The Democratic Primary is Upon Us! - Biden is the Presumptive Nominee

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Dreiko said:
Why are they even doing coin tosses? This is something important so they at least should play a game of similar gravitas like a game of magic the gathering between the candidates, right? I mean, if it's chance it feels cheap, at least it should have a measure of skill involved, right? Are they afraid Bernie stopped playing magic back in 95 and has a deck full of moxes and lotuses or what?
Bernie has an oldschool Slivers deck.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
Bernie has an oldschool Slivers deck.
Considering the immune system-like response to Bernie on the part of the DNC and media, I'd proffer he's playing affinity. Taking into account the net result of the immune system-like response was a neck-and-neck loss which the DNC and media are pretending is a win for Pete, Necropotence.

I mean, if you don't want to assume 100% malfeasance on the DNC's part (but all things considered, if you aren't you need to take a good, hard look at what's going on), you could stretch it and say he's playing clockwork.
 

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Bernie Sanders is the guy who wants to play Magic the same way he did in 1996, but all his friends are playing commander, so the only deck he plays is stax because he thinks that if he makes everyone else as miserable as he is they'll give up and play the format he wants.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
Dreiko said:
Why are they even doing coin tosses? This is something important so they at least should play a game of similar gravitas like a game of magic the gathering between the candidates, right? I mean, if it's chance it feels cheap, at least it should have a measure of skill involved, right? Are they afraid Bernie stopped playing magic back in 95 and has a deck full of moxes and lotuses or what?
Bernie has an oldschool Slivers deck.
Is Trump using a Psycatog. He just keeps eating his own cards, even dead ones?

Edit; No wait. He's playing Illusion of Granduer and doesn't realise the cumlative upkeep is stupidly high

Edit 2: Hillary is Rhystic Study? Does little but gains a lot

I'm having too much fun with this
 

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trunkage said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Dreiko said:
Why are they even doing coin tosses? This is something important so they at least should play a game of similar gravitas like a game of magic the gathering between the candidates, right? I mean, if it's chance it feels cheap, at least it should have a measure of skill involved, right? Are they afraid Bernie stopped playing magic back in 95 and has a deck full of moxes and lotuses or what?
Bernie has an oldschool Slivers deck.
Is Trump using a Psycatog. He just keeps eating his own cards, even dead ones?

Edit; No wait. He's playing Illusion of Granduer and doesn't realise the cumlative upkeep is stupidly high

Edit 2: Hillary is Rhystic Study? Does little but gains a lot

I'm having too much fun with this
The DNC as a whole pushes mono-blue control. They don't want other people playing and win or lose, nobody has fun.
 

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trunkage said:
Is Trump using a Psycatog. He just keeps eating his own cards, even dead ones?
Lhurgoyf in a squirrel deck without Biorhythm.

Hillary?

Control mill or suicide black, no question.
 

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Eacaraxe said:
trunkage said:
Is Trump using a Psycatog. He just keeps eating his own cards, even dead ones?
Lhurgoyf in a squirrel deck without Biorhythm.

Hillary?

Control mill or suicide black, no question.
Well, I was going to suggest Yawgmoth's Will for Trump but it probably suits Hillary. Trump is more about sacking others. Hillary more about damaging herself
 

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Seanchaidh said:
Doesn't seem like a good look for the Buttigieg campaign especially given that it already has huge problems with race.
Indeed his campaign may well have problems with race: he is a homosexual.
 

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Agema said:
Seanchaidh said:
Doesn't seem like a good look for the Buttigieg campaign especially given that it already has huge problems with race.
Indeed his campaign may well have problems with race: he is a homosexual.
Implying?
Ya gonna hafta spell it out for us slow folks.

I thought it was the time he bulldozed a bunch of people's homes that might be the issue.

His program to knock down hundreds of homes in black and Latino neighborhoods...
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/henrygomez/mayor-pete-buttigieg-south-bend-gentrification
 

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Kwak said:
Implying?
Ya gonna hafta spell it out for us slow folks.
It would not be that controversial to note homophobia tends to be greater in several non-white demographic groups (usually associated with perceptions of traditional gender roles and religion.)

Although to be honest, I suspect his low rating with them is mostly that he's just got no significant political history to inspire their trust, nor has he made much of a play for their votes. I don't think many voters would outright refuse to support a candidate just because of things like race, gender or sexual orientation.

However, I think voters like to vote for people they perceive are "their sort of person", or feel they trust. Disapproval of an aspect of a candidate makes harder for that candidate to build a rapport with them. Not dissimilar perhaps to women candidates. I think some people really do hold assumptions of leaders being men, even if just a sort of comforting sense of normality, and thus there's always that little bit of credibility deficit floating around their minds which bias them slightly against.
 

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Agema said:
Although to be honest, I suspect his low rating with them is mostly that he's just got no significant political history to inspire their trust, nor has he made much of a play for their votes.
What history he does have is kind of bad [https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pete-buttigieg-faces-pressure-marijuana-arrests-black-people/story?id=68842579].
 

