Dawn of Justice". It's like just calling that game with Banjo, Kazooie, and car/boat/plane/helicopter building "Nuts & Bolts".

There's another factor of this debate to consider: clothing comfort. When I read the topic of this video, I immediately thought of the new Super Smash Bros bit of controversy around Samus wearing combat high-heel shoes. However useful they may be, between Samus knocking teeth out or Wonder Woman... swimming better or something, these clothing choices do not seem ergonomic. Running in high heels or skin-tight pants would be uncomfortable and thus debilitating in reality.

 

[btbushi]

doesn't greek/roman armour typically have the biceps and knees exposed anyway? That would be fine.

Depends on the level of armor. I believe it was not uncommon for hoplites to wear leather bands over their arms or to have leather strips hanging from their breastplate to cover the biceps and greaves often include a protrusion to cover the kneecap. It's not an awful lot but it did happen. I believe the same thing would also apply to classic legionnaire's armor (though what auxiliaries would wear is completely unpredictable).

 

[tzimize]

The Jacket was/is Stupid.

I prefer the war skirt TBH.

I'm with this guy!

Also, god I hope they get Wonder Woman right....it would be so great to have a strong female character who is more than a pair of walking boobs.

Black Widow was AWESOME. Not just because Scarlett J. is the most beautiful woman in the world, but also because Black Widow used her sexuality as well as her guns. Simply as a weapon. Brilliant.

I hope Wonder Woman can be something as well. Not necessarily Black Widow, but a real character....PLEASE dont screw it up :|

 

[Zombie Badger]

While the idea of seeing all of DC's big names on the big screen has it's appeal, I long ago resigned myself to the idea that (in Bob's own words) Warner Bros is just bad at making superhero movies that aren't entirely about Batman.

Batman was Nolan's baby, not Warner's.

In my opinion whether Wondie is wearing trousers or not is utterly irrelevant. Whether she's a feminist icon or wanking material depends entirely on how they frame her as a character. Mystique in Days of Future Past was a female character I could take seriously and root for and she walked around stark bullock naked for much of it; Secretary is about Maggie Gyllenhaal pursuing a life of being tied up and spanked by James Spader but it's framed as her pursuing her dreams in the face of opposition and (ironically) taking control of her life and it works as fun female empowerment piece.

The real question here is do you trust Snyder to portray Wondie well? Because after Sucker Punch I'm not optimistic.

 

[Darth_Payn]

All this talk of the jacket got me thinking this should calm everybody down:
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I'll be back when I have something more intelligent and relevant to the "Wonder Woman costume and sexual implications thereof" issue, because right now, nothing really comes to mind yet.

EDIT: Oh, for fuck's sake, why did the YouTube video for "Jacket" not get embedded?!

 

[ExtraDebit]

Meh, the traditional costume of wonder woman is just impractical and stupid. She doesn't look like a superhero, she looks like a stripper. It's about time they give her some clothes, Love the jacket and love the pants.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

doesn't greek/roman armour typically have the biceps and knees exposed anyway? That would be fine.

I agree, a bit of bicep/elbow and knee wouldn't be bad.

As she's usually depicted, totally exposed from the neck to the forearm and from the crotch to the shin is just silly, even she is largely invulnerable (I don't know the full extent of her powers). I don't know how she doesn't pop out of her top when running/fighting/whatever.

A quick google turned this up:

Spoiler

I quite like the third one, as a starting point at least. Maybe go with boots instead of sandals.

 

[Dandres]

I do not care how they dress her. I just wish Joss Whedon was directing her movie. I all ready have bet going that even though there is all this hype about WW, she will only get a cameo in the BvS DJ movie maybe a few lines.

 

[Scorpid]

Not at all being a comic book guy, I'll be honest I think Wonder Womans outfits look great. Why can't she have more than one, cold days are her jacket and tights days and hot being her short shorts. Also those scenes from a animated movie/show look great too. Why is DC and WB so desperate to make a live action movie? Does a movie having a bloated budget and with live grossly overpayed actors add some sort of legitimacy more than a animated movie?

 

[Shjade]

I actually liked the stupid jacket. >.>

I like a good jacket, myself, but on Wonder Woman specifically, ehh. As Bob was saying about the pants, adding the jacket kinda makes her have a less unique at-a-glance look. I mean, casual street jacket is Black Canary's thing. Is Diana taking fashion advice from her now? Or did she just decide she wanted more loose material around for bad guys to grab onto?

Just doesn't work for me. I don't see a reason for it to be there. *shrug*

 

[RandV80]

Kind of funny that Bob uses a picture of Slayers for his cartoon/anime example. A lot of irony here, because the character 'Naga' first appeared in 1995, and was definately not intended as sexy fanservice. She was intentionally over the top, annoying, and had whats best described as 'gag boobs'. She was basically a comic sidekick designed to annoy Lina, the lead character. Yet I'm not sure exactly when this happened, but I say it's ironic because fast forward to todays anime/manga and somehow Naga's 'gag boobs' became the de facto standard for sexy fanservice. How the hell did that happen?

 

[Seracen]

I liked thejacket as well. I liked that whole costume.

Agreed. The pants actually look kind of lame without the jacket, in my eyes.

I always preferred the skirt, like the style her "Evil" version wore in Injustice (Roman legionnaire style skirt). This works even more so in live action. As much as people like for heroes to look like they do in comics, some things work, some things don't.

I just can't see a one-piece bikini look as working in any sort of dramatic and serious context in live action. I think Linda Carter's WW would have looked better with a skirt in addition to her onsie. I also think that Adrianne Palicki's WW would have benefited from a jacket to match her pants.

Additionally, it would have helped to add an illusion of bulk, as WW isn't supposed to be a damn stick figure.

 

[bladeofdarkness]

extremely minor point : its pronounced ga-dot, not gado.