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Seanchaidh said:
Agema said:
Although to be honest, I suspect his low rating with them is mostly that he's just got no significant political history to inspire their trust, nor has he made much of a play for their votes.
What history he does have is kind of bad [https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pete-buttigieg-faces-pressure-marijuana-arrests-black-people/story?id=68842579].
Yikes...
PETE BUTTIGIEG STOOD BY POLICE OFFICER WHO MOCKED AND PROFITED FROM ERIC GARNER?S FINAL PLEA OF ?I CAN?T BREATHE?
(story in article)
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/19/pete-buttigieg-south-bend-i-cant-breathe-shirts/
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He?s also come under scrutiny for his firing of South Bend?s first black police chief after it was revealed that he had improperly taped senior white officers making racist statements about him and other black officers. Buttigieg has since admitted that firing the police chief, Darryl Boykins, was a mistake, but he?s thus far refused to release the tapes. And while Boykins was fired, the white officers who were on the tapes faced no disciplinary action.
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In his 2015 ?State of the City? address, even as Buttigieg attempted to assuage concerns about the race-related controversies plaguing his administration, he used the phrase ?all lives matter,? widely understood as a rebuke of the Black Lives Matter movement.
 

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Kwak said:
Seanchaidh said:
Agema said:
Although to be honest, I suspect his low rating with them is mostly that he's just got no significant political history to inspire their trust, nor has he made much of a play for their votes.
What history he does have is kind of bad [https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pete-buttigieg-faces-pressure-marijuana-arrests-black-people/story?id=68842579].
Yikes...
PETE BUTTIGIEG STOOD BY POLICE OFFICER WHO MOCKED AND PROFITED FROM ERIC GARNER?S FINAL PLEA OF ?I CAN?T BREATHE?
(story in article)
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/19/pete-buttigieg-south-bend-i-cant-breathe-shirts/
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He?s also come under scrutiny for his firing of South Bend?s first black police chief after it was revealed that he had improperly taped senior white officers making racist statements about him and other black officers. Buttigieg has since admitted that firing the police chief, Darryl Boykins, was a mistake, but he?s thus far refused to release the tapes. And while Boykins was fired, the white officers who were on the tapes faced no disciplinary action.
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In his 2015 ?State of the City? address, even as Buttigieg attempted to assuage concerns about the race-related controversies plaguing his administration, he used the phrase ?all lives matter,? widely understood as a rebuke of the Black Lives Matter movement.
I seem to remember that canceling is the literal worst thing anyone can do. Thus Pete standing near those officers was the right thing to do
 

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Yo, hold up.

[tweet t="https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1226193905546416128"]


 

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This is never gonna happen cause it'd apply to female students, it might have if it was just the male ones. Still ridiculous though.
 

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Hey, sidenote, since we are talking about cancelling.

Why does the libs get blamed for cancelling when that's how Trump treats his former allies? Eg. Bolton, Manafort, etc. Is this another case of libs not catching on, like Politically Correct, a well worn tool of the Republican party?
 

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Hey, sidenote, since we are talking about cancelling.

Why does the libs get blamed for cancelling when that's how Trump treats his former allies? Eg. Bolton, Manafort, etc. Is this another case of libs not catching on, like Politically Correct, a well worn tool of the Republican party?

Did Trump ban these people from youtube/twitter/patreon or something? Did he cancel their book deals? I thought he just badmouthed them.
 

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Apparently the Iowa results are still riddled with errors:

[tweet t="https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1226324106343337985"]
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
Yo, hold up.

[tweet t="https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1226193905546416128"]


I'd take that with a grain of salt. Your post inspired me to verify for myself, and contrary to the tweet, not only can you get to the page without signing up for a mailing list, but the context of the whole of the page changes the reading of the quoted section considerably. Bereft of context, the quoted segment reads like it's calling for military service (and indeed, that's exactly what the tweeter claims), but the page actually uses "service" in very general terms. While it doesn't preclude military service, the page's focus is more on community service than anything else.

"A New Call to Service" opens a pathway for young people to meaningfully engage in their communities and in communities around the world, and focuses on key challenges of our time: resilience and sustainability against climate disruption; addiction, mental health, and substance use; and long-term caregiving and intergenerational mentorship.
It further goes on to point out as one of the problems this is trying to address is that there AmeriCorps and the PeaceCorps are forced to take on only a fraction of the qualified volunteers that apply due to funding issues, and suggests the creation of 'service corps' focusing on community health, intergenerational caregiving, and fighting climate disruption.
 

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Dreiko said:
trunkage said:
Hey, sidenote, since we are talking about cancelling.

Why does the libs get blamed for cancelling when that's how Trump treats his former allies? Eg. Bolton, Manafort, etc. Is this another case of libs not catching on, like Politically Correct, a well worn tool of the Republican party?

Did Trump ban these people from youtube/twitter/patreon or something? Did he cancel their book deals? I thought he just badmouthed them.
Ah, so you're saying cancel culture doesnt exist. That only those platforms you listed are cancelling